Dr. Steven M. Greer

[joaq]

Thought I would start a discussion on Dr. Greer. His book Hidden Truth - Forbidden Knowledge is excellent! Has anyone read this yet? He presents some amazing information regarding Et's, the government/ cooperate cover-ups, spirituality and meditation.

Peace and Love,
Joaq.

[stefaan]

I haven't read it yet, but I have seen the 2h video of The Disclosure Project. This was an important event, with more journalists and reporters together than ever. The publicity generated came to a stop with 9-11. Otherwise Larry King & C° would have started earlier with their UFO programs. Now we or 7 years behind you could say. Nevertheless, better late than never? Before, people laughed at you when you talked about UFO's, now it's changing.

What is the most important revelation you found in his book?

[Free-UFO-Videos]

Thanks for starting this thread.

That book is amazing. I haven't read it, but I've studied many reviews and other discussions about it. And I have listened to Dr Steven M. Greer on many radio stations since 2001, telling a lot of the information that is in the book.

I saw the National Press conference live in 2001.

And was studying and supporting CSETI before they got The Disclosure Project going.

It's all been awesome.

But many people on Earth would rather take the blue pill.
(blissful ignorance)

It's a shame they don't know how important it all is.
They might find out in future in the spirit realm,
and kick themselves for not caring more.
(or just be in bliss)

Anyway, it is just great to meet so many good folks here in this Project Avalon forum. keep up the good work!



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[joaq]

Originally Posted by Free-UFO-Videos

Thanks for starting this thread.

That book is amazing. I haven't read it, but I've studied many reviews and other discussions about it. And I have listened to Dr Steven M. Greer on many radio stations since 2001, telling a lot of the information that is in the book.

I saw the National Press conference live in 2001.

And was studying and supporting CSETI before they got The Disclosure Project going.

It's all been awesome.

But many people on Earth would rather take the blue pill.
(blissful ignorance)

It's a shame they don't know how important it all is.
They might find out in future in the spirit realm,
and kick themselves for not caring more.
(or just be in bliss)

Anyway, it is just great to meet so many good folks here in this Project Avalon forum. keep up the good work!



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Wow! I discovered Dr. Greer about 1 1/2 years ago. Totally enjoy hearing him talk. Have you gone to any of his trainings?
peace and Love, joaq.

[joaq]

Originally Posted by stefaan

I haven't read it yet, but I have seen the 2h video of The Disclosure Project. This was an important event, with more journalists and reporters together than ever. The publicity generated came to a stop with 9-11. Otherwise Larry King & C° would have started earlier with their UFO programs. Now we or 7 years behind you could say. Nevertheless, better late than never? Before, people laughed at you when you talked about UFO's, now it's changing.

What is the most important revelation you found in his book?

For me, without a doubt, was the spiritual and meditation information. Attitude about this stuff is changing, just wish it would accelerate.

Peace and Love, Joaq.

[stefaan]

"...spiritual and meditation information..."

This is a surprise to me. I tought Dr. Steven M. Greer was a cool, rational scientist. My mistake.

[joaq]

Originally Posted by stefaan

"...spiritual and meditation information..."

This is a surprise to me. I tought Dr. Steven M. Greer was a cool, rational scientist. My mistake.

He is very cool and very rational. Obviously, I recommend reading his book. Check it out, tell me what you think about it. I assure you, you will not be wasting your time. We can compare notes.

Peace and Love,
Joaq.

[corvo]

Originally Posted by Contactee77

I've met Greer and attended 2 of his lectures.

Everything he says concerning the method of making contact through coherent thought sequencing and vectoring is true, real and accurate.




It works, believe me, I know.

can you elaborate please?
Are you stating you was able to contact ET using this methods?

[joaq]

Originally Posted by Contactee77

I've met Greer and attended 2 of his lectures.

Everything he says concerning the method of making contact through coherent thought sequencing and vectoring is true, real and accurate.




