I'm so confused about 2012

Carol · 01-31-2009, 04:30 AM

I just don't know what to do.

On the 2012 thread there is a galactic wave on its way that is going to usher in the golden age of spiritual consciousness.. and for those who have managed to raise their vibrational frequency they may get to exit out an opening to another universe that opens once every 26,000 years and be absorbed back into oneness.

Well I've experienced oneness and even a few upper spiritual heavenly realms and I just don't know if I'm ready to be dissolved back into the ocean of consciousness and give up individuality. After all, I'm just getting into baking a decent loaf of bread and haven't yet painted near the different types of paintings I would like to paint, or compose the music that stirs my heart, or sing all the songs that give me chicken skin, let along plant my aquaponics garden. I've so much left to do, to learn, to experience.

And then there are those who have told me I'm an old, old soul. Well, I do have some very vivid memories of a few past lives so that may be true.. yet I feel like I'm just on the cusp of this great adventure so I'm just not so sure what I want to do. I'm confused. Do I stay behind... willingly, irrespective of the challenges that life presents on a regular basis.

I know I should meditate more, do more spiritual practices and those sort of things but somehow my life seems to be spent on organizing stuff... my daughter's stuff, my husband's stuff, other's stuff, the animals stuff... lots and lots of stuff. Basically, it seems my job is to bring order to the chaos that surrounds me. Now somehow that does seem very worthwhile and well within god's plan. However, I did almost leave to go back to my spiritual home a few times during a few NDE. Yet, after getting a glimps of the chaos that would ensue if I no longer existed in this earthly world I made a commitment to stick it out here for the long haul for my family.

One cannot possibly imagine what would happen to this house if I were not here to sort out stuff. There would be no pathway to the front door or through the bedrooms. One would incur bodily damage in the process of traversing from one end of the house to the other. And as brilliant as my family is as individuals they do tend to be oblivious to their stuff and putting it back where it belongs.

I'm so confused... do I miss out on the galactic wave exodus and wait another 26,000 years for the next wave and incur countless more lifetimes.. or bust out of this pop stand and hope the family tags along?

Please advise.

Meanwhile, I'm buying seeds and windup flashlights and latterns.

orthodoxymoron · 01-31-2009, 05:02 AM

What if our destiny is to keep getting recycled back into earth society...whether we are good or bad...or 55% positive or 55% negative...or regardless of the frequency we are vibrating at...or whatever? What if this really is home? What if all human beings and human souls are our brothers and sisters? However, I envision all of us interacting with the rest of the universe when we finally grow up here on earth...and kick the malevolent aliens and entities into deep space.

Is there an exhaustive collection of all the theories concerning 2012? What is the educated concensus regarding what, if anything, is likely to happen in 2012?

BROOK · 01-31-2009, 05:09 AM

I believe our creator gave us the free will to come here and experience the beauty of this world. There will be plenty of time to experience the ascension. But right here, and right now is the time to create the natural beauty of this world and this life.

Giovonni and I have been sharing some great opera form Luciano Pavarotti and Andrea Bocelli...it reminds me of the great beauty we can create as humans on this planet.. in this world.
We came here to create...lets start creating what we came here for..the rest will come naturally

Pavarotti....experience it

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d_mLF...eature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2uYrm...eature=related

Jonathon · 01-31-2009, 05:26 AM

I feel you Carol, but do not despair. Every end is a new beginning.

My understanding and point of resonance with the various materials and sources I follow is that YOU get the choice during the transition (post-ascension) whether to graduate to 4th+ density or to stay in 3rd density. It may not be on this planet or under similar circumstances, but rest assured your evolution will continue like clockwork - and you get to determine the type and level of experience in your next incarnation. There is nothing to fear. All is well. Follow your heart and live every day to its fullest.

777 The Great Work · 01-31-2009, 05:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Carol

I just don't know what to do.

On the 2012 thread there is a galactic wave on its way that is going to usher in the golden age of spiritual consciousness.. and for those who have managed to raise their vibrational frequency they may get to exit out an opening to another universe that opens once every 26,000 years and be absorbed back into oneness.

