Barak Obama and Nobel

Steve_A · 10-09-2009, 09:52 AM

Hi Everybody,

Barak Obama was awarded the Nobel Peace Prize this morning. I say awarded as in this case I can't say that he won it on merit, but that's another story.

The cut off date for nominations for the award is in the February before the award, two weeks after Obama took office. Go figure.

The principal reason for the giving of the award to Obama was because he outreached to the Muslim world, which is all good and done, however he is still wanting to try and destroy with Israel almost the whole of the Middle East.

I wish I could win an award and the money just for lip service.

Best regards,

Steve

artvision · 10-09-2009, 12:14 PM

"... the Devil will raise up a man with a genius for political imposture, a sinister bewitcher around whom fanatical multitudes will cluster. The ... [world] will hail this man as the Messiah ... After destroying the authority of Christianity, HE WILL UNITE ALL MANKIND ON THE BASIS OF UNIVERSAL PEACE AND BROTHERHOOD, and bestow on it a superabundance of material goods. For these great services, the Gentile nations will accept him, exalt him, and worship him as a god - but in reality, for all his apparent benevolence, he will be Satan's instrument for the perdition of mankind."

Gougenot des Mousseaux,
Le Juif, le judaisme it la judaisation
des peuples chretiens,
Paris, 1869

pineal-pilot-in merkabah · 10-09-2009, 12:46 PM

david wilcock is sounding more and more wrong about this man as each day passes.. also in his great lecture in LA he goes on about even goeorge soros is call ing for a global currencie, obv hes an agent for the queen /roths ..the idea is to implode the dollar and attempt to get a global currencie.. i like david wilcock but i think hes in fantasy land on this one..

there is 99.9% evidence obama is a fraud wilcocks evidence is .1%

Sarahmay · 10-09-2009, 12:52 PM

Sorry, you guys are wrong about Obama, he is a white hat. But the forces against him are astounding, and you are falling into the hands of the illuminati who want to bring him down.

artvision · 10-09-2009, 01:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sarahmay

Sorry, you guys are wrong about Obama, he is a white hat. But the forces against him are astounding, and you are falling into the hands of the illuminati who want to bring him down.

Men of peace. Men of Nobel prize for PEACE:

http://comments.theherald.co.uk/hera...fghanistan.php

Obama to send thousands more troops to Afghanistan (more precisely: 60,000)

Posted: Wednesday February 18, 2009, 08:27

President Barack Obama approved adding thousands of US troops for the flagging war in Afghanistan yesterday, his first significant move to change the course of a war that his...

If this is a men of peace...

And awarded Nobel prize. Maybe Nobel is rolling in his grave from how is used his prize.

Light Beyond · 10-09-2009, 05:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sarahmay

Sorry, you guys are wrong about Obama, he is a white hat. But the forces against him are astounding, and you are falling into the hands of the illuminati who want to bring him down.

.

Phtha · 10-09-2009, 05:52 PM

Yup. I never gave much faith to Wilcock in the first place, but since his Nobama lies I know he is paid dis info, and this is one of the main reasons why.

Peace prize, for continuing a genocide....

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Originally Posted by Light Beyond

I thought they were all the same being that obama is 8th cousin to dick cheney .

artvision · 10-09-2009, 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by pineal-pilot-in merkabah

george soros is call ing for a global currency, obv hes an agent for the queen /roths ..the idea is to implode the dollar and attempt to get a global currency

The issue of destroying the dollar is just to advance their agenda of One World Government, playing also the issue of frustration other people has to work for dollars, while US just need to print them. Who is buying this issue has a puerile thinking, not realizing that the collapse of dollar will bring us more bad things, than advertised good. From many years I do not save dollars, nor I do business in dollars, everything is in euro for me, but would be a stupidity from my side not realizing what problems worldwide will incur that maneuver.

As I have a life experience, when I've been in Germany at the time the PTB were pushing in the EURO and wishing death to Deutsche Mark, in a creepish, haloweenish show, of burying the DM and birth of Euro. The german people weren't happy at all and didn't participated to that artificial and stirrup joy, sensing somehow that they will not benefit from it. And so it was, because immediately everything that cost 100 DM translated in 100 EURO, while the salaries were halved: if you had 3000 DM, now have 1500 EURO, but merchandise doubled...

Be aware, those wishing death of dollar, you will have no gain from this, only to loose.

