Calling All Stations

Czymra · 04-13-2009, 01:17 AM

More and more names seem to slowly ebb away and yes, it does feel lonely at times. Interestingly, it doesn't seem like there is a similar influx of new names. Now I don't have the statistics on this, but either new registrations are terribly quiet or there is something up.

Now you've stuck around, lost your faith or slowly submerged... or you're simply lurking for whatever reason.
Whatever it is, report back to base and let us know what's up.
Personal business, lack of time, wrong threads, wrong attitude? I'm curious.

Let Avalon know.

Dantheman62 · 04-13-2009, 01:31 AM

hmmm, could there be a hidden agenda?, could there be a new direction coming? hmmm

04-13-2009, 01:53 AM

The ground crew is a myth. This is a debaters, tall tales,
and liars society. All that is missing is the beer.

I come here to kill time while we pay off the house, and
chat on occasion with the handful of folks who are actually
doing something. It will last until the net goes dark or my
membership runs out.

Dantheman62 · 04-13-2009, 02:12 AM

Also it seems a long time member was told to, hmmm how should I put this, "cease" posting so much!

BROOK · 04-13-2009, 02:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dantheman62

Also it seems a long time member was told to, hmmm how should I put this, "cease" posting so much!

That would be a shame...freedom of expression is the beauty of this forum

Dantheman62 · 04-13-2009, 02:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BROOK

That would be a shame...freedom of expression is the beauty of this forum

Yeah and he's feeling really low right now too!
I'm actually lucky because my plans are made. I didn't come here to get into a groundcrew. I came here to learn as much as possible. I already know how to survive, so I came here to learn about all the other stuff which I knew nothing about any of it 8 months ago!
After now reading 4 books, which I got out of the Avalon library, and watching 100's of videos, I've learned more in the last 8 months than in the last 8 years!
So I come here now to just stay up on all the recent happenings.

Luana · 04-13-2009, 02:42 AM

Baggy that is so funny you made me come out of my closet.

Hi everyone, I'm usually here lurking.

Ok time to go back in...

Carmen · 04-13-2009, 02:49 AM

Well, my groundcrew plans are well in hand, and I sure as hell don't lie!!!. I came here to learn more survival stuff and meet like-minded people. Avalon has more than met my expectations. I get a bit frustrated at the doom and gloom stuff and have a rant sometimes, but that passes and I read some some great posts here and great threads.

Cheers

Carmen

oldpaganfreak · 04-13-2009, 03:21 AM

i pop in most days to check it out.
groundcrew is out of the question for me, due to my location. haven't found anyone on here with several hundred miles.
i was sponsored here, so it'll expire sometime, not sure when.
i think it really stupid that there is a subscripthion anyways.
the reason we were given was to pay for more interviews and fabulous insights, which seem rather lacking. avalon is no different than astrovera anymore, except astrovera has more lively debates and discussions. i pick up some gems from both of them, and a lot of b**ls**t as well. there are some rather vivid imaginations 'out there' (double meaning intended)

Lunaris · 04-13-2009, 03:27 AM

i shouldn't 'be here' right now but i just finished emailing you tons of stuff!

(xoxoxooxoxoxoxooxoo)

YOU ARE RAD!

hugs

j

Lunaris · 04-13-2009, 03:32 AM

And .....

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO......

I WILL NOT BE STAYIN AROUND...

BUT NOW YOU KNOW AND I KNOW AND ALL IS

LIGHT.

YEAH YEAH!

BROOK · 04-13-2009, 03:45 AM

Baggy....you are right....and your posts have been missed for quite some time....are you saying that you quit because there were those who disagreed?
Or are you saying you were asked to stop posting negative posts.

I for one have been telling my friends at work about the state of the world and 911
I've been behind the 911 is an inside job from the beginning. and telling all I know without hesitation.
I have a victory garden...all though I'm having a problem with the broccoli
And the one you refer to is the very person I was talking about...a genuine victim of this awful mess
I too feel your frustration...but there are those of us here who ARE genuine....and do go that extra mile to help others...and get the ball rolling...and are meeting with others to find solutions.....Baggy I feel you

BROOK · 04-13-2009, 04:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lunaris

And .....