Well I've experienced oneness and even a few upper spiritual heavenly realms and I just don't know if I'm ready to be dissolved back into the ocean of consciousness and give up individuality. After all, I'm just getting into baking a decent loaf of bread and haven't yet painted near the different types of paintings I would like to paint, or compose the music that stirs my heart, or sing all the songs that give me chicken skin, let along plant my aquaponics garden. I've so much left to do, to learn, to experience.

And then there are those who have told me I'm an old, old soul. Well, I do have some very vivid memories of a few past lives so that may be true.. yet I feel like I'm just on the cusp of this great adventure so I'm just not so sure what I want to do. I'm confused. Do I stay behind... willingly, irrespective of the challenges that life presents on a regular basis.

I know I should meditate more, do more spiritual practices and those sort of things but somehow my life seems to be spent on organizing stuff... my daughter's stuff, my husband's stuff, other's stuff, the animals stuff... lots and lots of stuff. Basically, it seems my job is to bring order to the chaos that surrounds me. Now somehow that does seem very worthwhile and well within god's plan. However, I did almost leave to go back to my spiritual home a few times during a few NDE. Yet, after getting a glimps of the chaos that would ensue if I no longer existed in this earthly world I made a commitment to stick it out here for the long haul for my family.

One cannot possibly imagine what would happen to this house if I were not here to sort out stuff. There would be no pathway to the front door or through the bedrooms. One would incur bodily damage in the process of traversing from one end of the house to the other. And as brilliant as my family is as individuals they do tend to be oblivious to their stuff and putting it back where it belongs.

I'm so confused... do I miss out on the galactic wave exodus and wait another 26,000 years for the next wave and incur countless more lifetimes.. or bust out of this pop stand and hope the family tags along?

Please advise.

Meanwhile, I'm buying seeds and windup flashlights and latterns.

The wave is hear now and individuality is oneness.

Carol · 01-31-2009, 05:39 AM

Ahhh, but do we get to bake bread and eat it hot dripping with butter in the 4th dimension?

Alas Brook, you have discovered my inner weakness.. good music and beauty.

BROOK · 01-31-2009, 05:41 AM

Fresh baked bread.....one of the great beauties in life...experience it now....that is what we came her for...to create, and experience

oldpaganfreak · 01-31-2009, 05:47 AM

amen...pass the butter, please!

777 The Great Work · 01-31-2009, 05:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Carol

Ahhh, but do we get to bake bread and eat it hot dripping with butter in the 4th dimension?

Alas Brook, you have discovered my inner weakness.. good music and beauty.

We become the bread and wine that feeds the multitude. Beyond the veil is better then bread and honey, don't you remember.

just a small taste

BROOK · 01-31-2009, 06:39 AM

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Originally Posted by 777 The Great Work

We become the bread and wine that feeds the multitude. Beyond the veil is better then bread and honey, don't you remember.

just a small taste

So true... we take back that which we experience here, the wisdom and beauty makes us all the more colorful and we expand the universe.

Carol · 01-31-2009, 06:44 AM

bliss is lovely... however, fresh baked bread is bliss too.

BROOK · 01-31-2009, 06:49 AM

This....and Pavarotti are bliss

mu2143 · 01-31-2009, 07:23 AM

Btw where allready in th 4th density and the frequency is increasing till just one day it wil move instantly to the 5th.

because not everone willing to wake up, they are not goining to survive what's coming.

kari · 01-31-2009, 09:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Carol

bliss is lovely... however, fresh baked bread is bliss too.

Hi Carol,you can add kiitos to your "thank you" list,it is thank you in Finnish,as for your concern of what will happen in 2012 or when our jorney continues in our afterlife,i think we don`t have to do anything to prepare for that,and why i think in those terms is the following

n earth there are billions of people and only a few know or have an idea of what is coming,but what about the rest of the people that live here? Think about it,not many have access to the information that is on the internet,people with no money,computers or who don`t even have the possibility to go to school,they would all be left behind?No i don`t think so,it`s like if it would be "only the elit" is going to graduate,and the rest will be left behind.
I belive that if you are a good person,helpful,loving and think of others(it does not mean you should forget yourself) you are qualified to go on.
We can if we choose to, help people in need,and to do that without the thought"what`s in it for me" but because we feel in our hearts that it is and it feels good to do a good deed.
It`s a everyday thing that we do,keep the door open to old people,to young people,to anybody that needs a helping hand,it can`t be a trip only for the peolpe with knowledge and money for if that is the case, i wouldn`t bother to go,because then it would be the same as it is now, and we would all be in the same **** as we are in today. Don`t worry to much,just be yourself and live your life,do what you feel is right and enjoy your life.
Kari

orthodoxymoron · 02-02-2009, 10:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kari

