Kind thoughts for Antaletriangle

[Jacqui D]

I have had a few members contacting me regarding Antaletriangles departure, i thought it would be nice to leave a message here if you wish to just let him know he is missed.
He may be still looking in even though he is not posting.
He is one of the first members along with myself and he will be greatly missed.
And this would save me passing on all the good wishes which i have received for him since his leaving.
And perhaps this will spur him on to return.

[scanner]

WTF why where whats happened to him? is it the subs are you in contact with him . I'm shocked

[orthodoxymoron]

I am still picking myself up off the floor. This must be a break. It can't be permanent. When I saw Antaletriangle connected with a thread...I knew it would be worthwhile. Listen...I think we are in the middle of a spiritual war...and I tend to think that alternative thinkers are more at risk of burnout than the general population. Some of us may be especially supernaturally targeted...even though I think we all are...to a certain extent. Many people here seem to be trying to solve the world's problems...and are very good at doing Atlas imitations. Antaletriangle...when you return...you might want to rename yourself...AtlasTryAngle...it would fit. I worry that departures can sometimes be the result of threatenings, foul-play, etc. Revealing damaging information about corrupt people and organizations might conceivably precipitate attempts to stop that flow of information. If A thread-starter or poster is getting hit with a lot of flack...then they must be over the target. BOMBS AWAY!

Take a couple of weeks off. Exercise in nature every day. Listen to some quality music. Lay off the alternative stuff(too much upsetting information and discussion can drive a man to drink). And then GET BACK TO WORK!

[Luminari]

I had no idea.. im sure he will be back after a bit of a break.

Come have a beer in the lounge and drown your sorrows mate.

[cantaloupe]

Thanks Antal, I benefitted greatly from your presence here. Hope you return. Cheers to you in any event.
Cantaloupe

[Malletzky]

Hey AntaleTriangle, I must admit I haven't even noticed you're gone...what a shame, I'm sorry.

But I definately enjoyed your posts/threads and I do hope you just took a day or two off...If everything is well with you, please consider of coming back here...we're missing you...

with
malletzky

[burgundia]

I wish he would come back and tell us exactly what happened. Otherwise we'll never know and will try to speculate.

[JesterTerrestrial]

PEACE TO YOU MY FRIEND!

I think I speak for most of the members when I say...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pSywtiAirKE

Come on man, don't let a few ???????? get you down!

[Swanny]

Dantheman seems to have gone missing as well

Originally Posted by Swanny

Dantheman seems to have gone missing as well

He posted earlier today on the Camelot / St Clair thread.

[tone3jaguar]

on a second side note,
i was privy, to an private email, sent to him,
by a moderator--you know who you are, i don't need to call you out,
by your name -- and, all i can say to you,
is shame on you !!!
And, that i hope one day,
someone sends you, something similar
(as, then, and, only then,
you might you know, how it feels to have
someone trample upon you, and, how that might feel)
all, i will say, is that, i was appalled, and, i was shocked,
that you would, do something, so crass.

nfg

[THE eXchanger]

ixxx

[Swanny]

[iainl140285]

Originally Posted by Swanny

Hey Ant. If you read this seriously we need you back! I have nothing to read when Im at work without your posts

DONT MAKE ME WORK!

Peace
Iain

[Gemeos]

Like I said in one of his posts, Antaletriangle was the ultimate Avalon Researcher (with do respect to the real Avalon Researchers). He always managed to post something interesting to read.

Hope it's only a "Kit-Kat" break.

Regards

Gemeos

[golden lady]

Very well put exchanger. LIke you say lets hope he is on his holls and will retutrn to us soon.
I logged on yesturday to find he hadn't posted and found myself logging off very qiuckly. Miss you Antal.
Kindest of regards Antal and the warmest of wishes.
Love and Peace Golden

[blastawaycas]

ATELATRIANGLE COULD'T PRONOUNCE YOUR NAME
READ YOUR BLOODY POSTS THE JUST THE BLEEDIN SAME
COME BACK FELLA
PART OF THIS LIITLE COMMUNE HERE
IF IT HELPS I'LL BUY A COUPLE OF BEERS
ANTELTHINGYBOB
COME ON BACK
AVALON NOW HAS GONE A LITTLE SLACK
LOTS OF INFO
GREAT LINKS TOO
NO ONE IS TRUE AS YOU

'CEPT EGG !!!