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO......

I WILL NOT BE STAYIN AROUND...

BUT NOW YOU KNOW AND I KNOW AND ALL IS

LIGHT.

YEAH YEAH!

Baggy...is this the kind you were speaking about

Tarliam · 04-13-2009, 04:13 AM

i don't know about any of this but id like info on how i can help get community back that's why i joined is to be able to learn and share and meet some people for if things get real bad haven't found them yet but if you are there let me know thank you

BROOK · 04-13-2009, 04:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tarliam

i don't know about any of this but id like info on how i can help get community back that's why i joined is to be able to learn and share and meet some people for if things get real bad haven't found them yet but if you are there let me know thank you

AMEN

Luminari · 04-13-2009, 05:08 AM

Seeing as I have been following Camelot's work with keen interest since day one..

I came here to hopefully network with hundreds of Ufologists from all over the world. Not to talk about gardening.

I am glad to have met all of you, and heard all your various rants. Made some nice friends, you know who you are.

I respect people like you Baggy for standing in your truth and radiating integrity.
I feel all your 'worldly' issues and problems can be resolved in a post-disclosure world using all of the technology at our disposal some being from off-planet sources.. and a spiritual renaissance to totally reform all existing power structures.

Im not asking you to agree with me.

To be honest I really dont want to be here on this Planet, it absolutely repulses me, the human aspect not the natural. But seeing as I am here temporarily.. I may as well help look for solutions with you guys, as nauseating as it can be sometimes on this forum.

I think the subscription should be lifted before the titanic sinks..
Get the t-shirts or whatever organised B + K and encourage donation instead.
It wouldn't hurt to drop in and say hi now and again either.. whats up with that?
There is no legit excuse for the lack of decorum, the internet is global.. cyber cafes everywhere. We are your support base and friends. Not just a cash cow.

Over and out.

Carol · 04-13-2009, 06:36 AM

I've connected with some folks from Avalon and was not happy with what happened. I'm now of the opinion that family and close friends.. or those in the neighborhood works better then strangers. Some of this is based on the reality that there may be one type of personality on the internet and something else again in real life.

I've repeatedly said that the focus needs to be on doing what one can do now while there is the grid and internet. Having made 3 major relocations in the past 10 years all I have to say is starting over from scratch is time-consuming - especially when building new relationships.

Our focus is getting our land productive with fruit trees and the aquaponics system built and producing.

burgundia · 04-13-2009, 07:47 AM

Paid subscription is becoming a nuisance to me too, but when I think how much negativity there was here before, I think: let's keep it the way it is. There are ebbs and tides here like in the ocean, so i guess it is normal. It is getting warmer now, summer is coming in the northern hemisphere and people are spending more time outside instead in front of the computer. many of us have gained so much knowledge and new information that don't have to peek in too often. There isn't much new stuff, we have read, seen and heard most of it. We have shared our opinions with one another, know one another to a certain degree. or maybe we are quietely waiting for something big, whatever it will be....because we are yearning for a change.

Dominic · 04-13-2009, 08:44 AM

CQ, CQ I hear you loud and clear. I recently got my ham radio license. I have a station set up on solar power too. I am here for the long haul. My connections that I have made thru here are great and the ground crew I have formed is just great. We have plans and Things will crumble around us and we will walk thru the dust hand in hand.

Chamma · 04-13-2009, 09:42 AM

hi i am just lurking around

Czymra · 04-13-2009, 11:55 AM

Now I appreciate all that posted here, but I feel more and more like Baggy. I have in no way means to garden or run for mayor, because I'm not in my own country and I have no intent of staying, I'm counting down the days till I leave with my backpack that has hopefully most of the basics to survive without society (apart from that pocket food generator, darn!).

What I really want to know is why there aren't any other undertakings like the Nexus thingy but on a physical level.
I'm not thinking about "let's spread the word that aliens are real and all is effed and you need to wake up". That doesn't work, we know that.