Humble Janitor · 10-10-2009, 02:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by artvision

"... the Devil will raise up a man with a genius for political imposture, a sinister bewitcher around whom fanatical multitudes will cluster. The ... [world] will hail this man as the Messiah ... After destroying the authority of Christianity, HE WILL UNITE ALL MANKIND ON THE BASIS OF UNIVERSAL PEACE AND BROTHERHOOD, and bestow on it a superabundance of material goods. For these great services, the Gentile nations will accept him, exalt him, and worship him as a god - but in reality, for all his apparent benevolence, he will be Satan's instrument for the perdition of mankind."

Gougenot des Mousseaux,
Le Juif, le judaisme it la judaisation
des peuples chretiens,
Paris, 1869

Nice try, but Obama is NOT the anti-christ.

I just love people who repeat such ridiculous assumptions.

artvision · 10-10-2009, 06:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Humble Janitor

Nice try, but Obama is NOT the anti-christ.

I just love people who repeat such ridiculous assumptions.

Also me I love people emit poor judgements based on superficiality.

For your information, is not about of ONE ANTICHRIST: there are MANY ANTICHRISTS:

read here: http://www.ourladyswarriors.org/bible/john1.htm
on Chapter 2, vers. 18:

18 Little children, it is the last hour; and as you have heard that Antichrist cometh, even now there are become many Antichrists: whereby we know that it is the last hour.

And another issue, I didn't say he is ANTICHRIST, I just put the quote to make as attentive to what might be the outcome from the MAN OF PEACE which sends more 60,000 troops in Afghanistan.

Lastly: the president whose "literary works" are published in Romania, just after 2 months he became president, not one book, but three and could be found in outskirts, dusty bookstore, in the window, from this man, we should be expecting to more things to come! We ain't see nothing yet, I'm sure!

pyrangello · 10-09-2009, 12:53 PM

Thats an interesting take ArtVision , And Steve oh yes many of us woke up this morning and heard the nobel peace prize award and when being told our president won almost everyones first response is "What did he do to win that?"

Maybe it's the promise of borrowed money he's handing out, 2 days ago here in detroit the city was given 15.4 million dollars to assist the residents in paying there heating bills, utilities and house payments, rumors got out that everyone was getting a check for $3000.00 . When in all reality that was not the case. So they showed up for 2 days and the newpaper is saying at least 50,000 citizens of detroit signed up for the money. They were lined up everywhere for hours.

" Show me the money !

Steve_A · 10-09-2009, 01:27 PM

Hi pyrangello,

The nominees for the Peace Prize had to be in by last February, in other words the award would be offered for things done before the closing date. Although handing out free dough I'm sure is very benevolent, it wouldn't have counted in this case.

So the question must be asked: What did Obama do last year and all the time before that, before he became president, that was so outreaching to the Muslim faith (the principal reason for him being awarded the honour)? It could bring up the question again if Obama is in fact Muslim as many had rumoured last year. Of course if he is, so what, but why hide the fact if it is true?

Best regards,

Steve

Quote:

Originally Posted by pyrangello

Thats an interesting take ArtVision , And Steve oh yes many of us woke up this morning and heard the nobel peace prize award and when being told our president won almost everyones first response is "What did he do to win that?"

Maybe it's the promise of borrowed money he's handing out, 2 days ago here in detroit the city was given 15.4 million dollars to assist the residents in paying there heating bills, utilities and house payments, rumors got out that everyone was getting a check for $3000.00 . When in all reality that was not the case. So they showed up for 2 days and the newpaper is saying at least 50,000 citizens of detroit signed up for the money. They were lined up everywhere for hours.

" Show me the money !

pyrangello · 10-09-2009, 03:12 PM

In regards to christianity, consider the following facts in the past few months regarding the disregard for this type of religion. When our president gave that speech at the all catholic college this year the administration had the crucifix blacked out behind where he was to give his speech so it would not be in the background on tv. Next there was no recognition of our national day of prayer that came and went, and historically our presidents have choose a church to attend to in the DC area, that has not happened either. I am certainley open to all religious beliefs and respect them all but I am just explaining what I see at present.

