List of Predictions

[Waterman]

I have been asked to re-post information that John Moore shared on his radio broadcast earlier this week.

In the brief below, John Moore shares his concerns, but I would encourage anyone interested to listen to each of his broadcasts this week. He is now on daily at www.themicroeffect.com, which is where Jeff Rense is now. And the shows are archived.

John has been and still is a private homicide detective of 37 years around the St. Louis area, and ex-special forces.

Briefing of JR Moore- (summarizing)
I (John Moore) just received some information from a military source (John stated he has known this very reliable source for a long time) and we are facing a really serious disastrous event with high probability. Should it occur it will put the country in a free for all and of course a high potential for martial law etc, will exist.

He went on to give a list of eleven cities that have been targeted for an attack starting sometime after June 1. And the type of attack he was talking about was a nuke.

Now this type of info leads to a lot of thought provoking responses. However, we might want to consider that just because something "doesn't" happen is not proof there wasn't some type of 007 struggle at the last minute to save the world. Or more realistically, a last minute missed detail derailed the bad guy's plan while in motion. And have we ever heard the federal government get on the news and say whew we almost lost Dallas today to a nuke? Not likely nor will we, especially if some of them are complicit (like they were in the WTC).

John's comments continued by stating what we could be facing this fall. Read them without fear as just a list of things to consider. His reason for stating these is because of the reliability of his sources. And if ever you wanted a source vetted, you would want him vetting it.

1) The final economic/dollar collapse - Sept/Oct
2) Food shortages - Sept/Oct
3) A pandemic - Aug
4) And quite possibly a nuclear attack on a city - sometime after June 1.
Also he mentioned that WWIII might already be going and we just don't know it yet...

More thoughts on the list.

1. Economy- Several months ago we were given a date of October 7 by Cliff High, and his research indicated that the event would disturb us for quite some time. Then we had the market crash and bailout right on schedule, and the economy continues to be troubled. Now, through his latest research he has predicted the following.
2. The derivatives bubble will start the event-ball rolling in Aug. of 2009. That hyperinflation will begin in the background October 16 and that for 10 days the word “consternation” is seen in the research, and linked to the event. Then on November 5 hyperinflation will become visible to the public. Continuing, from November 5-8 the dollar will lose its luster and no one will want it and that will last till March 2010.
3. Then post December 2009 early 2010, the federal government will economically collapse, which has already started to be seen by the releasing of many federal contractors.
4. That one sixth of the Dutch are seriously preparing for the imminent collapse of the dollar along with the a higher percentage of the Russians preparing.

So John's economic info is lining up with Cliff High who was dead on with last October's economic event. It would not be hard to see why there would be a food shortage if there was a collapse of the dollar.


Pandemic: Too much to say on this topic to list here, so just go to my blog which is linked at the bottom.

My final thoughts.
How much more do we have to be told that the nation is tanking. It's going to be great to see the dark side fail, which it will.... eventually, but we have a really bumpy road to travel before we get there.

Yes we the people, not government are going to have to make plans to take back the responsibilities we have so long neglected. And if any one or all of these events were to occur, hopefully we can all find ourselves in a location where people know how to take care of themselves. Even if we are alone and not in a community, at least be in a state were you can expect the people to tell the federal government leave us alone we'll take care of ourselves.

My advice? Continue to store food, Examine your state, and plan on moving if it is going to cooperate with big brother. And remember it is about all of us, me, you, our neighbors. Be ready to help put the community into action with real answers YOU have thought of ahead of time.


So, what would you recommend your community to do? Even if only one of these events happen, there is going to be a lot of needy people that have not even mentally prepared.



How should we get ready to meet these needs?

[Dantheman62]

Is it this John Moore? http://www.thelibertyman.com/

No offense, but for now I'll pass on his information, thanks. I don't know if he's credible or not, but he doesn't sit right with me. And actually being a cop even lessens his chances of convincing me of anything. But I'm a hard sell for some things.

[Humble Janitor]

What does this have to do with preparations? It's just more speculation.

And the more we buy into this stuff, the more it's going to happen. Let's not.

[Anchor]

Originally Posted by Waterman

So, what would you recommend your community to do? Even if only one of these events happen, there is going to be a lot of needy people that have not even mentally prepared.

I think it likely that humankind has not progressed enough to completely take away the possibility of some calamity or upheaval, however the exact nature of it is immaterial and listing the scenarios and detailing the kinds of damage actually can influence the way things pan out because it can de-focus one from a visualized positive outcome.

The positive outcome is assured, but getting there as you say is going to be traumatic.

Preparation is vital for all the reasons/possibilities you state, but paying attention to the doom and gloom more than necessary for effective planning should definitely be guarded against.

A..