It works, believe me, I know.

Fantastic! I would love to hear more. What was you experience like?

Peace and Love,
joaq.

[atama]

Originally Posted by Contactee77

I've met Greer and attended 2 of his lectures.

Everything he says concerning the method of making contact through coherent thought sequencing and vectoring is true, real and accurate.




It works, believe me, I know.

what do you know, exactly? have you seen a ufo? have you met an ET ?
I'm all for the disclosure project but Greer has produced nothing.
he charges for his information. set up a video camera or something, i'd love to see it. something. show me the zero point power plant. anything!

and the whole 'i have a g7 nation backing me' sounds like BS to me. i don't trust doctors.

[Free-UFO-Videos]

Originally Posted by atama

sounds like BS to me.

i don't trust doctors.

atama = head in the Japanese language.

Your head needs more research and study before saying the word "BS".

I studied Dr Steven Greer for over 10 years.

Have you seen the testimony from Dan Akroyd talking about Dr Steven Greer? ...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R3kAuNSI31w


Have you watched the four hour witness testimony DVD?


Have you listened to all the Art Bell and Dr Greer MP3s ?

One example ...

http://www.disclosureproject.org/Tra...ugust82004.htm


Have you read the August 2004 issue of the World Affairs Journal?


I can sit here all day and night giving you more links and information if you want!


Love and Light and Internet Broadband and an Educated Head!




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[stefaan]

I hope you don't mind writing this, it 's not meant to offend.
That famous singularity... I don't buy it.
The one who invented this idea, surely has sold a lot of books. Good for him/her.

If you've seen this video thread, then maybe you have a more down to earth way to look at things.
As I understand it:
- the right half of your brain is the part that is connected, via all kinds of sensory input, to the outside world; maybe you could say, to all that exists.
- the left half of your brain is the part where the ego is formed, that what separates you from the outside world

For instance with meditation you can try to silence that left part. So you can get in a state this lady in the video was, after she'd had a stroke. You become a person with no boundaries, in contact with the whole existance, cosmos... Maybe then, you also can make contact with ETs ?

[Carol]

From recent research we now know that the mind is non-local and not located within the brain. This was scientifically proven by experiments with animals.

Singularity... this goes more along with the experience and explanation regarding quantum physics. If one is indeed an interdimensional being capable of existing beyond the human experience, capable of OBE, capable of gathering info from the past a future, then thinking of oneself as just a physical being is limiting.

How do you explain experiencing 'conscious awareness' outside of one's own physical body at another locality, remote viewing, NDE? Is this not also a reality for others who have had these experiences?

[atama]

Originally Posted by Free-UFO-Videos

atama = head in the Japanese language.

Your head needs more research and study before saying the word "BS".

I studied Dr Steven Greer for over 10 years.

Have you seen the testimony from Dan Akroyd talking about Dr Steven Greer? ...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R3kAuNSI31w


Have you watched the four hour witness testimony DVD?


Have you listened to all the Art Bell and Dr Greer MP3s ?

One example ...

http://www.disclosureproject.org/Tra...ugust82004.htm


Have you read the August 2004 issue of the World Affairs Journal?


I can sit here all day and night giving you more links and information if you want!


Love and Light and Internet Broadband and an Educated Head!




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yeh ive read, seen, heard all that before.
Dan Ackroyd i saw in Ghostbusters.
Disclosure Project is very interesting. Greer wasn't a witness.(tho he did do a great job organizing it)

Greer claims he can call down a UFO at a place and time of HIS choosing. WOW. then he makes people sign an anti-disclosure agreement. c'mon, are you not seeing the irony ?

can i see even the slightest bit of evidence before you suggest that i am uneducated on this topic?

I take back the BS, i don't think he's a complete liar. i just think he has made more than a couple of totally bogus claims he can't back up.

if anything ever comes of Steven Greer's announcements, then I'll happily be wrong.

hi,i'm from germany, so sorry for my english ok ...

