Is Smoking good for you?!

nivosh · 04-16-2009, 10:23 AM

Hello.

Recently I have heard that smoking cigarettes has many benefits
to the human body.
Off course I dismissed it as nonsense but when i checked it out on the web
i encountered numerous sites that claim exactly that.
see here: http://www.forces.org/evidence/evid/therap.htm

So, i wanted your opinion.
Is smoking good for you?!
And if all the research that claims smoking is BAD is another conspiracy then why?

avyaktam · 04-16-2009, 10:41 AM

I heard once that people that smoke react less well to mindcontrol.

nagual · 04-16-2009, 11:03 AM

It depends upon what you smoke...

Carmen · 04-16-2009, 11:06 AM

No

Lorien · 04-16-2009, 12:21 PM

Smoking cigarettes is in no way good for you. Any info you find that says otherwise is probably paid for and planted by big tobacco companies.

nivosh · 04-16-2009, 02:19 PM

So, I go back to my question,

If Smoking IS bad For you as we are tought over and over again.

Why the governments of the world declared a war on smoking if they seem to profit so much from it?

Luminari · 04-16-2009, 03:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nivosh

Why the governments of the world declared a war on smoking if they seem to profit so much from it?

Because smokers DIE and then they cant pay TAX

oldpaganfreak · 04-16-2009, 03:27 PM

and they cost A LOT of money in healthcare.
nivosh...did you get this information from the same source that told you that there are no palestinians?

nivosh · 04-16-2009, 05:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by oldpaganfreak

and they cost A LOT of money in healthcare.
nivosh...did you get this information from the same source that told you that there are no palestinians?

Here we go again...

Swanny · 04-16-2009, 06:01 PM

When they release the virus I will take up smoking again

tribe of light · 04-16-2009, 06:19 PM

i think it would be beneficial to differentiate between store-bought 20 cigs/pack and pure tobacco in non-rolled form.

i know if your schizin' out a good dose of nicotine will calm u down and helps to "ground" an individual.

perhaps it would be a good idea to look into why native americans used tobacco for purposes of ceremony vs. the robotic way in which many people now consume store-bought cigarettes like zombies.

is the zombie consumption consciousness to be partially blamed for sickness aside from the detrimental effects of smoking cigarettes?

nivosh · 04-16-2009, 06:27 PM

I LOVE this forum and the people in it!

Puff

Avid · 04-16-2009, 06:30 PM

Er - no!!! I have COPD from mercury poisoning as a child - I've only just found this out! Pinks Disease is due to mercury in teething powders in the late 40's/early 50's. I almost died.
However - the multiple vaccinations babies are now/or have been having lately contained mercury 'preservatives' - hence lots of autism, and very disturbed children.
It's best NOT to smoke if possible, but if you're ill with some nerve generative disease, a little oral 'medication' - not necessarily smoked - will probably be beneficial.
In years gone by, before the FDA 'Big Brother' clampdown, natural remedies included hemp oil - which eliminated cancers et al. The Big Pharma can't patent these things for profit, so hence the clampdowns...
Just like Monsanto and the senator wife of Monsanto 'clamping down' on organic farming/growing your own... a human right.
How sad does it get before WE ALL WAKE UP?

Luminari · 04-17-2009, 12:05 AM

I think smoking is a sign of low intelligence... sorry if anyone here is a smoker.

I dont even want to be friends with people who smoke I find it that repulsive.

I cant believe so many people still smoke... what do they get out of it?? They
look like fools, smell rancid, and waste alot of money and time which is even more precious.

Maybe I could understand if they were chocolate flavoured or something but they taste like ASS.

Slow-motion SUICIDE is all it is.

Orion11 · 04-17-2009, 12:27 AM

Quote:

I think smoking is a sign of low intelligence.

lol, tell that to Dr. Carl Sagan.

lol

Luminari · 04-17-2009, 01:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Orion11

lol, tell that to Dr. Carl Sagan.

lol

Ha! Sagan wasted all that time supposedly looking for alien life in the distant stars when they were here visiting the whole time, he could have gone into his backyard with a pair of binoculars and an open mind.. at the right time of course.

A great example of how a university education can make you less intelligent.

Ive read 'Cosmos' and watched his videos, I do have some respect for the guy, don't get me wrong.

Luminari · 04-17-2009, 01:58 AM

Kathleen you are obviously a smoker then.

Do not be offended, I never said it was a 'fact' but it is 'my truth' based on the premise that anyone inhaling deadly gas into their body can't be that intelligent.

Maybe I should have said 'Wise' instead (or am I digging a bigger hole here).