But surely there are other things a displaced community of people like this can be good for! The ground crew obviously is a lucky bet, either there are people close or not. I've made friends here, and good ones at that, and once I'm back in Germany this might just about be something, but hey there's more potential here, it just gets smoldered by all the freakout news and articles.
I've been here since November I think, have posted and learned so much and that I'm very thankful for, but seriously, it's been weeks and months now that I haven't heard anything 'new'. The only thing that's left is starting to study the details, which I simply won't do without having a 'plan' or intent for them.

Something that's been bothering me is that Free Energy is hardly ever mentioned on here. I never figured out whether it's real and usable or not.
Be that as it may, I'm after ideas... ideas as to how to do something productive with the group of people here that are actually all willing to act somehow, but never got the chance.
Any ideas?

Chamma · 04-13-2009, 02:04 PM

i dont know czym,it seems baggy is indeed on to something...

as i see it you have ppl who are allready relocated(they have the funds to do so aswell)

for the rest...i dont have a clue really

i mean where should one go? how to sustain yourself etc?

Lorien · 04-13-2009, 09:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chamma

i dont know czym,it seems baggy is indeed on to something...

as i see it you have ppl who are allready relocated(they have the funds to do so aswell)

for the rest...i dont have a clue really

i mean where should one go? how to sustain yourself etc?

I posed this same question a while back. Suggesting that when s**t hits the fan, we have some safe location that like minded people can all meet up to continue in a new and better way. All I got in response was negativity. I understand that people are worried about themselves and their families first, but what if where your at is in the line of fire so to speak? Then what?

But then on the realistic side we have to look at the fact that we are all spread out over the globe, most with no means to relocate due to money or other reasons. Sadly I think most of us will be on our own in the coming months, at least in the real world. We should all be comforted in the fact that we have a forum such as this that we can turn to for information, support, ideas, and occasionally a good laugh.

I can tell you know if I won the lottery, I would buy land in australia and build a small underground self sustaining community and buy all my friends, family, and anyone interested in such a thing a plane ticket there. Oooohhh... that gives me an idea. We all know that our focused thoughts can effect our world. Why don't we all set up a time frame when we select a set of numbers for a lottery somewhere with a huge jackpot, and for a 2 week time frame we all focus our energies on the location where it is drawn and those particular numbers?

Humble Janitor · 04-13-2009, 04:50 PM

This isn't the first time Avalon has been "cleaned up" and it won't be the last. My apologies if I contributed directly or indirectly to the sidetracking of it's original mission.

While I love the idea of ground crews, there are logistical issues that stand in the way of me joining one and I simply would rather do this with friends and family than strangers who I may or may not be able to trust. I'm a strong believer in that when the time comes, one will know what to do. We have it built into ourselves. It's our survival instinct.

Czymra · 04-13-2009, 05:37 PM

Thanks for all your input so far. It seems indeed as if most opinions uttered here are the ones I suspect are present all throughout the board and I understand each of them.

I haven't opened this thread to criticise Avalon or be dismissive of what it has done so far or what it is capable of. I merely hope to motivate to bring about a different kind of conversation that I feel is lacking.

I don't have solutions like this, that's why I think we're all here, and none of us can solve the puzzle alone. What I think is going on so far if I may put it in a slightly romantic way, just to aid the idea: We all go off and do what we always did, but as we come together by the campfire in the evening, we hear great tales of what's possible, the illusion of reality and we're inspired... we also hear a lot of what goes wrong and we all say it's bad and nod and vow to do something about it. Most of us recognise that change starts from within which is great, but it's also an excuse to not do all the things that for example Baggy suggests. Yes, we are supportive of each other, no matter how much fights there are, but it always ends with a clap on the shoulder and a "Cheer up mate."