I just saw this thread about Steven Greer and I thought i should post my thoughts here. I've read "Extraterrestrial Contact - The evidence and implications" and I'm not sure about this guy's credibility.

I found this : http://www.ufowatchdog.com/greer.html

Reportedly plagiarizes the UFO work of others and sells as his own, sells do-it-yourself ET contact kits - now you too can steer in extraterrestrial spacecraft with a flashlight and never record them just like Doc Greer does. Made claims of contacting extraterrestrials through meditation. Claimed that U.S. military forces attacked a Colorado ET base inside a mountain using nerve gas, no evidence to back claim. Had dinner with CIA Director and spun tale of having briefed CIA Director about ETs for hours. Hosted press conference with credible UFO witnesses on Capitol Hill - ruined it and his own credibility by selling the work of others with his name on it and using bogus witnesses. Allegeldy attempted to charge Washington State MUFON members $2500.00 each to demonstrate how he can vector in UFOs - Greer got to choose the location and the time... (http://www.ufowatchdog.com/hall3.html).....sorry,but greer makes good money with his project and stuff...and some people think this 2001 press conferece took place to detract people from 911...

tell me what you think

[Destiny]

Originally Posted by johnny

hi,i'm from germany, so sorry for my english ok ...

I just saw this thread about Steven Greer and I thought i should post my thoughts here. I've read "Extraterrestrial Contact - The evidence and implications" and I'm not sure about this guy's credibility.

I found this : http://www.ufowatchdog.com/greer.html

Reportedly plagiarizes the UFO work of others and sells as his own, sells do-it-yourself ET contact kits - now you too can steer in extraterrestrial spacecraft with a flashlight and never record them just like Doc Greer does. Made claims of contacting extraterrestrials through meditation. Claimed that U.S. military forces attacked a Colorado ET base inside a mountain using nerve gas, no evidence to back claim. Had dinner with CIA Director and spun tale of having briefed CIA Director about ETs for hours. Hosted press conference with credible UFO witnesses on Capitol Hill - ruined it and his own credibility by selling the work of others with his name on it and using bogus witnesses. Allegeldy attempted to charge Washington State MUFON members $2500.00 each to demonstrate how he can vector in UFOs - Greer got to choose the location and the time... (http://www.ufowatchdog.com/hall3.html).....sorry,but greer makes good money with his project and stuff...and some people think this 2001 press conferece took place to detract people from 911...

tell me what you think

2001 press conference did what UFO videos can never do. Videos or Docs can all be faked, like most of those that appear on youtube.

I can't say about others, but for me, I don't need videos/pics from Dr. Greer to prove his claims. His information and work so far speaks for itself.

[goody8504]

debugged, i see your point. but at the same time, we now know that the watcher and his group has mr king's full consent to release that in formation. so what's with the hostility? why are we still debating this? it just seems childish to me. not to mention the idea of posting with BIG BOLD TEXT seems condesending to me, but perhaps i misinterpreted your intentions. small text is just as easy to read as big text. i doubt the watcher is going to skip over the small text and automatically jump to the big text. either way, let's just put this episode behind us and move on with the real information rather than focusing on who was right and who was wrong

[Bayareamom]

I have admired Dr. Greer's efforts and applaud his endeavors as pertains to his books (I have them all). But as much as I've enjoyed listening to him via his DVD's and reading his books, I have to admit I do not adhere to his philosophy.

If memory serves, I do believe Dr. Greer feels MOST all abductions are via MILAB/government means. It is his belief that ALL extraterrestrials are benevolent. I do not hold to this theory -- in part, because of my own experiences.

I have been working with a Ph.D. re: my experiences (she is an experiencer herself and well respected/regarded in this field) -- I have also been working with a Native American vis-a-vis my experiences. I think it fair to say the three of us are on the same page when it comes to how we feel about some of these Beings.