KINDEST REGARDS DAVE CASTER

[blastawaycas]

ARE YOU COMIN' BACK
STICK A POST UNDER MINE
GO ON BIG LAD

:trum pet:: trumpet:


Dave

:thumb_yell o:

[THE eXchanger]

xxx

[Karen]

On a second side note,
i was privy, to an private email, sent to him,
by a moderator--you KNOW who you are, i don't need to call you out,
by your name -- and, all i can say to you,
is shame on you !!!
and, that i hope one day,
someone sends you, something similar
(as, then, and, only then,
you might you KNOW, how it feels to have
someone trample upon you, and, how that might feel)
all, i will say, is that, i was appalled, and, i was shocked,
that you would, do something, so crass.

Susan, saying it is a moderator, but not naming them, is something that I object to - causing members to look askance at each member of our small moderating team.
I also object to your very harsh public judgment and chastisement of this very young lad, Jack. I've seen you do that with other forum members and their objections to it. None of us are perfect yet - we all learn or relearn lessons every day.

One of the biggest problems our world faces is a shut-down in communication when human interaction goes wrong. Since I know some inside scoop on this mod issue, that has now become a public matter, I will tell some of what I know that will hopefully help shed some light on both sides of the issue.

If any of you had been following Jack's recent posts, he was trying to steer the forum in a more positive, proactive direction. But like when I was trying to get something going to update the forum guidelines (esp the one about networking with each other when money is involved, but no guidelines have yet been changed) Jack wasn't too successful at getting other mods to back his project, and he suddenly acted on his own with a post to Wayne, the contents of which I have no knowledge. From my perspective and private communications with Jack, I saw that in his youthful exuberance and excitement over the amazing results of his own personal "thinking only positive thoughts" campaign, he lost or missed the ying and the yang balance of the matter, and very much offended Wayne and whoever else Wayne shared that private email with.

Jack took quite a few hits for this mistake/foopah in mod chat. Almost every moderator sent an apology to Wayne for what happened. Now Jack has not joined us in mod chat since this happened, he has not posted on the forum since the 14th and has not signed in to the forum since the afternoon of the 20th. I myself have decided when feeling snubbed or misunderstood - at least a dozen times - that I really aught to not come back here anymore. And when we fall into that "divide" mentality we are ripe to be conquered. Will we choose to evolve or devolve?

I think Jack meant well, thinking he was acting in the highest good for all concerned, he just failed to look at the other side of his PM to Wayne. How many such mistakes did you all make in your teens and early 20's? This reminds me of the Hawaiian healing technique - "I'm so sorry. Please forgive me. I love you."

I hope Wayne and Jack and many others will return and join us once again, but I also know sometimes we just need to move on to other things.

For those that want to see human communication skills evolve, here's a great site:
The Center for Nonviolent Communication
http://www.cnvc.org/

The Center for Nonviolent Communication is a global network of people and communities committed to living and teaching NVC to resolve conflict and meet the needs of all people.

CNVC leaders have helped negotiate peace between individuals, families, communities, political factions and nations. We have facilitated workshops around the world that help people learn how to create environments that support powerful life-serving systems.

Have you ever wondered if there was a way all people could live in peace? Have you ever longed to reach a point of understanding with someone you care about when you find yourselves divided by disagreements or differences? Maybe you’ve longed to express what you really feel or what is important to you? Or, have you ever wanted to foster agreement with agroup of people who was unable to agree with another group—especially when the disagreement became life-threatening?

If so, you may be interested in learning about Nonviolent Communication.

What it is…..
Simply put, Nonviolent Communication (NVC) is a way of relating to ourselves and others, moment to moment, free of past reactions. By learning to identify your needs and express them powerfully, as well as to bring understanding to the needs of others, you can stay connected to what is alive in you and create a life that it is more fulfilling.

[BROOK]

Originally Posted by Karen

Susan, saying it is a moderator, but not naming them, is something that I object to - causing members to look askance at each member of our small moderating team.
I also object to your very harsh public judgment and chastisement of this very young lad, Jack. I've seen you do that with other forum members and their objections to it. None of us are perfect yet - we all learn or relearn lessons every day.