Hi Carol,you can add kiitos to your "thank you" list,it is thank you in Finnish,as for your concern of what will happen in 2012 or when our jorney continues in our afterlife,i think we don`t have to do anything to prepare for that,and why i think in those terms is the following

n earth there are billions of people and only a few know or have an idea of what is coming,but what about the rest of the people that live here? Think about it,not many have access to the information that is on the internet,people with no money,computers or who don`t even have the possibility to go to school,they would all be left behind?No i don`t think so,it`s like if it would be "only the elit" is going to graduate,and the rest will be left behind.
I belive that if you are a good person,helpful,loving and think of others(it does not mean you should forget yourself) you are qualified to go on.
We can if we choose to, help people in need,and to do that without the thought"what`s in it for me" but because we feel in our hearts that it is and it feels good to do a good deed.
It`s a everyday thing that we do,keep the door open to old people,to young people,to anybody that needs a helping hand,it can`t be a trip only for the peolpe with knowledge and money for if that is the case, i wouldn`t bother to go,because then it would be the same as it is now, and we would all be in the same **** as we are in today. Don`t worry to much,just be yourself and live your life,do what you feel is right and enjoy your life.
Kari

I agree with you. It is possible to fall into a 'master-race' trap where only the 'special-people' make it. While I believe in the pursuit of the highest ethical and spiritual levels...this should be for the elevation of the entire human-race...not just ME! From my religious upbringing...there is a quote which I have been unable to forget: 'Those whom Christ commends in the judgment may have known little of theology, but they have cherished His principles. Through the influence of the divine Spirit they have been a blessing to those about them. Even among the heathen are those who have cherished the spirit of kindness; before the words of life had fallen upon their ears, they have befriended the missionaries, even ministering to them at the peril of their own lives. Among the heathen are those who worship God ignorantly, those to whom the light is never brought by human instrumentality, yet they will not perish. Though ignorant of the written law of God, they have heard His voice speaking to them in nature, and have done the things that the law required. Their works are evidence that the Holy Spirit has touched their hearts, and they are recognized as the children of God. How surprised and gladdened will be the lowly among the nations, and among the heathen, to hear from the lips of the Saviour, "Inasmuch as you did it to one of the least of these My brethren, you did it to Me." How glad will be the heart of Infinite Love as His followers look up with surprise and joy at His words of approval!'--Desire of Ages, pg. 686 by Ellen White.

sammytray · 02-02-2009, 11:37 PM

Maybe the REAL 2012 is not until 2017... then what???? More time for bread??

piers2210 · 02-03-2009, 01:20 AM

Hey Ortho, one small "proviso" to your statement about the "elevation of the entire human race".....

you can't take with you those people that choose positively not to go....and there are lots of them.

Most people still don't know that there is a cosmic plan for earth awakening, and if they did, they sure as hell wouldn't want to leave behind their worlds of ego, domination, greed, corruption, abuse of others etc etc....I suggest that these types are positively LEFT BEHIND.....!!!

Atb, Piers

futureyes · 02-03-2009, 01:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by piers2210

Hey Ortho, one small "proviso" to your statement about the "elevation of the entire human race".....

you can't take with you those people that choose positively not to go....and there are lots of them.

Most people still don't know that there is a cosmic plan for earth awakening, and if they did, they sure as hell wouldn't want to leave behind their worlds of ego, domination, greed, corruption, abuse of others etc etc....I suggest that these types are positively LEFT BEHIND.....!!!