Many are truly Benevolent -- some are definitely not. Some, perhaps most, in my opinion, are somewhere in between.

Just as with the human species, there are varying types of behaviors with these Beings. Just because they may be far more intelligent than we humans, or just because their technologies may far surpass our own, does NOT always make them a Benevolent and/or benign species!

Some, I believe, are truly here to assist us through this transition -- some are here as dividers.

Melinda Leslie is a great researcher -- she has researched MILABS for many years, now (along with Joe Montaldo). She can certainly tell you about some of her experiences with the more malevolent species. She is also well versed as to the 're-abduction scenario,' carried out by factions of our military industrial complex. Melinda and Joe just gave a fascinating interview on Coast-to-Coast re: this subject. Contrary to what Dr. Greer states, Melinda states there must be a reason as to why these MILABS occur.

They are occurring, she states, because there is a need by some in our government to learn more from the abductees as to what these Beings WANT, i.e., what is their agenda, etc. Melinda also feels that perhaps the biggest reason these MILABS occur is because of the fact that many, if not most abductees, seem to have knowledge imparted to them by these Beings as to how these craft operate (it is found to be by telepathic means). In other words, the mind most dedinitely plays a part as to the operations of these craft. There would be absolutely no need for MILABS, if it weren't for the fact that alien abductions ARE DEFINIETLY occurring! Again, totally contrary to what Greer states in his lectures.

I tend to steer away from any researcher who claims to have THE answer to a hugely complex phenomenon -- this is not an 'either' 'or' scenario. To me, it's like peeling away the onion layer -- and the onion layer as it pertains to the abduction scenario goes on and on and on...

This is why I have issues with some of what Greer says. JMHO, though...[/SIZE]

[THEWATCHER]

And this is where Mr King himself will state, that although he worked within a facility that manufactured these PLF's, mainly for MILAB operations and screen memory implantation in abductees. Off planet intelligences do exist in a number of forms including the oft reported small grey. That has never been a contention, that ONLY man made greys exist, simply that Dr Greer had data from several individuals, 2 from the UK, that worked within this field and he steered towards the idea of perhaps PLFs were THE answer to the small grey identity.
At some point all the bickering here will cease and perhaps we can get on with the business of disclosing information relevent to the aims of this site. Mr King is improving healthwise and we hope he will attend here in person, until that time we will continue to monitor and post where necessary.

THE WATCHER

[Bayareamom]

Watcher,

Meaning no disrespect -- just not sure what you meant to say!

I'm not arguing anything -- just stating my opinion...that's allowed, right?

I am an Experiencer -- I most definitely have been visited by other Beings. I have spoken with a number of other Experiencers as well -- some have also experienced the occasional MILAB, too.

I don't know how many Experiencers Dr. Greer has either spoken with, or worked with, but...and this is just my opinion...something just doesn't fit with his scenario. I think I speak for other researchers in the field re: Dr. Greer, too. It isn't that he isn't respected in the ufo community -- he is. But something just doesn't seem right to me re: his 'MOST abductions are MILAB oriented" philosophy.

If you research the ufo abduction phenomena to a greater extent, there is more to this issue than meets the eye. Some of this abduction phenomena can be explained in a scientific fashion -- some of this parallels the religious/spiritual realm. Joe Lewels has written a great book called, "Rulers of the Earth," which documents these Beings as having been around for thousands of years, if not more so.

I just don't buy Dr. Greer's philsophy -- not at all. However, that isn't to say that I don't admire him re: his efforts with the National Press Club/Disclosure Project. I very much admire the fact that he has been able to gather together many whistleblowers re: the ufo subject.

I always try to research both sides of the street, so to speak, when it comes to researchers. There is a fair amount of criticism come Dr. Greer's way -- some of it does have merit.