With the word God in so many aspects of this country "In God we trust" on our money and coins, God in the motto of every state in the union I just don't understand why there is such an attack of this area of religion as this was our base why this country was founded and created our identity.

orthodoxymoron · 10-09-2009, 04:14 PM

In my view, at least, the United States should be based solely upon the Constitution and the Bill of Rights...rather than being 'One Nation Under God'(which strongly implies a Theocracy). Wasn't this country established to escape Theocracy, Monarchy, and Aristocracy? The power is supposed to be in the hands of you and me...not in the hands of malevolent humans and non-humans...who are playing god.

At the front of the Senate Chambers...there are Fascist Symbols on each side...with 'One Nation Under God' front and center. Should this really read 'One Nation Under the Vatican'...or 'One Nation Under the Holy Roman Empire'? What's wrong with this picture? Why isn't the Constitution on one side...and the Bill of Rights on the other side...with 'One Nation Under the Constitution' front and center?

Also...I see Obama as someone who wants to do the right thing...but who has sold his soul to the CFR, the Bilderberg Group, etc, etc. He's in too deep. He's riding on the back of a tiger...and he may end up inside. I hope not...and I congratulate him regarding the Nobel Prize. What would Alfred Nobel say?

waitinginthewings · 10-09-2009, 04:37 PM

I was gobsmacked this morning when I read that headline of Obama winning the Nobel Peace Prize........it is such a blatant "fix"...........he has done "NOTHING" to deserve it. I also do not buy the theory that he is a good man who has sold his soul to TPTB. If he truly was a good man, he would have the courage to do the "right thing". If he is truly a "good man" he will return the Prize stating that he has NOT EARNED IT.

its interesting that I have not come across a single news items in the media, or online about Obama or anyone else for that matter being in the running for this prize........am I the only one who missed this? They really sneaked this one on us. hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

I have up until now held back on any opinion about Obama, because I wanted to give him the benefit of the doubt, & wait to see him show his "true colours" & for me he has just done that. I now concur with Artvision, who quoted the biblical passage........man of perdition. To me, this is the first tell-tale sign of who he really is.

Ancient Alien · 10-10-2009, 02:53 AM

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Originally Posted by waitinginthewings

If he is truly a "good man" he will return the Prize stating that he has NOT EARNED IT.

90 individuals are named as winners of the Nobel Peace Prize. Only once, in 1973, it has happened that a winner has refused to accept the award. It happened with the North Vietnamese chief negotiator Le Duc Tho, who shared the prize with Henry Kissinger after they negotiated a ceasefire agreement for Vietnam. Le Duc Tho would not accept the price because it was not yet peace in Vietnam.

waitinginthewings · 10-10-2009, 03:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Ancient Alien

90 individuals are named as winners of the Nobel Peace Prize. Only once, in 1973, it has happened that a winner has refused to accept the award. It happened with the North Vietnamese chief negotiator Le Duc Tho, who shared the prize with Henry Kissinger after they negotiated a ceasefire agreement for Vietnam. Le Duc Tho would not accept the price because it was not yet peace in Vietnam.

and Obama has not yet shown that he has done anything to earn this prize, hence my feeling that he should pass it on or share it with someone who deserves it.

From another article I read in the media, seems there is a mixed reaction to this from the public.

Swanny · 10-10-2009, 08:36 AM

Well after this the Nobel Peace Prize has lost all crediabilty to me, surely this is a joke???

Steve_A · 10-10-2009, 08:56 AM

Hi Swanny,

I tend to agree, the lustre has gone. I think the Nobel Peace Prize should now be downgraded to the same as the Eurovision Song Contest or Miss USA (in this case Mr. USA - imagine Obama being asked a difficult question whilst wearing a posing pouch!) or Dancing With the Stars.

It was said by some that he was given the award for his views on peace. I reckon most of us on this forum are more peace loving than he is. Do you reckon he'll share the dough with us? He can keep the trophy, it can't be worth all that much now, and just fork over the readies.

Best regards,

Steve

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Originally Posted by Swanny

Well after this the Nobel Peace Prize has lost all crediabilty to me, surely this is a joke???

viking · 10-10-2009, 09:25 AM

Hi Steve ...

Well I must say I am truly surprised about this. However I believe that this is not coincidental with the moon bombing!! More like devine synchonicity..

Anyway after yesterdays excitement I have a few thoughts.

To put it shortly...

Let's just say that Obama was in the know with NASA and they were going to bomb an ET space station. The ET's put a stop to NASA shenanigans. As we all saw on the screens.