Atb, Piers

and i know many who believe there is no thing wrong with the world as it is today ... that someone is always covering their backs ... that it is those who are saying otherwise that are causing and directing corruption ... causing the disturbance ...

they will remain trapped within their egos ... having no insight of what is illusion and what is not ...

and we must come to respect that ... and i have ...

the focus must remain on moving forward ...

for those that know there is no going backwards ...

alchemikey · 02-05-2009, 12:42 AM

i don't think anyone is completly sure about the next couple years...all i know is that the idea of oneness is spreading like wildfire and is leading towards something...my heart resonates with the law of one material or maybe that was my intellect that so enjoyed the universal spin on things

i trust my dreams the most as they have been guiding my entire life...i have had a dream where the entire sky got very bright and i was ecstatic jumping around yelling 'it's finally here'

i had a similar dream last night where i was talking with a firend about how i wished 2012 would just get here and then the next thing i remember i was lying on the ground looking up at the stars and e.t. from the movie was like floating from star to star and there was this blue expanding ring...i dont know dreams are pretty confusing too

i have many desires left to be experienced...i don't feel like i could ever exhaust them...i could travel the earth my entire life and not experience a fraction of the beauty that is here...not to mention the universe

well we have eternity...let's enjoy our infinite nature

peace,
mikey

alchemikey · 02-05-2009, 01:05 AM

wow...so like after posting my last post i went over to http://www.realitysandwich.com and then clicked on the link about the future of everything:

http://spacecollective.org/

hmm i thought as i looked and played around with this beautiful blue ring

then i enter the site and read:

"where forward thinking terrestrials exchange ideas and information about the state of the species, their planet and the universe, living the lives of science fiction today"

gotta love it,
mikey

pyrangello · 02-05-2009, 12:20 PM

You know I bounce alot of this stuff off of my girlfriend, she doesn't read much of this site but is very spiritual, she always tells me that the changes are not for everyone, even close family members and it when she says that she says that with such conviction and i,m talking about a sweet southern gal from alabama. It kind of blows me away -WE WILL BE O.K. , I think that will apply to many if not all on the avalon site. We are all getting educated and comforted by the interpetations of our thoughts and bouncing them off one another so kind of sort out THE WAYS if you will. It's that knowledge from here that will lead us into anything that is thrown at us not going into it with fear but knowing we will make it thru this .

Last night I looked at the stars before I went to bed, this morning I got up at 5 a.m. and 2 of my 3 dogs got up one by one to say good morning and then went back to sleep. One of the dogs is a rescue dog off the streets, you can see the gratitude of what she has today and I show it back every morning as they watch me go to work. . Yep it's gonna be another good day to pay attention to what matters the most.I love that phrase, worry about yourself and create the light, don't worry about others , they will follow the light when it's time.............................................. .............................

piers2210 · 02-05-2009, 01:38 PM

Because its so good, I'll re-post David Wilcock's latest interview which was originally posted on the Astralwalker thread, about an hour in he really gets going on the 2012 transition....

in summary: basically nothing to worry about, everything's going to be just fine.

I feel confident in what Wilcock says, a convincing speaker.

http://recordings.talkshoe.com/TC-59174/TS-182882.mp3

The interview is about 1 hour 36 mins in total.

burgundia · 02-05-2009, 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by sammytray

Maybe the REAL 2012 is not until 2017... then what???? More time for bread??

That would explain the dream I had last year that I will die in 2017 or 2018. But that message was delivered to me by an unfriendly entity so may be it's not true. It wanted to scare me.

avyaktam · 02-06-2009, 08:18 AM

The concepts of 2012 and ascensension (how do you spell that?) fail to trigger anything in me. The mayan religion never triggered my interest either, but I know they used human sacrifice (just as satanist do today), and I fail to see how something from such an obscure source in the past can be the pivotal information regarding the great spiritual changes that are taking place today.
Also the concept of ascension smells of the same escapatism expressed by Budism and many Indian filosophies; with the motto this world is an illusion get out of it and you are free. I also fail to see any advantage in ascending into the 4th dimension. From what I understand they mean the astral plane with that, well that is a level of existence mainly filled with beings and enteties that are all but spiritual, a very dangerous environment full with traps, illusions and false powers, an environmont that fullfills more the 'needs' of the ego than of the soul. Did we all go through this long and often painful evolution as a kind of school, just for a few souls to graduate and move on? I think the manifestation has a greater purpose that this. For me transformation is the keyword, the One expressing it/him/her self in the multitude more and more, the Kingdom on earth. And who said that the human as we know it now was the last step of the evolution?