[Bayareamom]

Here is a link re: 'criticism/feedback' regarding some of Dr. Greer's statements:

LINK: http://www.exopolitics.org/Exo-Comment-44.htm;

AND A SNIP:

..."Also, Greer regularly refers to the Military Abductions (MILABs) phenomenon offered by Dr Helmut Lammer to support his thesis that all alleged abuses attributed to extraterrestrials can be ascribed to MILABs imitating extraterrestrials or to individuals projecting psychological traumas onto benign extraterrestrial visitors. This is a distortion of the evidence provided by Dr Lammer who does not exclude the possibility that extraterrestrials are violating human rights during the abduction phenomenon, only that the military is attempting to replicate extraterrestrial methods and violating human rights in the process."

"Furthermore, Greer does not refer to the extensive research of those such as Zecharia Sitchin, Dr Arthur Horn, William Bramley, Jim Marrs, and others who have examined archeological records and argued that humanity has been seeded by extraterrestrial groups who have violently competed among themselves for control of the Earth. Indeed, these sources point to a long historical presence where humanity has been used as an exploitable resource by some extraterrestrial groups whose motivations and activities are certainly questionable when it comes to the question of human rights violations."

"Finally, in addition to dismissing the data on different categories of researchers documenting extraterrestrial violations of human rights in the modern and ancient era, Greer dismisses the testimonies of a great number of alleged contactees describing the nefarious activities of some contemporary extraterrestrial visitors. Contactees such as Howard Menger, Enrique Castillo Rincon, Eduard "Billy" Meier, "Prof Hernandez", Brian Scott, and many others whose testimonies have been documented and investigated by competent researchers."

[Bayareamom]

I will try to post that above Salla link once again:

Here it is: http://www.exopolitics.org/Exo-Comment-44.htm

[THEWATCHER]

Dr Greer whatever your take on him and his 'agenda', what follows gives an idea of the nature of PLFs and MILABs within the UK. Taken from the book by Jon King published in 1998, "Cosmic Top Secret..the unseen agenda"...........

ONE.......
While I was burning up inside with the desire to know
more about this underground laboratory, it was of course
Q's mental and emotional health that demanded priority.
By the time he'd completed several hours' remote viewing
(on several separate, intense occasions) he seemed very
drained, disturbed, less keen to revisit the nightmarish
netherworld simmering beneath Salisbury Plain than at first
he had been. It was clearly time to call a halt.

I was not disappointed. He had, after all, more than satisfied
any expectations I might have had prior to conducting the
experiment. Although he hadn't found any crashed and
recovered alien spacecraft, nor indeed any other substantive
signs of acquired alien technology, he had nonetheless
remotely viewed what appeared to be a deep-underground
facility (complete with `human forms, biological forms or
specimens . . . aliens or hybrids or something engineered'
suspended in `blue liquid' in `glass tanks') at the location
described by the coordinates I'd given him. Curiously, these
coordinates - though random so far as he knew - were in
fact those corresponding to the Imber Ranges on Salisbury
Plain, where the `stationary tanks' and `war games' he had
described at the beginning of our first sitting can be found
on a regular basis. Indeed, of all the military `Danger Zones'
demarcated on Salisbury Plain, the Imber Ranges form the
only area 'permanently closed' to the public.
Of course, this is a long way from conclusive proof, and
unlike the British and US intelligence machine I did not
have the means to confirm this information one way or the
other. There were no Special Forces units at my disposal
to force a way in - no way for me to gain entry, even to the
ranges, much less to the elevator that Q claimed to have
seen operating from inside the `workman's hut, nor even
to the `tunnel' that led him from the ranges to wherever the
laboratory was located.

Food for thought, even so . . .

Two final points.

One: following our last sitting, Q told me that he'd also
sensed the storage of a `significant database' while he'd
been viewing underground. What he meant exactly even
he could not say. But he stressed the fact that he'd had
the strongest sense of some kind of 'significant database'
being stored somewhere in the place he had just viewed.
We joked that it could have been where the government’s
`X Files' were stored.