Now the timing was too perfect with the announcement of the Nobel Peace Prize winner...Again synchronous and bloody perfect!! Did you all notice how uncomfortable he was with the acceptance speech. Perhaps he really did have no idea, but with the situation forced upon him he had no choice but to accept with a humble manner.

So if this is the case and Obama has been boxed in to the corner, it will be interesting to see how this pans out over the next few days. Whether he likes it or not he will now be regarded as a bringer of peace!!! Could this be the start of dismantling the war machine?

Is it a question of 'Devine intervention' with a little surprise thrown in!!

Mr Obama you will do this our way!!!

HA HA thay must be laughing there heads off!!!!

Hilarious...........

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ywSIVVLgA9w

All I can say is the 'Light' works in many ways.

Just my 2 cents worth....

viking

lucrum · 10-10-2009, 12:26 PM

Obama can very well choose to not accept it.

The leader of the nobel committee is Thorbjørn Jagland, which is also the leader of the European Council. He's getting massive critisism for this and is asked to leave the nobel committee.

How I see it, giving Obama the peace-prize prematurely is an attempt to restore goodwill towards him and further blind the masses. I'm not saying Obama is trying to cover anything up or intentionally doing things wrong, I actually think he stepped up as president of the US with good intentions and hopes for a better world.

The problem the way I see it, he has no political power or determination. He's been looking like a puppet so far, with all his promises not fullfilled or broken. He's trying but doesn't know how.

It was easy getting him elected. Take a black man, throw in some likeable words and a big big smile and top it with promises too good to be true. The fact alone he is the first ever afro-american president is enough. My first clue that something was wrong, was the interview where Obama told the world why he turns his head all the time while giving speeches. Teleprompters, he said...he needs them to remember the speech, if not he admitted to be completely lost.

To me, not having the ability to recite a speech without having to read a script...well, it's not very convincing.

Goes nicely with our "great" powerless king and our master of "rowing with chopsticks" primeminister.

orthodoxymoron · 10-09-2009, 04:43 PM

Someone can want to do the right thing...and still be a bad person. Selling one's soul is not a good sign...

waitinginthewings · 10-09-2009, 04:55 PM

Ortho: its his actions that count....that's what the people judge him by. A man who becomes President choose that position before he was born......so I believe that he absolutely knew the game he was getting into. JFK also knew the game & tried to change it, by doing the right thing.....for that, they killed him.

I fully expect an attempt on Obama's life just to manipulate us further into thinking that he "must be a good man" because only "good men" are killed.

Jnana · 10-09-2009, 05:12 PM

This was one of those announcements that just seemed surreal. Scientists who's work has resulted in great benefits to society often don't get recognized until decades after their work was initially published. What has Obama accomplished? Next to nothing. This goes beyond being merely political and well into bizarre. What does the Nobel Committee know that we don't know?

waitinginthewings · 10-09-2009, 05:17 PM

Jnana: ................"what does the Nobel Committee know ..........."

Well in my opinion, probably nothing.......they were just given the order for the prize to go to Obama. No questions allowed

10-09-2009, 09:52 AM	#1
Steve_A Project Avalon Moderator Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Northeastern Brazil Posts: 1,259	Barak Obama and Nobel Hi Everybody, Barak Obama was awarded the Nobel Peace Prize this morning. I say awarded as in this case I can't say that he won it on merit, but that's another story. The cut off date for nominations for the award is in the February before the award, two weeks after Obama took office. Go figure. The principal reason for the giving of the award to Obama was because he outreached to the Muslim world, which is all good and done, however he is still wanting to try and destroy with Israel almost the whole of the Middle East. I wish I could win an award and the money just for lip service. Best regards, Steve Last edited by Steve_A; 10-09-2009 at 09:58 AM.

10-09-2009, 12:14 PM	#2
artvision Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 328	Re: Barak Obama and Nobel "... the Devil will raise up a man with a genius for political imposture, a sinister bewitcher around whom fanatical multitudes will cluster. The ... [world] will hail this man as the Messiah ... After destroying the authority of Christianity, HE WILL UNITE ALL MANKIND ON THE BASIS OF UNIVERSAL PEACE AND BROTHERHOOD, and bestow on it a superabundance of material goods. For these great services, the Gentile nations will accept him, exalt him, and worship him as a god - but in reality, for all his apparent benevolence, he will be Satan's instrument for the perdition of mankind." Gougenot des Mousseaux, Le Juif, le judaisme it la judaisation des peuples chretiens, Paris, 1869 Last edited by artvision; 10-09-2009 at 12:18 PM.

