President Obama DID bow to saudi King - here is proof!

[Egg]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LEUif1--r38

Jumping bones! How the hell are they going to explain the video evidence? there is zero chance of refuting this - Obama bowed to another nations King, and it just happens to be the Saudi King.

A suspicious mind would say he was offering his supplication as an inferior muslim to his superior.

How the powers that be must hate the internet.

[oldpaganfreak]

Originally Posted by Egg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LEUif1--r38

Jumping bones! How the hell are they going to explain the video evidence? there is zero chance of refuting this - Obama bowed to another nations King, and it just happens to be the Saudi King.

A suspicious mind would say he was offering his supplication as an inferior muslim to his superior.

How the powers that be must hate the internet.

this is ridiculous, egg. he was practising etiquette. it is customary to bow to a king or queen. look it up in your emily post, or any vanderbilt books.
he was being polite.

a muslim would not view the saudi king as any superior muslim, but anyone trying to be polite and make a good impression would do the same.

i'm not an obama fan, but the senseless endless criticism is not productive.
criticize important stuff, not nonsense.

[Egg]

When the Obamas met the Queen of England, they didn't follow protocol - Mrs Obama even wrapped her arm behind the Queen. That is against all accepted protocol. Oh and old Barry O didn't bow half as nice to Her Majesty the Queen - she got just a little nod.

So why so dilligent with the Saudi King? I am picking this up because it concerns me.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jhqx2JFYOZw

It also fits with some thing I was told last week that shook me and I am half way through looking at.

[oldpaganfreak]

Originally Posted by Egg

When the Obamas met the Queen of England, they didn't follow protocol - Mrs Obama even wrapped her arm behind the Queen. That is against all accepted protocol. Oh and old Barry O didn't bow half as nice to Her Majesty the Queen - she got just a little nod.

So why so dilligent with the Saudi King? I am picking this up because it concerns me.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jhqx2JFYOZw

It also fits with some thing I was told last week that shook me and I am half way through looking at.

i'm afraid i can't comment on that. protocol would dictate that obama should bend from the waist as he is shaking the queen's hand. and michelle clearly showed herself as boorish, then. she probably slurped her soup too.
i'm not stating that the queen is a 'superior' person, but etiquette is etiquette. in these circles, people should know better.
my original statement stands though. obama should have bowed to the king, as he should have to elizabeth.

[Zeddo]

Originally Posted by oldpaganfreak

this is ridiculous, egg. he was practising etiquette. it is customary to bow to a king or queen. look it up in your emily post, or any vanderbilt books.
he was being polite.

a muslim would not view the saudi king as any superior muslim, but anyone trying to be polite and make a good impression would do the same.

i'm not an obama fan, but the senseless endless criticism is not productive.
criticize important stuff, not nonsense.

The problem is, he didn't bow to the queen. Had he done so I would have agreed with you.

[blastawaycas]

As ever Egg you are absolutley bang on the nail.................yes Obama did show his subservience because as we all know these people are way too polished to drop a grade one bollock like that furthermore he only showed cursery respect to the Queen........................I am interested as to where Egg may be going with this .............it looks like another rock "n" rollocking roller coaster ride................i fear Egg has his sherlock holmes hat on again!!

Go on Egg !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!kindest regards dave caster

[piers2210]

Not sure who briefs the current incumbent of such an important office (and his wife), but he/she really should learn etiquette at the stratospheric level that he (and she) operate at. The guy is clearly making up his own rules as he goes...nuff said.

[oldpaganfreak]

Originally Posted by piers2210

Not sure who briefs the current incumbent of such an important office (and his wife), but he/she really should learn etiquette at the stratospheric level that he (and she) operate at. The guy is clearly making up his own rules as he goes...nuff said.

agreed. i didn't know that he didn't bow to elizabeth. in his position, he hasn't the perogative of chosing when to follow protocol or not. his office demands a knowledge of proper etiquette, or if not, certainly the president has a protocol officer that should be doing his job and informing him.