[shred]

Originally Posted by Anchor

I think it likely that humankind has not progressed enough to completely take away the possibility of some calamity or upheaval, however the exact nature of it is immaterial and listing the scenarios and detailing the kinds of damage actually can influence the way things pan out because it can de-focus one from a visualized positive outcome.

The positive outcome is assured, but getting there as you say is going to be traumatic.

Preparation is vital for all the reasons/possibilities you state, but paying attention to the doom and gloom more than necessary for effective planning should definitely be guarded against.

A..

Yup ! That reminds me of the movie "The day the earth stood still" Where the alien is talking with a scientist discussing "that humans must be cleansed from the earth because of their self destructive nature" And the scientist's reply is "It is at the very edge or presibus that human learns & changes" ( sorry for the spelling)

shred

[Carol]

This is informative too.


Gerald Celente Predicts Economic Armageddon by 2012


There is some information which leaves me very confused. Why bother cleansing the earth if there is going to be major earth changes? Won't the earth changes do the same thing? Or perhaps there is another reason for these scenarios - perhaps the reason behind the screen is to create fear - an emotion that the negative ETs feast off of. Or perhaps the reason is to release souls from their bodies so they can be trapped, captured by these same negative ETs and taken to another dimension or universe. These ideas are a bit out there yet they are what popped to mind as a consideration.

[Northern Boy]

Originally Posted by Carol

There is some information which leaves me very confused. Why bother cleansing the earth if there is going to be major earth changes? Won't the earth changes do the same thing? Or perhaps there is another reason for these scenarios - perhaps the reason behind the screen is to create fear - an emotion that the negative ETs feast off of. Or perhaps the reason is to release souls from their bodies so they can be trapped, captured by these same negative ETs and taken to another dimension or universe. These ideas are a bit out there yet they are what popped to mind as a consideration.

There is no reason to fear it the collapse is going to happen and we can`t change that, it is necessary , What we have to watch out for is any solution they try to pass off as a way of trying to fix and continue the system. We need to end it .
Earth changes are going to occur and 2 places you don`t want to be are the east or the west coast and possibly any where near Yellowstone . There are going to be casualties with earth changes , the idea is to try and minimize , people are going to make there own choices as to where it will be safe . You have to decide what`s best for you and where you and those with you are going to feel safe . In the States its be said the four corners area is supposed to be safe I`m sure there are others I live in Canada so i expect any where above the great lakes should be good and out west , Stay away form the east coast

[alyscat]

I'm thinking that the goal will be to cart off as much money as possible before the earth changes - and then the PTB will be in what they consider a "safe place."

[Christo888]

Originally Posted by Carol

This is informative too.


Gerald Celente Predicts Economic Armageddon by 2012
YouTube - Gerald Celente Predicts Economic Armageddon by 2012


There is some information which leaves me very confused. Why bother cleansing the earth if there is going to be major earth changes? Won't the earth changes do the same thing? Or perhaps there is another reason for these scenarios - perhaps the reason behind the screen is to create fear - an emotion that the negative ETs feast off of. Or perhaps the reason is to release souls from their bodies so they can be trapped, captured by these same negative ETs and taken to another dimension or universe. These ideas are a bit out there yet they are what popped to mind as a consideration.

Carol... not out there at all... actually, spot on! The winding up of as much of humanity into a bait ball as possible in order to force the highest amount of fear possible so that the power of love cannot shield and convert, in an attempt to capture God at some point in time!


Plus... 'Ruthenium' and quite possibly other new by-products can be produced from spent Nuclear fuel or fallout/waste. A desired element in the rare metals for its micro photo-luminescence and potential future technologies.

[TraineeHuman]

I'd like to comment about "releasing souls from their bodies" so that they can be "trapped". I happen to have some direct and real memories from before I was born and of the "between lives" or "afterlife" realm, so I'd like to try and clear up some confusions (and some of the paranoia some people feel). At the risk of sounding pompous or something, I guess I see this as almost a kind of "whistleblower testimony". People jump to all sorts of false conclusions in this area because of their total lack of remembered first-hand experience of this.

Firstly, this is kind of a digression, but it sets part of the scene, and does clarify things about what a "soul" actually is. Many Avalon posters seem to adopt the view that what we are is a body plus some kind of a "ghost in the machine". Well, there's a small book written about forty or fifty years ago called The Concept of Mind by Gilbert Ryle, who was Professor of Philosophy at Cambridge. Philosophers generally consider that book to be one of the classic works of twentieth century philosophy. In that book Ryle examines what the implications would be if a human being was indeed a "ghost in the machine" plus the body. Ryle dismisses the idea that the "ghost" could actually be the universe/God, on the grounds that that's "pantheism". But Ryle does argue and absolutely prove with stunning clarity that the "ghost" can't possibly be anything else. So: your "soul" is really the same as, or extremely at one with, the entire universe. As the Zen master Joshu put it, if you imagine the universe to be a diamond with billions of faces, each person is that diamond seen from a unique angle and perspective -- but they're not just the surface of the diamond, they're the whole diamond, from one unique angle. I hope this is enough to clarify that your "soul" is something that can't in any way be trapped. At least, your soul can only be trapped to the extent that it knowingly and deliberately initiates the trapping -- and creates appropriate protection beforehand.