10-09-2009, 12:46 PM	#3
pineal-pilot-in merkabah Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: england Posts: 1,153	Re: Barak Obama and Nobel david wilcock is sounding more and more wrong about this man as each day passes.. also in his great lecture in LA he goes on about even goeorge soros is call ing for a global currencie, obv hes an agent for the queen /roths ..the idea is to implode the dollar and attempt to get a global currencie.. i like david wilcock but i think hes in fantasy land on this one.. there is 99.9% evidence obama is a fraud wilcocks evidence is .1%

10-09-2009, 12:52 PM	#4
Sarahmay Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Sedona Arizona Posts: 549	Re: Barak Obama and Nobel Sorry, you guys are wrong about Obama, he is a white hat. But the forces against him are astounding, and you are falling into the hands of the illuminati who want to bring him down.

10-09-2009, 12:53 PM	#11
pyrangello Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Northern Michigan Posts: 412	Re: Barak Obama and Nobel Thats an interesting take ArtVision , And Steve oh yes many of us woke up this morning and heard the nobel peace prize award and when being told our president won almost everyones first response is "What did he do to win that?" Maybe it's the promise of borrowed money he's handing out, 2 days ago here in detroit the city was given 15.4 million dollars to assist the residents in paying there heating bills, utilities and house payments, rumors got out that everyone was getting a check for $3000.00 . When in all reality that was not the case. So they showed up for 2 days and the newpaper is saying at least 50,000 citizens of detroit signed up for the money. They were lined up everywhere for hours. " Show me the money !

10-09-2009, 03:12 PM	#13
pyrangello Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Northern Michigan Posts: 412	Re: Barak Obama and Nobel In regards to christianity, consider the following facts in the past few months regarding the disregard for this type of religion. When our president gave that speech at the all catholic college this year the administration had the crucifix blacked out behind where he was to give his speech so it would not be in the background on tv. Next there was no recognition of our national day of prayer that came and went, and historically our presidents have choose a church to attend to in the DC area, that has not happened either. I am certainley open to all religious beliefs and respect them all but I am just explaining what I see at present. With the word God in so many aspects of this country "In God we trust" on our money and coins, God in the motto of every state in the union I just don't understand why there is such an attack of this area of religion as this was our base why this country was founded and created our identity.

10-09-2009, 04:14 PM	#14
orthodoxymoron Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Lunar Base II Posts: 3,093	Re: Barak Obama and Nobel In my view, at least, the United States should be based solely upon the Constitution and the Bill of Rights...rather than being 'One Nation Under God'(which strongly implies a Theocracy). Wasn't this country established to escape Theocracy, Monarchy, and Aristocracy? The power is supposed to be in the hands of you and me...not in the hands of malevolent humans and non-humans...who are playing god. At the front of the Senate Chambers...there are Fascist Symbols on each side...with 'One Nation Under God' front and center. Should this really read 'One Nation Under the Vatican'...or 'One Nation Under the Holy Roman Empire'? What's wrong with this picture? Why isn't the Constitution on one side...and the Bill of Rights on the other side...with 'One Nation Under the Constitution' front and center? Also...I see Obama as someone who wants to do the right thing...but who has sold his soul to the CFR, the Bilderberg Group, etc, etc. He's in too deep. He's riding on the back of a tiger...and he may end up inside. I hope not...and I congratulate him regarding the Nobel Prize. What would Alfred Nobel say? Last edited by orthodoxymoron; 10-09-2009 at 05:52 PM.

10-09-2009, 04:37 PM	#15
waitinginthewings Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: BC. Canada Posts: 1,340	Re: Barak Obama and Nobel I was gobsmacked this morning when I read that headline of Obama winning the Nobel Peace Prize........it is such a blatant "fix"...........he has done "NOTHING" to deserve it. I also do not buy the theory that he is a good man who has sold his soul to TPTB. If he truly was a good man, he would have the courage to do the "right thing". If he is truly a "good man" he will return the Prize stating that he has NOT EARNED IT. its interesting that I have not come across a single news items in the media, or online about Obama or anyone else for that matter being in the running for this prize........am I the only one who missed this? They really sneaked this one on us. hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm I have up until now held back on any opinion about Obama, because I wanted to give him the benefit of the doubt, & wait to see him show his "true colours" & for me he has just done that. I now concur with Artvision, who quoted the biblical passage........man of perdition. To me, this is the first tell-tale sign of who he really is. Last edited by waitinginthewings; 10-09-2009 at 04:41 PM.