[Egg]

Piers hit the nail on the head. Mr Barry 'O' is doing what he wants, and not what established etiquette say should be observed.

Consider it a bit of psychological conditioning if you will - people see the POTUS bowing deeply to the house of Saud - yet giving a wee little nod to the Queen of England.

Thats where this is going - the psychological conditioning of the observer not the actor in this little bit of mind programming.

[tone3jaguar]

That is cultural. If he did not bow to him then the King would be offended and your gas bill would go up.

[oldpaganfreak]

Originally Posted by tone3jaguar

That is cultural. If he did not bow to him then the King would be offended and your gas bill would go up.

actually, if your are american, a lot more of your gas comes from canada (alberta),than arabia. following that logic, obama should be bowing to stephen harper.
i gotta admit, though, the very thought gives me the creeps.
harper's a bum.

[burgundia]

people shouldn't bow to anybody. we are all equal.

[Egg]

Originally Posted by burgundia

people shouldn't bow to anybody. we are all equal.

But if your aware of how sub-conciouse signals affect others, you could use this knowledge to plant a small seed of doubt / new thought into an observers mind.

If POTUS bows to the House of Saud, so must I...

[burgundia]

Originally Posted by Egg

But if your aware of how sub-conciouse signals affect others, you could use this knowledge to plant a small seed of doubt / new thought into an observers mind.

If POTUS bows to the House of Saud, so must I...

You are right...I guess I am immune to such signals and that's good.

[Egg]

Originally Posted by burgundia

You are right...I guess I am immune to such signals and that's good.

As long as you know the gane and the rules Burg, you can be immune to almost anything.

[burgundia]

Originally Posted by Egg

As long as you know the gane and the rules Burg, you can be immune to almost anything.

I guess I'm learning....thanks to all people at avalon.

[Humble Janitor]

Are we really THAT paranoid that we must interpret everything we see as suspicious?

Best wishes to you Egg as you are one interesting fellow. Perhaps you're bored with knocking down whistleblowers that you're taking a page out of the Alex Jones/Jeff Rense playbook?

[burgundia]

Originally Posted by Humble Janitor

Are we really THAT paranoid that we must interpret everything we see as suspicious?

Best wishes to you Egg as you are one interesting fellow. Perhaps you're bored with knocking down whistleblowers that you're taking a page out of the Alex Jones/Jeff Rense playbook?

It looks like you can't be objective. Anything that doesn't agree with your way of thinking is wrong, paranoid,etc. You are pro-Obama, anty-Catholic, left wing in your political beliefs. And that is ok, but you have a tendency to jump on people who see the world differently or have different viewpoints.

[Humble Janitor]

Originally Posted by burgundia

It looks like you can't be objective. Anything that doesn't agree with your way of thinking is wrong, paranoid,etc. You are pro-Obama, anty-Catholic, left wing in your political beliefs. And that is ok, but you have a tendency to jump on people who see the world differently or have different viewpoints.

I can be objective without jumping to the tune of every piece of propaganda put out by Jeff Rense and Alex Jones.

I never said that I was happy with Obama.

The difference is that I choose to avoid being overly-objective.

Also, I'm not anti-Catholic. I'm anti-religion. Period. The Pope and his shenanigans via the Catholic Church irritate me more than actual Catholics.

[burgundia]

Originally Posted by Humble Janitor

I can be objective without jumping to the tune of every piece of propaganda put out by Jeff Rense and Alex Jones.

I never said that I was happy with Obama.

The difference is that I choose to avoid being overly-objective.

Also, I'm not anti-Catholic. I'm anti-religion. Period. The Pope and his shenanigans via the Catholic Church irritate me more than actual Catholics.