Secondly, I'd like to talk about the personality. We know for a fact from biology that our all thoughts and feelings take expression as electric currents (and sometimes electro-chemical reactions) in our body. But from physics, we also know that whenever you have electric currents they create or add to a magnetic field that tries to keep re-creating more of the same currents (which is why habits are so easy to indulge).That gigantically complex electromagnetic field is precisely what we call "the personality". (The negative side of that field is precisely what many meditation traditions call "the ego".) And in my experience, any really good clairvoyant knows for a fact that when a person dies their personality splits off from them much as the body does. Not only that, but that it is a living thing with a little consciousness and lots of life-energy, and lives on in "the astral" for at least centuries. But it's not you -- it's kind of just your refuse. I do agree that reptilians and others may choose to do terrible things to such personalities (hence Peggy Kane etc). Also, the personalities of the deceased can get "trapped". But they're not you. The only difficulty there is that most people stay rather emotionally attached to their last personality after they die. Which is also the only cause of suffering for the dead, though that suffering can be considerable. (Being burned in "hell" fires refers to the personality, which eventually does disintegrate and kind of burn up. Also, 20% or 30% of people experience a kind of "hellish" initial shock when they die, but that's purely because they've been very dishonest with themselves about what they really feel -- about what's coming from their "soul", if you like.)

Thirdly, I happen to know that up until a few thousand years ago I used to be a guardian angel for individuals from this planet. (Millions of years before the humanish species there used to be an intelligent species engineered from horses, whose descendants left on the Earth are whales and dolphins. Dinosaurs were also a slightly intelligent species. And that's only to mention a few the different intelligent species of Earth.) Guardian angels are very real, but they come from a "higher frequency" than most ETs. They are the one and only custodians of human "souls" much as the greys/reptilians are currently the custodians of human politics and history (and more benevolently so than many people imagine). And any alien that wants to "trap" a soul (which is probably a meaningless or impossible concept anyway) will have to deal with the guardian angels (who are not to be confused with "guides"; many "guides" can be harmful -- including any that were your own personality in a previous life).

[MastaYoda]

Originally Posted by Waterman

1) The final economic/dollar collapse - Sept/Oct
2) Food shortages - Sept/Oct
3) A pandemic - Aug
4) And quite possibly a nuclear attack on a city - sometime after June 1.
Also he mentioned that WWIII might already be going and we just don't know it yet...

I started to work on the same thing, but more of graphical Time line with events. So people can scroll the time line with future and passed events.

But I don't have much info, also it needs to be hosted where everyone can see it. Not just people on this blog!. I think its a great idea so people have more of a visual view.

[lemon_sky88]

I second that Yoda. I get the positive vibe thing every one talks about. dont focus on the negative. but if a trucks coming and i can get out of the way.. Im gona get out of the way. I dont mind speculating and recieveing inside info on these sorts of matters it helps to round the picture. yin-yang. we gont like yang too much but hes there hes nessisary and brings harmony. dont outcast him imbrace him.

[Waterman]

This is an update and clarification of my post.


Some of you do not know John Moore so let me clarify. John is not a cop he is a “private” detective and his specialty is homicide. He has also been hired for protective services by notable entertainers, and is a consultant in survival. John has two websites www.thelibertyman.com and http://www.ruralsurvival.info .


In the meantime I've been trying to validate the list John gave from several different sources, hoping that it gives us some indication how likely it is that we have to act upon it, and when. The economic indicators are clear and easily covered, and sources are fairly abundant. Below is a video covering that area fairly well with George Humphrey, Gerald Celente, and Webster Tarpley.


Covering this topic in print is Bob Chapman's International Forecaster newsletter, a regularly published economic newsletter.
http://www.theinternationalforecaste...nflation_Rises


And probably most important if valid is following up on the info about an imminent attack. For more on that topic I found Jack McLamb with the following information (link below). In this interview Jack covers plans to launch another 911 attack upon the people in America, soon.
http://www.freedomradio.us/Joomla/in...964&Itemid=156


For those that are new, Jack (http://www.jackmclamb.org/) is the highest decorated Phoenix police officer, now retired. He publishes Aid and Abet newsletter. To educate police and military against the new world order.


If an attack upon America is imminent I will give due diligence to find a third source to validate the information soon as possible.

[Dantheman62]

Thanks for the updates Waterman, that was my mistake about calling him a cop, oops.
I just watched the video and am checking out the links.