Two (and far more pertinent): not long after our last sitting
some information came my way that seemed to corroborate
Q's description of an underground laboratory. And of what
he'd seen going on in that laboratory. I had, of course,
already gleaned a fair knowledge of what might be going
on beneath our streets from my own sources. But this next
piece of information served to bolster that knowledge even
further. It is as follows.
Shortly after my sittings with Q I received a letter from
someone claiming he had very sound contacts in both
the intelligence (MI6) and security (M15) services. Indeed,
this person - who must remain anonymous - claimed that
some of his contacts were `longstanding friends'. Without
going into too much irrelevant detail, the reason this person
contacted me, he said, was to offer me `a piece of friendly
advice' concerning an article I had written for UFO Reality
magazine (an article about Salisbury Plain being a likely
site for a British deep-underground military-industrial facility,
curiously enough, and which included impressions from Q's
initial remote viewing of Salisbury Plain). My correspondent
told me in no uncertain terms that, in his opinion, and in the
opinion of some of his MI5/MI6 buddies, I had been led up the
garden path by my sources regarding the deep-underground
facility beneath Rudloe Manor and Salisbury Plain. Though
my information was partly correct, he said (indeed, correct
enough that he had written to me and warned me against
publishing a `genuine national security issue'), it was, in the
main, incorrect.


THE WATCHER

[THEWATCHER]

TWO.......

`You are quite correct in stating that there is a vast ,
underground complex in Wiltshire', he informed me, and
indeed went on to say that this underground complex is `the
largest in the United Kingdom' and that it is `extremely secure'.
However, he added that `Neitherthe Corsham [Rudloe Manor]
complex, nor any other underground Government facility in
the United Kingdom has any connection whatsoever with
UFOs, captured aliens or their craft'. I wrote back and
thanked him for his concern. I also told him that I thought
he was wrong.
Though this information (plus other valuable snippets he
seemed willing to share) was in itself of sincere interest to
me, further information received from the same source in a
subsequent communication fairly claimed my sanity. By this
time I had sat with Q (during remote viewing sessions) on a
number of occasions, and this new information seemed to
correlate too closely with Q's descriptions of an `underground
laboratory' for coincidence to win the day. To add to this, I
had of course already received information from my own
main intelligence source, Stealth, about similar operations
under way at several government facilities, either on or
beneath British soil. Before that, however, and with my
correspondent's express permission, I will relay to you
the same story he relayed to me. Apart from one or
two minor edits (to protect his identity) the story is told
verbatim.

Dear Mr King,

Many thanks for your very interesting letter
. . . I stated in my original letter that . . .
. . . One of my roles . . . is to attend functions
and speak about [ certain ] activities . One such
invitation was arranged by a good friend of mine a
couple of years ago, and involved an after-dinner
speech in a large hotel . . . I cannot remember the
name of the organisation I was addressing, but my
audience seemed to consist of a large number of
retired former professional men, both civilian
and military . . .
When the formalities were over, and we headed
for the bar, my host literally tugged at my sleeve
and led me away from the room. He was a very senior
serving Royal Navy officer ( a Commodore, I think ) ,
and he was extremely nervous and agitated all of a
sudden. What he told me follows.
This man's daughter worked for the Scientific
Civil Service (Department or Branch not speci-
fied), having graduated with flying colours
in Genetics. She had effectively been head-
hunted for the post. He and his wife had become
increasingly concerned over the previous year
or so that said daughter was becoming more and
more introverted and unhappy with her work. Her
(non-service) friends had virtually lost touch
with her and she seemed to be worried about
something but would not open up to her family.
Given the likely security clearance her father
would hold, this in itself suggests the poor girl
was virtually paranoid. Matters had come to a head
the previous Christmas when she had stayed with
her parents, only to find she had woken the whole
house with the most 'blood-curdling screams' my
host had ever heard, and that included his service
in the Falklands War.