I am anti-religion too, i do not like the whole institution of church, vatican, etc, i am idifferent to Obama, if not Obama then somebody else and it makes no difference. Politically i am inclined towards the left side.
You think that rense and Jones is all about propaganda. prehaps you are 100% right, we do not know for sure. However from your posts it looks like you attack( sometimes, not as a rule) people who express their point of view. then it becomes not the exchange of ideas but a table tennis game;attack, defense, attack, defense, attack,etc.

[Humble Janitor]

Originally Posted by burgundia

I am anti-religion too, i do not like the whole institution of church, vatican, etc, i am idifferent to Obama, if not Obama then somebody else and it makes no difference. Politically i am inclined towards the left side.
You think that rense and Jones is all about propaganda. prehaps you are 100% right, we do not know for sure. However from your posts it looks like you attack( sometimes, not as a rule) people who express their point of view. then it becomes not the exchange of ideas but a table tennis game;attack, defense, attack, defense, attack,etc.

I don't see any attack. It's just a disagreement on ideas.

It's much easier to steer clear of any threads involving Obama as they are 99.9% negative and contain nothing that I consider to be of value.

Yes, he's the bogeyman. He's the anti-christ. He'll terk er jerbs. He'll terk er guns. Etc, etc, etc.

Best to have a laugh about it and move on.

[peaceandlove]

O BOW MA

No American President Ever Bowed to a Foreign Leader — Until Now

Sunday, November 15, 2009 11:14 PM

By: Daniel Ruddy

President Obama created a new presidential precedent when he bowed to the Japanese Emperor Akihito and Empress Michiko Saturday.

Continues: http://www.newsmax.com/headlines/oba...mo_code=9133-1

[Humble Janitor]

Originally Posted by peaceandlove

O BOW MA

No American President Ever Bowed to a Foreign Leader — Until Now

Sunday, November 15, 2009 11:14 PM

By: Daniel Ruddy

President Obama created a new presidential precedent when he bowed to the Japanese Emperor Akihito and Empress Michiko Saturday.

Continues: http://www.newsmax.com/headlines/oba...mo_code=9133-1

This is certainly NOT news.

Just more sensationalism meant to get people all stirred up. What's even worse is that people here are promoting it!

[Peace of mind]

It was a thread like this that had me looking for fault in Obama. but all I've came across was inaccurate info or little proof to the many outrageous claims. It's saddening and causes unnessary division amongst the masses.


Poor poor Obama, so many people seem to want him to fail, I wonder why?

If he is a part of TPTB then he probably is unaware of it, or, is being cast out of it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x1C_NWMRs8Q


In any case, I have personally seen Obama bring much needed hope to a lot of people. So, I will continue to support him until I see clear evidence of his so called betrayal. Now, I hardly trust any politician...but IMO, his agenda seems to be about world peace and equality. There are just too many people looking for him to be hardcore, and /or disrespectful to certain countries. Too many people (who are not on the front lines) dictating who and when to attack our brothers and sisters on foreign lands. If they feel so adamant about it, lace up the boots and go die for the cause...

I think kissing the popes ring, and bowing down to any king and queen is a sign of weakness and submission. A simple verbal gesture is well enough to show respect. I can hardly wait for all of these supremacy systems to fall apart. We are all equals and inheritance doesn’t make you more worthy than another. Why people follow this is beyond me. Maybe they need to empower others…

POM

[Egg]

Originally Posted by Humble Janitor

Are we really THAT paranoid that we must interpret everything we see as suspicious?

Best wishes to you Egg as you are one interesting fellow. Perhaps you're bored with knocking down whistleblowers that you're taking a page out of the Alex Jones/Jeff Rense playbook?

The Watcher has 24 hrs grace because he said he will provide some information - So, till that time expires I have said I won't write another thing.

As for Barry O, well, lets just say with over 500 staff, not one of them thought to tell him that his status as POTUS puts him firmly in the public eye, and that alot of folks don't trust him any how so bowing from the waist in such a major manner might be a bad move.

Oh no, he and his advisors knew what they were doing in my humble opinion.