While that is all good and there is very little to be said against it, I had hoped that when I come together with my friends by the fire, there won't just be a listening to the old jester plays and the dance around the fire, but also some more personal stories of what happened to each throughout the day... what successes of losses there are.
Yes, we share concerns and losses, but I hardly ever hear of successes, and that confuses me. There might be some spiritual endeavours and I'm always glad to hear those, but on a physical plane, it's never a "Check out my garden." Why not? Why not have this kind of encouraging exchange?
I imagine (no I don't know) that if there was a little more of that driving and motivating force that each of us would leave 'the next morning' with the batteries a little more charged and with an attitude more eager to inspire others... which, who knows, might even lead to ground crews.

Let us hear of the ground crew you FOUND, we know about the ignorant who won't even consider the possibility.

04-13-2009, 01:17 AM	#1
Czymra Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Germany Posts: 1,151	Calling All Stations More and more names seem to slowly ebb away and yes, it does feel lonely at times. Interestingly, it doesn't seem like there is a similar influx of new names. Now I don't have the statistics on this, but either new registrations are terribly quiet or there is something up. Now you've stuck around, lost your faith or slowly submerged... or you're simply lurking for whatever reason. Whatever it is, report back to base and let us know what's up. Personal business, lack of time, wrong threads, wrong attitude? I'm curious. Let Avalon know.

04-13-2009, 01:31 AM	#2
Dantheman62 Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: So. Cal. U.S. Posts: 4,205	Re: Calling All Stations hmmm, could there be a hidden agenda?, could there be a new direction coming? hmmm

04-13-2009, 01:53 AM	#3
Baggywrinkle Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Calling All Stations The ground crew is a myth. This is a debaters, tall tales, and liars society. All that is missing is the beer. I come here to kill time while we pay off the house, and chat on occasion with the handful of folks who are actually doing something. It will last until the net goes dark or my membership runs out.

04-13-2009, 02:12 AM	#4
Dantheman62 Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: So. Cal. U.S. Posts: 4,205	Re: Calling All Stations Also it seems a long time member was told to, hmmm how should I put this, "cease" posting so much!

04-13-2009, 02:42 AM	#7
Luana Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 91	Re: Calling All Stations Baggy that is so funny you made me come out of my closet. Hi everyone, I'm usually here lurking. Ok time to go back in...

04-13-2009, 02:49 AM	#8
Carmen Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: New Zealand Posts: 992	Re: Calling All Stations Well, my groundcrew plans are well in hand, and I sure as hell don't lie!!!. I came here to learn more survival stuff and meet like-minded people. Avalon has more than met my expectations. I get a bit frustrated at the doom and gloom stuff and have a rant sometimes, but that passes and I read some some great posts here and great threads. Cheers Carmen

04-13-2009, 03:21 AM	#9
oldpaganfreak Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: great northern boreal forest Posts: 440	Re: Calling All Stations i pop in most days to check it out. groundcrew is out of the question for me, due to my location. haven't found anyone on here with several hundred miles. i was sponsored here, so it'll expire sometime, not sure when. i think it really stupid that there is a subscripthion anyways. the reason we were given was to pay for more interviews and fabulous insights, which seem rather lacking. avalon is no different than astrovera anymore, except astrovera has more lively debates and discussions. i pick up some gems from both of them, and a lot of blst as well. there are some rather vivid imaginations 'out there' (double meaning intended)

04-13-2009, 03:27 AM	#10
Lunaris Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 149	Re: Calling All Stations i shouldn't 'be here' right now but i just finished emailing you tons of stuff! (xoxoxooxoxoxoxooxoo) YOU ARE RAD! hugs j

04-13-2009, 03:32 AM	#11
Lunaris Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 149	Re: Calling All Stations And ..... NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO...... I WILL NOT BE STAYIN AROUND... BUT NOW YOU KNOW AND I KNOW AND ALL IS LIGHT. YEAH YEAH!