Anchor · 02-06-2009, 09:36 AM

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Originally Posted by avyaktam

The concepts of 2012 and ascensension (how do you spell that?) fail to trigger anything in me.

It is really good that you think of it this way, and that you have faith in your personal discrimination abilities is commendable. You can't go far wrong on your path if you keep doing that. Question everything!

I think people think about us humans and forget about the Earth. As I understand it, the Earth is the main player in the show right now.

It is the planet that is guaranteed to ascend at this time - not us specifically - though the opportunity for us to do so is present. At this time, we are merely along for the ride, and if you have a mind to, to help the Earth with her ascension.

Quote:

For me transformation is the keyword, the One expressing it/him/her self in the multitude more and more, the Kingdom on earth. And who said that the human as we know it now was the last step of the evolution?

Follow your heart.

You may be interested to read the Law Of One series - that may offer you some new insights on things.

A..

01-31-2009, 04:30 AM	#1
Carol Project Avalon Hero Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Big Island, Hawaii Posts: 2,008	I'm so confused about 2012 I just don't know what to do. On the 2012 thread there is a galactic wave on its way that is going to usher in the golden age of spiritual consciousness.. and for those who have managed to raise their vibrational frequency they may get to exit out an opening to another universe that opens once every 26,000 years and be absorbed back into oneness. Well I've experienced oneness and even a few upper spiritual heavenly realms and I just don't know if I'm ready to be dissolved back into the ocean of consciousness and give up individuality. After all, I'm just getting into baking a decent loaf of bread and haven't yet painted near the different types of paintings I would like to paint, or compose the music that stirs my heart, or sing all the songs that give me chicken skin, let along plant my aquaponics garden. I've so much left to do, to learn, to experience. And then there are those who have told me I'm an old, old soul. Well, I do have some very vivid memories of a few past lives so that may be true.. yet I feel like I'm just on the cusp of this great adventure so I'm just not so sure what I want to do. I'm confused. Do I stay behind... willingly, irrespective of the challenges that life presents on a regular basis. I know I should meditate more, do more spiritual practices and those sort of things but somehow my life seems to be spent on organizing stuff... my daughter's stuff, my husband's stuff, other's stuff, the animals stuff... lots and lots of stuff. Basically, it seems my job is to bring order to the chaos that surrounds me. Now somehow that does seem very worthwhile and well within god's plan. However, I did almost leave to go back to my spiritual home a few times during a few NDE. Yet, after getting a glimps of the chaos that would ensue if I no longer existed in this earthly world I made a commitment to stick it out here for the long haul for my family. One cannot possibly imagine what would happen to this house if I were not here to sort out stuff. There would be no pathway to the front door or through the bedrooms. One would incur bodily damage in the process of traversing from one end of the house to the other. And as brilliant as my family is as individuals they do tend to be oblivious to their stuff and putting it back where it belongs. I'm so confused... do I miss out on the galactic wave exodus and wait another 26,000 years for the next wave and incur countless more lifetimes.. or bust out of this pop stand and hope the family tags along? Please advise. Meanwhile, I'm buying seeds and windup flashlights and latterns. __________________ Aloha, thank you, do jeh, toda, arigato, merci, grazie, salamat po, gracias, tack, sukria, danke schoen, kiitos, dank u, mahalo nui loa Images to nourish the spirit: http://mistsofavalon.invisionplus.ne...&showtopic=198

01-31-2009, 05:02 AM	#2
orthodoxymoron Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Lunar Base II Posts: 3,093	Re: I'm so confused about 2012 What if our destiny is to keep getting recycled back into earth society...whether we are good or bad...or 55% positive or 55% negative...or regardless of the frequency we are vibrating at...or whatever? What if this really is home? What if all human beings and human souls are our brothers and sisters? However, I envision all of us interacting with the rest of the universe when we finally grow up here on earth...and kick the malevolent aliens and entities into deep space. Is there an exhaustive collection of all the theories concerning 2012? What is the educated concensus regarding what, if anything, is likely to happen in 2012?