[Waterman]

Right at this minute I'm on the phone with a contact. He is talking to me at the same time he is talking to the other person. The other person is connected (ehem) to the CIA. And here is the scoop ... You are getting it right as I'm being told.

The man former CIA (40 years) said there is a 15 megaton bomb missing in the states. And that he has just walked away from everything he couldn't bring with him and is on a boat and is leaving the country. I was told he didn't even take his car, and left his keys.

So take it for what it is worth but I will get more soon as I can...

In the meantime I would rather be called all those names I know will come for being a ill informed messenger than to not inform everyone what I heard. At least you know I'm trying to get answers.

[alyscat]

This would be an interesting situation - potentially a false flag event here - or a strike somewhere else, making it look like it came from here - possibly totally without our government's knowledge - just the knowledge of someone higher up in the security clearance chain than our president...

[Christo888]

Originally Posted by Waterman

Right at this minute I'm on the phone with a contact. He is talking to me at the same time he is talking to the other person. The other person is connected (ehem) to the CIA. And here is the scoop ... You are getting it right as I'm being told.

The man former CIA (40 years) said there is a 15 megaton bomb missing in the states. And that he has just walked away from everything he couldn't bring with him and is on a boat and is leaving the country. I was told he didn't even take his car, and left his keys.

So take it for what it is worth but I will get more soon as I can...

In the meantime I would rather be called all those names I know will come for being a ill informed messenger than to not inform everyone what I heard. At least you know I'm trying to get answers.

OK... then I am asking for help and assistance to find, disarm, and render this device neutral.

Running away by someone in the 'know' is at odds with the duty of position!!!

[Dantheman62]

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[Swanny]

I'm just going to enjoy the summer
Who knows it maybe our last

[alyscat]

Anything else new after this was posted, Waterman?

So, hmmm, what could happen with a 15 megatron bomb? (I'm not being facetious, here) Hiroshima was a 12.5 kiloton bomb, so this would be more than 1000 x stronger? (which country in its right mind would create one of these? - oh, wait, us, of course <sheesh>) So, is this a nuclear winter kind of thing? An "On the Beach" kind of thing? If it were dropped in NYC or DC (with prevailing winds w to e) what happens in Seattle?

Just curious, if someone knows the answer...

alys

Originally Posted by Waterman

Right at this minute I'm on the phone with a contact. He is talking to me at the same time he is talking to the other person. The other person is connected (ehem) to the CIA. And here is the scoop ... You are getting it right as I'm being told.

The man former CIA (40 years) said there is a 15 megaton bomb missing in the states. And that he has just walked away from everything he couldn't bring with him and is on a boat and is leaving the country. I was told he didn't even take his car, and left his keys.
........

[skyrimirre]

Thanks for posting this. Keep us informed.

[Dantheman62]

quote:

And probably most important if valid is following up on the info about an imminent attack. For more on that topic I found Jack McLamb with the following information (link below). In this interview Jack covers plans to launch another 911 attack upon the people in America, soon.
http://www.freedomradio.us/Joomla/in...964&Itemid=156


This guy Jack Mclamb needs to go out and get some fresh air from what I heard in that link!
I shut it off halfway through because it's ridiculous.

[Luminari]

Originally Posted by Waterman

Cliff High, and his research indicated that... hyperinflation will begin in the background October 16 and that for 10 days the word “consternation” is seen in the research, and linked to the event.

con⋅ster⋅na⋅tion
  /ˌkɒnstərˈneɪʃən/ Show Spelled [kon-ster-ney-shuhn]
–noun
a sudden, alarming amazement or dread that results in utter confusion; dismay.

—Synonyms
bewilderment, alarm, terror, fear, panic, fright, horror.


So like a financial armageddon.. the bankers and the Fed will pull another rabbit out of the hat to keep the snowball rolling I'm sure.

As for the rogue nuke situation, Bill Deagle and other fear-mongers have been talking about this scenario for ages haven't they.

I dont think the Pleiadian and other guardians would allow it to go that far (detonation).. they have demonstrated how easily (piece of cake) they can disable our nukes many times (disclosure project witness testamonials) nevermind the 007 types. We shall see.

[pineal-pilot-in merkabah]

im assuming a small nuke from the koreans will poss be deteonated, PPARENTLY THEIR 2ND TEST was half a mega ton.. obv the tv cameras will be there like 9/11 and broadcast over and over again for effect. thats the only situation a nuke can go off in i thin k..

i think financial collpase and fake virus outbreaks are enough to meet the needs of culling the sheep.

ps; a north korean nuke detonated in south korea not on usa soil. once the economy collapses they are hoping the peple of america will turn on each other and do tho job for them.

[Debi5]

Wasn't sure where to put this!?