04-13-2009, 03:45 AM	#12
BROOK Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 3,117	Re: Calling All Stations Baggy....you are right....and your posts have been missed for quite some time....are you saying that you quit because there were those who disagreed? Or are you saying you were asked to stop posting negative posts. I for one have been telling my friends at work about the state of the world and 911 I've been behind the 911 is an inside job from the beginning. and telling all I know without hesitation. I have a victory garden...all though I'm having a problem with the broccoli And the one you refer to is the very person I was talking about...a genuine victim of this awful mess I too feel your frustration...but there are those of us here who ARE genuine....and do go that extra mile to help others...and get the ball rolling...and are meeting with others to find solutions.....Baggy I feel you

04-13-2009, 04:13 AM	#14
Tarliam Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Indiana Posts: 40	Re: Calling All Stations i don't know about any of this but id like info on how i can help get community back that's why i joined is to be able to learn and share and meet some people for if things get real bad haven't found them yet but if you are there let me know thank you

04-13-2009, 05:08 AM	#16
Luminari Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Australia Posts: 2,570	Re: Calling All Stations Seeing as I have been following Camelot's work with keen interest since day one.. I came here to hopefully network with hundreds of Ufologists from all over the world. Not to talk about gardening. I am glad to have met all of you, and heard all your various rants. Made some nice friends, you know who you are. I respect people like you Baggy for standing in your truth and radiating integrity. I feel all your 'worldly' issues and problems can be resolved in a post-disclosure world using all of the technology at our disposal some being from off-planet sources.. and a spiritual renaissance to totally reform all existing power structures. Im not asking you to agree with me. To be honest I really dont want to be here on this Planet, it absolutely repulses me, the human aspect not the natural. But seeing as I am here temporarily.. I may as well help look for solutions with you guys, as nauseating as it can be sometimes on this forum. I think the subscription should be lifted before the titanic sinks.. Get the t-shirts or whatever organised B + K and encourage donation instead. It wouldn't hurt to drop in and say hi now and again either.. whats up with that? There is no legit excuse for the lack of decorum, the internet is global.. cyber cafes everywhere. We are your support base and friends. Not just a cash cow. Over and out.

04-13-2009, 06:36 AM	#17
Carol Project Avalon Hero Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Big Island, Hawaii Posts: 2,008	Re: Calling All Stations I've connected with some folks from Avalon and was not happy with what happened. I'm now of the opinion that family and close friends.. or those in the neighborhood works better then strangers. Some of this is based on the reality that there may be one type of personality on the internet and something else again in real life. I've repeatedly said that the focus needs to be on doing what one can do now while there is the grid and internet. Having made 3 major relocations in the past 10 years all I have to say is starting over from scratch is time-consuming - especially when building new relationships. Our focus is getting our land productive with fruit trees and the aquaponics system built and producing. __________________ Aloha, thank you, do jeh, toda, arigato, merci, grazie, salamat po, gracias, tack, sukria, danke schoen, kiitos, dank u, mahalo nui loa Images to nourish the spirit: http://mistsofavalon.invisionplus.ne...&showtopic=198 Last edited by Carol; 04-13-2009 at 06:39 AM.

04-13-2009, 07:47 AM	#18
burgundia Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Poland Posts: 3,442	Re: Calling All Stations Paid subscription is becoming a nuisance to me too, but when I think how much negativity there was here before, I think: let's keep it the way it is. There are ebbs and tides here like in the ocean, so i guess it is normal. It is getting warmer now, summer is coming in the northern hemisphere and people are spending more time outside instead in front of the computer. many of us have gained so much knowledge and new information that don't have to peek in too often. There isn't much new stuff, we have read, seen and heard most of it. We have shared our opinions with one another, know one another to a certain degree. or maybe we are quietely waiting for something big, whatever it will be....because we are yearning for a change.

04-13-2009, 08:44 AM	#19
Dominic Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Edgewood, Wa. Posts: 302	Re: Calling All Stations CQ, CQ I hear you loud and clear. I recently got my ham radio license. I have a station set up on solar power too. I am here for the long haul. My connections that I have made thru here are great and the ground crew I have formed is just great. We have plans and Things will crumble around us and we will walk thru the dust hand in hand.