01-31-2009, 05:09 AM	#3
BROOK Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 3,117	Re: I'm so confused about 2012 I believe our creator gave us the free will to come here and experience the beauty of this world. There will be plenty of time to experience the ascension. But right here, and right now is the time to create the natural beauty of this world and this life. Giovonni and I have been sharing some great opera form Luciano Pavarotti and Andrea Bocelli...it reminds me of the great beauty we can create as humans on this planet.. in this world. We came here to create...lets start creating what we came here for..the rest will come naturally Pavarotti....experience it http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d_mLF...eature=related http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2uYrm...eature=related

01-31-2009, 05:26 AM	#4
Jonathon Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 208	Re: I'm so confused about 2012 I feel you Carol, but do not despair. Every end is a new beginning. My understanding and point of resonance with the various materials and sources I follow is that YOU get the choice during the transition (post-ascension) whether to graduate to 4th+ density or to stay in 3rd density. It may not be on this planet or under similar circumstances, but rest assured your evolution will continue like clockwork - and you get to determine the type and level of experience in your next incarnation. There is nothing to fear. All is well. Follow your heart and live every day to its fullest.

01-31-2009, 05:39 AM	#6
Carol Project Avalon Hero Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Big Island, Hawaii Posts: 2,008	Re: I'm so confused about 2012 Ahhh, but do we get to bake bread and eat it hot dripping with butter in the 4th dimension? Alas Brook, you have discovered my inner weakness.. good music and beauty. __________________ Aloha, thank you, do jeh, toda, arigato, merci, grazie, salamat po, gracias, tack, sukria, danke schoen, kiitos, dank u, mahalo nui loa Images to nourish the spirit: http://mistsofavalon.invisionplus.ne...&showtopic=198 Last edited by Carol; 01-31-2009 at 05:41 AM.

01-31-2009, 05:41 AM	#7
BROOK Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 3,117	Re: I'm so confused about 2012 Fresh baked bread.....one of the great beauties in life...experience it now....that is what we came her for...to create, and experience

01-31-2009, 05:47 AM	#8
oldpaganfreak Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: great northern boreal forest Posts: 440	Re: I'm so confused about 2012 amen...pass the butter, please!

01-31-2009, 06:44 AM	#11
Carol Project Avalon Hero Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Big Island, Hawaii Posts: 2,008	Re: I'm so confused about 2012 bliss is lovely... however, fresh baked bread is bliss too. __________________ Aloha, thank you, do jeh, toda, arigato, merci, grazie, salamat po, gracias, tack, sukria, danke schoen, kiitos, dank u, mahalo nui loa Images to nourish the spirit: http://mistsofavalon.invisionplus.ne...&showtopic=198

01-31-2009, 06:49 AM	#12
BROOK Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 3,117	Re: I'm so confused about 2012 This....and Pavarotti are bliss

01-31-2009, 07:23 AM	#13
mu2143 Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Holland,Netherlands Posts: 470	Re: I'm so confused about 2012 Btw where allready in th 4th density and the frequency is increasing till just one day it wil move instantly to the 5th. because not everone willing to wake up, they are not goining to survive what's coming.

02-02-2009, 11:37 PM	#16
sammytray Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: OC/CALIFORNIA Posts: 587	Re: I'm so confused about 2012 Maybe the REAL 2012 is not until 2017... then what???? More time for bread??