THE WATCHER

[THEWATCHER]

THREE...........

Under very close questioning, it eventually
emerged that she had been suffering unspeakable
nightmares for months, solely as a result of her
work. The scenes she described to her father, and
which he relayed to me, subsequently appeared in
an episode of 'The X Files' I happened to see. Large
tanks of strange-coloured liquids with equally
strange alien-type 'beings' suspended in them,
linked to monitors , and other equipment, in a huge
warehouse-type laboratory. The man's daughter,
on medical advice, tendered her resignation but
this was refused on the grounds that she had
been too intimately involved with the project
(whatever it was ) and would be a security risk
if she were to walk out. This was of course quite
unfair, since she would still have been bound by
the Official Secrets Act. She had in fact done her
xxxxedest not to release the information which
was so troubling her.
My host was clearly worried and stated quite
unequivocally that he believed his daughter's
life was now in danger. From whom and for what
reason he did not say. Nor did I ever discover
why he had chosen to impart this information to
me, who, after all, had been engaged through
a mutual friend to offer a lively and amusing
account . . . to a group of professional per-
sons at their annual dinner. The only possible
explanation I can think of is that in the pro-
cess of being introduced to my host, earlier
in the evening, I had mentioned that I worked
at . . .
I listened sympathetically, but could offer
little in the way of constructive advice, since
I hadn't a clue whom to contact or where to start
trying to verify his story. All my usual sources
drew complete blanks. Maybe yours will have more
success, since they seem, from what you say,
to be rather more intimately involved in this
particular area.

Yours sincerely . . .

Having read this letter in full I was grateful and gobsmacked,
both at once - grateful for the information; gobsmacked that
it correlated so precisely, not only with Q's remote viewing
information, but with information I had already received from
my own sources, including my main intelligence contact,
Stealth.

According to Stealth, highly secret genetic and mind-control
programmes are indeed being carried out at British-based
military-industrial facilities, deep underground - facilities so
secret, he says, and information regarding their purpose
so highly classified and tightly compartmentalized that
even the highest-ranking military, intelligence and other
government personnel have little (if any) idea of their
existence, much less of what goes on in them. Stealth
also implied that these experiments were responsible for the
so-called `alien abduction' phenomenon - that he had seen
briefings to the effect that this phenomenon was a govern-
ment propaganda exercise used as a smokescreen behind
which its own black-budget scientists dabbled in genetics,
eugenics, cloning and mind-control. He sIrongly implied that
`human guinea pigs' were being used here, unwittingly, in
particular for research into what he called 'human behaviour
in response to electronic remote influencing', in other words
`implant and mind-control'. Indeed, without actually saying
it he implied that perhaps `Special Forces' military were
abducting people so that military-industrial scientists could
experiment on them, implant them and, while they were under
drug- and/ortechnologically-induced hypnosis, fill their minds
with 'screen memories' of aliens so that when they came to
they would think-assuming they remembered anything at all
-that they had been abducted by aliens rather than soldiers.
He called it `the perfect cover', so crazy
that no one would ever believe it anyway. No one would ever
want to believe it. He said that he did not know the complete
agenda behind the programme, whether or not the aliens were
hands-on involved (or whether they were just being sold as
`the patsies'), and neither did he know the precise locations
of the `several facilities' where these obscenities were taking
place. (Information received from other sources, however,
points to an alleged deep-underground military-industrial
facility in Berkshire - with entrances at Aldermaston and
Greenham Common - as a possible primary site.) Though
he reiterated that he did not know the full extent of the agenda
behind these programmes, Stealth reminded me that one of its
chief aims was to implant certain selected individuals - some
civilian, most former military and intelligence personnel with
known mental/emotional debilities and/or sexual hang-ups -
with the latest mind-control technology. These 'implantees',
he reiterated, are known in intelligence circles as `sleeper
agents'


THE WATCHER