OK SMOKERS YOU WIN, YOU ARE GENIUS'S LIKE EINSTEIN, FEEL BETTER NOW?

I hope you can get past my aversion to smokers and still be cyber-mates

Christo888 · 04-17-2009, 02:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Luminari

Kathleen you are obviously a smoker then.

Do not be offended, I never said it was a 'fact' but it is 'my truth' based on the premise that anyone inhaling deadly gas into their body can't be that intelligent.

Maybe I should have said 'Wise' instead (or am I digging a bigger hole here).

OK SMOKERS YOU WIN, YOU ARE GENIUS'S LIKE EINSTEIN, FEEL BETTER NOW?

I hope you can get past my aversion to smokers and still be cyber-mates

OK Luminari you are the perfect one to ask this... what 'chord' in you is struck when you encounter a smoker or see it?

Luminari · 04-18-2009, 07:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Christo888

OK Luminari you are the perfect one to ask this... what 'chord' in you is struck when you encounter a smoker or see it?

Im sorry im not sure what you mean christo

as a musician I tend to take the word chord literaly.

If you mean emotion.. isnt it clear from my existing posts on this thread?

peace

BROOK · 04-18-2009, 07:28 AM

Seriously...anyone who really believes cigarettes are good for you has got to be deluding themselves....

Our body was not meant to be abused by such chemicals...God only knows what they put in the tobacco...

Dantheman62 · 04-18-2009, 07:33 AM

Hey BROOK did you see my post above with old cigarette commercials?
They make it sound so good, LOL

BROOK · 04-18-2009, 07:35 AM

Yep..they make it sexie

Christo888 · 04-18-2009, 08:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Luminari

Im sorry im not sure what you mean christo

as a musician I tend to take the word chord literaly.

If you mean emotion.. isnt it clear from my existing posts on this thread?

peace

A musician... awesome. Chord, note, tone, tuned-in.

Yes... your posts are very clear, on que. I was just curious why you were so outspoken about it and what 'chord' it struck; an ex-smoker yourself perhaps.

Swanny · 04-18-2009, 09:44 AM

Hey what's wrong with whistlers????

paul1972 · 04-18-2009, 10:21 AM

here's a shorted list with stuff found in a cigarette from the brand "Natural American Spirit" ( by using a Hulda Clark syncrometer):

Cadmium, Clorex, Arsenic, Retenone, Mercury, Platinum, Benzene, Nickel , Copper, Patulin, Aflatoxin, Dysprosium, Thulium, Malonic Acid.

If your body can't get rid of these toxics, obviously your body will get very sick in the long run.

Cancers are caused by a parasite and they like to settle in places like smokers lungs, so if you don't get rid of the parasites there's a big chance of getting cancer (according to Hulda Clark).

Use a Hulda Clark Zapper, Rife machine or MMS to kill the buggers and get rid of toxins in your body and you'll be fine..

04-16-2009, 10:23 AM	#1
nivosh Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Israel Posts: 65	Is Smoking good for you?! Hello. Recently I have heard that smoking cigarettes has many benefits to the human body. Off course I dismissed it as nonsense but when i checked it out on the web i encountered numerous sites that claim exactly that. see here: http://www.forces.org/evidence/evid/therap.htm So, i wanted your opinion. Is smoking good for you?! And if all the research that claims smoking is BAD is another conspiracy then why?

04-16-2009, 10:41 AM	#2
avyaktam Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Auroville, India Posts: 268	Re: Is Smoking good for you?! I heard once that people that smoke react less well to mindcontrol.

04-16-2009, 11:03 AM	#3
nagual Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Europe Posts: 206	Re: Is Smoking good for you?! It depends upon what you smoke...

04-16-2009, 11:06 AM	#4
Carmen Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: New Zealand Posts: 992	Re: Is Smoking good for you?! No

04-16-2009, 12:21 PM	#5
Lorien Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Beyond the rim.... Posts: 412	Re: Is Smoking good for you?! Smoking cigarettes is in no way good for you. Any info you find that says otherwise is probably paid for and planted by big tobacco companies.

04-16-2009, 02:19 PM	#6
nivosh Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Israel Posts: 65	Re: Is Smoking good for you?! So, I go back to my question, If Smoking IS bad For you as we are tought over and over again. Why the governments of the world declared a war on smoking if they seem to profit so much from it?

04-16-2009, 03:27 PM	#8
oldpaganfreak Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: great northern boreal forest Posts: 440	Re: Is Smoking good for you?! and they cost A LOT of money in healthcare. nivosh...did you get this information from the same source that told you that there are no palestinians?