02-03-2009, 01:20 AM	#17
piers2210 Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 403	Re: I'm so confused about 2012 Hey Ortho, one small "proviso" to your statement about the "elevation of the entire human race"..... you can't take with you those people that choose positively not to go....and there are lots of them. Most people still don't know that there is a cosmic plan for earth awakening, and if they did, they sure as hell wouldn't want to leave behind their worlds of ego, domination, greed, corruption, abuse of others etc etc....I suggest that these types are positively LEFT BEHIND.....!!! Atb, Piers

02-05-2009, 12:42 AM	#19
alchemikey Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: wherever consciousness is Posts: 357	Re: I'm so confused about 2012 i don't think anyone is completly sure about the next couple years...all i know is that the idea of oneness is spreading like wildfire and is leading towards something...my heart resonates with the law of one material or maybe that was my intellect that so enjoyed the universal spin on things i trust my dreams the most as they have been guiding my entire life...i have had a dream where the entire sky got very bright and i was ecstatic jumping around yelling 'it's finally here' i had a similar dream last night where i was talking with a firend about how i wished 2012 would just get here and then the next thing i remember i was lying on the ground looking up at the stars and e.t. from the movie was like floating from star to star and there was this blue expanding ring...i dont know dreams are pretty confusing too i have many desires left to be experienced...i don't feel like i could ever exhaust them...i could travel the earth my entire life and not experience a fraction of the beauty that is here...not to mention the universe well we have eternity...let's enjoy our infinite nature peace, mikey

02-05-2009, 01:05 AM	#20
alchemikey Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: wherever consciousness is Posts: 357	Re: I'm so confused about 2012 wow...so like after posting my last post i went over to http://www.realitysandwich.com and then clicked on the link about the future of everything: http://spacecollective.org/ hmm i thought as i looked and played around with this beautiful blue ring then i enter the site and read: "where forward thinking terrestrials exchange ideas and information about the state of the species, their planet and the universe, living the lives of science fiction today" gotta love it, mikey

02-05-2009, 12:20 PM	#21
pyrangello Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Northern Michigan Posts: 412	Re: I'm so confused about 2012 You know I bounce alot of this stuff off of my girlfriend, she doesn't read much of this site but is very spiritual, she always tells me that the changes are not for everyone, even close family members and it when she says that she says that with such conviction and i,m talking about a sweet southern gal from alabama. It kind of blows me away -WE WILL BE O.K. , I think that will apply to many if not all on the avalon site. We are all getting educated and comforted by the interpetations of our thoughts and bouncing them off one another so kind of sort out THE WAYS if you will. It's that knowledge from here that will lead us into anything that is thrown at us not going into it with fear but knowing we will make it thru this . Last night I looked at the stars before I went to bed, this morning I got up at 5 a.m. and 2 of my 3 dogs got up one by one to say good morning and then went back to sleep. One of the dogs is a rescue dog off the streets, you can see the gratitude of what she has today and I show it back every morning as they watch me go to work. . Yep it's gonna be another good day to pay attention to what matters the most.I love that phrase, worry about yourself and create the light, don't worry about others , they will follow the light when it's time.............................................. .............................

02-05-2009, 01:38 PM	#22
piers2210 Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 403	Re: I'm so confused about 2012 Because its so good, I'll re-post David Wilcock's latest interview which was originally posted on the Astralwalker thread, about an hour in he really gets going on the 2012 transition.... in summary: basically nothing to worry about, everything's going to be just fine. I feel confident in what Wilcock says, a convincing speaker. http://recordings.talkshoe.com/TC-59174/TS-182882.mp3 The interview is about 1 hour 36 mins in total.

02-06-2009, 08:18 AM	#24
avyaktam Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Auroville, India Posts: 268	Re: I'm so confused about 2012 The concepts of 2012 and ascensension (how do you spell that?) fail to trigger anything in me. The mayan religion never triggered my interest either, but I know they used human sacrifice (just as satanist do today), and I fail to see how something from such an obscure source in the past can be the pivotal information regarding the great spiritual changes that are taking place today. Also the concept of ascension smells of the same escapatism expressed by Budism and many Indian filosophies; with the motto this world is an illusion get out of it and you are free. I also fail to see any advantage in ascending into the 4th dimension. From what I understand they mean the astral plane with that, well that is a level of existence mainly filled with beings and enteties that are all but spiritual, a very dangerous environment full with traps, illusions and false powers, an environmont that fullfills more the 'needs' of the ego than of the soul. Did we all go through this long and often painful evolution as a kind of school, just for a few souls to graduate and move on? I think the manifestation has a greater purpose that this. For me transformation is the keyword, the One expressing it/him/her self in the multitude more and more, the Kingdom on earth. And who said that the human as we know it now was the last step of the evolution?