04-13-2009, 09:42 AM	#20
Chamma Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 9	Re: Calling All Stations hi i am just lurking around

04-13-2009, 11:55 AM	#21
Czymra Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Germany Posts: 1,151	Re: Calling All Stations Now I appreciate all that posted here, but I feel more and more like Baggy. I have in no way means to garden or run for mayor, because I'm not in my own country and I have no intent of staying, I'm counting down the days till I leave with my backpack that has hopefully most of the basics to survive without society (apart from that pocket food generator, darn!). What I really want to know is why there aren't any other undertakings like the Nexus thingy but on a physical level. I'm not thinking about "let's spread the word that aliens are real and all is effed and you need to wake up". That doesn't work, we know that. But surely there are other things a displaced community of people like this can be good for! The ground crew obviously is a lucky bet, either there are people close or not. I've made friends here, and good ones at that, and once I'm back in Germany this might just about be something, but hey there's more potential here, it just gets smoldered by all the freakout news and articles. I've been here since November I think, have posted and learned so much and that I'm very thankful for, but seriously, it's been weeks and months now that I haven't heard anything 'new'. The only thing that's left is starting to study the details, which I simply won't do without having a 'plan' or intent for them. Something that's been bothering me is that Free Energy is hardly ever mentioned on here. I never figured out whether it's real and usable or not. Be that as it may, I'm after ideas... ideas as to how to do something productive with the group of people here that are actually all willing to act somehow, but never got the chance. Any ideas?

04-13-2009, 02:04 PM	#22
Chamma Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 9	Re: Calling All Stations i dont know czym,it seems baggy is indeed on to something... as i see it you have ppl who are allready relocated(they have the funds to do so aswell) for the rest...i dont have a clue really i mean where should one go? how to sustain yourself etc?

04-13-2009, 04:50 PM	#24
Humble Janitor Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 3,201	Re: Calling All Stations This isn't the first time Avalon has been "cleaned up" and it won't be the last. My apologies if I contributed directly or indirectly to the sidetracking of it's original mission. While I love the idea of ground crews, there are logistical issues that stand in the way of me joining one and I simply would rather do this with friends and family than strangers who I may or may not be able to trust. I'm a strong believer in that when the time comes, one will know what to do. We have it built into ourselves. It's our survival instinct.

04-13-2009, 05:37 PM	#25
Czymra Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Germany Posts: 1,151	Re: Calling All Stations Thanks for all your input so far. It seems indeed as if most opinions uttered here are the ones I suspect are present all throughout the board and I understand each of them. I haven't opened this thread to criticise Avalon or be dismissive of what it has done so far or what it is capable of. I merely hope to motivate to bring about a different kind of conversation that I feel is lacking. I don't have solutions like this, that's why I think we're all here, and none of us can solve the puzzle alone. What I think is going on so far if I may put it in a slightly romantic way, just to aid the idea: We all go off and do what we always did, but as we come together by the campfire in the evening, we hear great tales of what's possible, the illusion of reality and we're inspired... we also hear a lot of what goes wrong and we all say it's bad and nod and vow to do something about it. Most of us recognise that change starts from within which is great, but it's also an excuse to not do all the things that for example Baggy suggests. Yes, we are supportive of each other, no matter how much fights there are, but it always ends with a clap on the shoulder and a "Cheer up mate." While that is all good and there is very little to be said against it, I had hoped that when I come together with my friends by the fire, there won't just be a listening to the old jester plays and the dance around the fire, but also some more personal stories of what happened to each throughout the day... what successes of losses there are. Yes, we share concerns and losses, but I hardly ever hear of successes, and that confuses me. There might be some spiritual endeavours and I'm always glad to hear those, but on a physical plane, it's never a "Check out my garden." Why not? Why not have this kind of encouraging exchange? I imagine (no I don't know) that if there was a little more of that driving and motivating force that each of us would leave 'the next morning' with the batteries a little more charged and with an attitude more eager to inspire others... which, who knows, might even lead to ground crews. Let us hear of the ground crew you FOUND, we know about the ignorant who won't even consider the possibility.