10-10-2009, 08:36 AM	#18
Swanny I dont need a label ! Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: The Shire of Wilt Posts: 2,889	Re: Barak Obama and Nobel Well after this the Nobel Peace Prize has lost all crediabilty to me, surely this is a joke???

10-10-2009, 09:25 AM	#20
viking Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: UK Posts: 1,709	Re: Barak Obama and Nobel Hi Steve ... Well I must say I am truly surprised about this. However I believe that this is not coincidental with the moon bombing!! More like devine synchonicity.. Anyway after yesterdays excitement I have a few thoughts. To put it shortly... Let's just say that Obama was in the know with NASA and they were going to bomb an ET space station. The ET's put a stop to NASA shenanigans. As we all saw on the screens. Now the timing was too perfect with the announcement of the Nobel Peace Prize winner...Again synchronous and bloody perfect!! Did you all notice how uncomfortable he was with the acceptance speech. Perhaps he really did have no idea, but with the situation forced upon him he had no choice but to accept with a humble manner. So if this is the case and Obama has been boxed in to the corner, it will be interesting to see how this pans out over the next few days. Whether he likes it or not he will now be regarded as a bringer of peace!!! Could this be the start of dismantling the war machine? Is it a question of 'Devine intervention' with a little surprise thrown in!! Mr Obama you will do this our way!!! HA HA thay must be laughing there heads off!!!! Hilarious........... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ywSIVVLgA9w All I can say is the 'Light' works in many ways. Just my 2 cents worth.... viking Last edited by viking; 10-10-2009 at 10:39 AM.

10-10-2009, 12:26 PM	#21
lucrum Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Norway Posts: 209	Re: Barak Obama and Nobel Obama can very well choose to not accept it. The leader of the nobel committee is Thorbjørn Jagland, which is also the leader of the European Council. He's getting massive critisism for this and is asked to leave the nobel committee. How I see it, giving Obama the peace-prize prematurely is an attempt to restore goodwill towards him and further blind the masses. I'm not saying Obama is trying to cover anything up or intentionally doing things wrong, I actually think he stepped up as president of the US with good intentions and hopes for a better world. The problem the way I see it, he has no political power or determination. He's been looking like a puppet so far, with all his promises not fullfilled or broken. He's trying but doesn't know how. It was easy getting him elected. Take a black man, throw in some likeable words and a big big smile and top it with promises too good to be true. The fact alone he is the first ever afro-american president is enough. My first clue that something was wrong, was the interview where Obama told the world why he turns his head all the time while giving speeches. Teleprompters, he said...he needs them to remember the speech, if not he admitted to be completely lost. To me, not having the ability to recite a speech without having to read a script...well, it's not very convincing. Goes nicely with our "great" powerless king and our master of "rowing with chopsticks" primeminister.

10-09-2009, 04:43 PM	#22
orthodoxymoron Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Lunar Base II Posts: 3,093	Re: Barak Obama and Nobel Someone can want to do the right thing...and still be a bad person. Selling one's soul is not a good sign...

10-09-2009, 04:55 PM	#23
waitinginthewings Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: BC. Canada Posts: 1,340	Re: Barak Obama and Nobel Ortho: its his actions that count....that's what the people judge him by. A man who becomes President choose that position before he was born......so I believe that he absolutely knew the game he was getting into. JFK also knew the game & tried to change it, by doing the right thing.....for that, they killed him. I fully expect an attempt on Obama's life just to manipulate us further into thinking that he "must be a good man" because only "good men" are killed.

10-09-2009, 05:12 PM	#24
Jnana Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Indiana Posts: 653	Re: Barak Obama and Nobel This was one of those announcements that just seemed surreal. Scientists who's work has resulted in great benefits to society often don't get recognized until decades after their work was initially published. What has Obama accomplished? Next to nothing. This goes beyond being merely political and well into bizarre. What does the Nobel Committee know that we don't know?

10-09-2009, 05:17 PM	#25
waitinginthewings Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: BC. Canada Posts: 1,340	Re: Barak Obama and Nobel Jnana: ................"what does the Nobel Committee know ..........." Well in my opinion, probably nothing.......they were just given the order for the prize to go to Obama. No questions allowed