One of the biggest problems our world faces is a shut-down in communication when human interaction goes wrong. Since I know some inside scoop on this mod issue, that has now become a public matter, I will tell some of what I know that will hopefully help shed some light on both sides of the issue.

If any of you had been following Jack's recent posts, he was trying to steer the forum in a more positive, proactive direction. But like when I was trying to get something going to update the forum guidelines (esp the one about networking with each other when money is involved, but no guidelines have yet been changed) Jack wasn't too successful at getting other mods to back his project, and he suddenly acted on his own with a post to Wayne, the contents of which I have no knowledge. From my perspective and private communications with Jack, I saw that in his youthful exuberance and excitement over the amazing results of his own personal "thinking only positive thoughts" campaign, he lost or missed the ying and the yang balance of the matter, and very much offended Wayne and whoever else Wayne shared that private email with.

Jack took quite a few hits for this mistake/foopah in mod chat. Almost every moderator sent an apology to Wayne for what happened. Now Jack has not joined us in mod chat since this happened, he has not posted on the forum since the 14th and has not signed in to the forum since the afternoon of the 20th. I myself have decided when feeling snubbed or misunderstood - at least a dozen times - that I really aught to not come back here anymore. And when we fall into that "divide" mentality we are ripe to be conquered. Will we choose to evolve or devolve?

I think Jack meant well, thinking he was acting in the highest good for all concerned, he just failed to look at the other side of his PM to Wayne. How many such mistakes did you all make in your teens and early 20's? This reminds me of the Hawaiian healing technique - "I'm so sorry. Please forgive me. I love you."

I hope Wayne and Jack and many others will return and join us once again, but I also know sometimes we just need to move on to other things.

For those that want to see human communication skills evolve, here's a great site:
The Center for Nonviolent Communication
http://www.cnvc.org/

I'll back you on this one...I was privy to this information also...and I know where Jack was coming from...he just wanted a more positive forum...to boost us into the attraction of positive. He ment no harm..just wanted to steer us in that direction.
We that were in the "know" new it was only Jack...but again he ment no harm...I believe Ant know this as well...I think he is only on vacation and will be back...too much is made of this...Sunday is his birthday, and he probably is taking a holiday

[Egg]

It wasn't Jacks place to send a message like that off his own back.

I'm sorry but far too many people here are getting too high and mighty about what can and cannot be posted because they don't like it.

If a poster throws up what they think is a tissue of lies, expose it for what it is and hope they leave. If however the poster is just posting things outside your normal orbit and it breaks no terms and conditions, tough luck - its not your place to say anything, just don't click and read or add anything. I feel too many self appointed censors are at work here on Avalon.

[BROOK]

Originally Posted by Egg

It wasn't Jacks place to send a message like that off his own back.

I'm sorry but far too many people here are getting too high and mighty about what can and cannot be posted because they don't like it.

If a poster throws up what they think is a tissue of lies, expose it for what it is and hope they leave. If however the poster is just posting things outside your normal orbit and it breaks no terms and conditions, tough luck - its not your place to say anything, just don't click and read or add anything. I feel too many self appointed censors are at work here on Avalon.

I agree he should not have suggested it..but I also know it was ment in the best of intentions. Jack is not the sort to be that kind of controlling....he just ment ot bring more POSITIVE to the forum...
But Egg...I agree with the fact that this is a free form forum and should remain such...no censorship ever should take place...

[Humble Janitor]

Originally Posted by Egg

It wasn't Jacks place to send a message like that off his own back.

I'm sorry but far too many people here are getting too high and mighty about what can and cannot be posted because they don't like it.

If a poster throws up what they think is a tissue of lies, expose it for what it is and hope they leave. If however the poster is just posting things outside your normal orbit and it breaks no terms and conditions, tough luck - its not your place to say anything, just don't click and read or add anything. I feel too many self appointed censors are at work here on Avalon.

I have to agree with you. I don't think it's wise to make someone a moderator if they can't stop and think before they say/do things. Even one careless mistake can cost the patronage of a member.

If Jack is indeed in his 20s, then I can understand. When you're young and idealistic, it's easy to turn off others. You have to really step back more and think over how you choose to respond in a situation. It becomes mandatory once you leave your teen years and it sticks with you for the rest of your life. I'm not out of my 20s yet but I've always felt like I was in my 30s or early 40s (spiritually).