04-16-2009, 06:01 PM	#10
Swanny I dont need a label ! Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: The Shire of Wilt Posts: 2,889	Re: Is Smoking good for you?! When they release the virus I will take up smoking again

04-16-2009, 06:19 PM	#11
tribe of light Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 56	Re: Is Smoking good for you?! i think it would be beneficial to differentiate between store-bought 20 cigs/pack and pure tobacco in non-rolled form. i know if your schizin' out a good dose of nicotine will calm u down and helps to "ground" an individual. perhaps it would be a good idea to look into why native americans used tobacco for purposes of ceremony vs. the robotic way in which many people now consume store-bought cigarettes like zombies. is the zombie consumption consciousness to be partially blamed for sickness aside from the detrimental effects of smoking cigarettes?

04-16-2009, 06:27 PM	#12
nivosh Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Israel Posts: 65	Re: Is Smoking good for you?! I LOVE this forum and the people in it! Puff Puff

04-16-2009, 06:30 PM	#13
Avid Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: UK Posts: 660	Re: Is Smoking good for you?! Er - no!!! I have COPD from mercury poisoning as a child - I've only just found this out! Pinks Disease is due to mercury in teething powders in the late 40's/early 50's. I almost died. However - the multiple vaccinations babies are now/or have been having lately contained mercury 'preservatives' - hence lots of autism, and very disturbed children. It's best NOT to smoke if possible, but if you're ill with some nerve generative disease, a little oral 'medication' - not necessarily smoked - will probably be beneficial. In years gone by, before the FDA 'Big Brother' clampdown, natural remedies included hemp oil - which eliminated cancers et al. The Big Pharma can't patent these things for profit, so hence the clampdowns... Just like Monsanto and the senator wife of Monsanto 'clamping down' on organic farming/growing your own... a human right. How sad does it get before WE ALL WAKE UP?

04-17-2009, 12:05 AM	#14
Luminari Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Australia Posts: 2,570	Re: Is Smoking good for you?! I think smoking is a sign of low intelligence... sorry if anyone here is a smoker. I dont even want to be friends with people who smoke I find it that repulsive. I cant believe so many people still smoke... what do they get out of it?? They look like fools, smell rancid, and waste alot of money and time which is even more precious. Maybe I could understand if they were chocolate flavoured or something but they taste like ASS. Slow-motion SUICIDE is all it is. Last edited by Luminari; 04-17-2009 at 12:09 AM.

04-17-2009, 01:58 AM	#17
Luminari Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Australia Posts: 2,570	Re: Is Smoking good for you?! Kathleen you are obviously a smoker then. Do not be offended, I never said it was a 'fact' but it is 'my truth' based on the premise that anyone inhaling deadly gas into their body can't be that intelligent. Maybe I should have said 'Wise' instead (or am I digging a bigger hole here). OK SMOKERS YOU WIN, YOU ARE GENIUS'S LIKE EINSTEIN, FEEL BETTER NOW? I hope you can get past my aversion to smokers and still be cyber-mates Last edited by Luminari; 04-17-2009 at 02:20 AM.

04-18-2009, 07:28 AM	#20
BROOK Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 3,117	Re: Is Smoking good for you?! Seriously...anyone who really believes cigarettes are good for you has got to be deluding themselves.... Our body was not meant to be abused by such chemicals...God only knows what they put in the tobacco...

04-18-2009, 07:33 AM	#21
Dantheman62 Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: So. Cal. U.S. Posts: 4,205	Re: Is Smoking good for you?! Hey BROOK did you see my post above with old cigarette commercials? They make it sound so good, LOL

04-18-2009, 07:35 AM	#22
BROOK Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 3,117	Re: Is Smoking good for you?! Yep..they make it sexie

04-18-2009, 09:44 AM	#24
Swanny I dont need a label ! Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: The Shire of Wilt Posts: 2,889	Re: Is Smoking good for you?! Hey what's wrong with whistlers????

04-18-2009, 10:21 AM	#25
paul1972 Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: netherlands Posts: 20	Re: Is Smoking good for you?! here's a shorted list with stuff found in a cigarette from the brand "Natural American Spirit" ( by using a Hulda Clark syncrometer): Cadmium, Clorex, Arsenic, Retenone, Mercury, Platinum, Benzene, Nickel , Copper, Patulin, Aflatoxin, Dysprosium, Thulium, Malonic Acid. If your body can't get rid of these toxics, obviously your body will get very sick in the long run. Cancers are caused by a parasite and they like to settle in places like smokers lungs, so if you don't get rid of the parasites there's a big chance of getting cancer (according to Hulda Clark). Use a Hulda Clark Zapper, Rife machine or MMS to kill the buggers and get rid of toxins in your body and you'll be fine..