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Old 12-10-2008, 11:43 PM   #1
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I am not sure I can believe everything David Icke says, but I can say one thing, some of his concepts can help people if they adopt them as a concept, and there is no better example in the drama that has happened that might have influenced Kerry to leave the forum.

As a recap, my understanding of what Icke has to say is this. There are a race of beings, possibly 4th dimensional lizard types, that derive benefit from humans when they are upset, cause upset, or spread hate etc. His point is that humans are unaware of the multi-dimensional aspect of their psyche, and that they are broadcasting at all times into other dimensions energy, which is harvested by this races.

Now Icke also asserts that certain people on the planet with a high percentage of DNA that was contributed by this race can be manipulated to cause situations and effect through their actions distress on other humans which in turn feed that race through that energy. This can be done often without the person's knowledge, and sometimes the most innocent of souls can be the victims of the most abuse of others without realizing it.

Icke also asserts that love and support is poison as a energy for this race, and that to broadcast these energies in fact is like poison and causes them to disconnect in a way from the humans who are broadcasting these energies.

Icke also asserts that in a way, when you broadcast love and support, and caring, that you will be tampered with by other humans who without their knowledge will be inspired to cause you grief through their actions or manipulating opinion against you for their benefit. Any negative emotion can be used to feed them, including self doubt. The best analogy for people is if you have seen the movie "The Matrix". Instead of electricity you are being harvested for negative emotion. And when your production drops, you will be shaken up a little.

What I will suggest with that in mind is two things. Small minded people on this forum with criticism, and negative emotions, innocent as they are, are in fact feeding that 4th dimensional race. And Kerry, regardless of her workload reason by reacting is feeding that 4th dimensional race. Everyone here should always focus on only love emotions and deny this race any sustenance from negative energy. And Kerry should simply stay, and not give that race the benefit of a reaction because of the fact that people unaware of their nature were used as pawns to spread negative energy on this important forum.

What I would suggest is if the MODS wish to make a real difference in life, then any poster who infers a negative emotion or intent of another user, causes drama, or a negative energy in anyway without coupling it with a positive emotion, be silenced for a period of one week. There is enough negative energy in this world, lets get this forum on track.

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Old 12-11-2008, 12:04 AM   #2
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Actually, I agree with David Icke about everything EXCEPT the reptilians
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Old 12-11-2008, 12:51 AM   #3
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Infinate love is the only truth everything else is illiusion!
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Old 12-11-2008, 01:14 AM   #4
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I believe all of what David Icke says. Prove him wrong. There are enough tapes out there showing the pupils of the eyes forming as that of a lizard.

You just wrote very negative words and then comdemn anybody else who does?

Do you think we should all just walk around with our heads in a cloud and say what a beautiful life we have?

People need to know and not everyone that comes in here is awake. So what do you think, there is no need for this information to be out there or any other message that is not "happy news" You need to tell the bad in order to show what is going on. Life has never been easy and once you know you are capable of helping others that have questions. Sounds fair to me. I would be still scratching my head if so many wonderful people had not explained what is going on.

You need to stop thinking of yourself and give the people that are just learning a break. I have no idea where I woud be today without the friends I met onine including here.

This is a forumn and should remain one where people can discuss issues, or am I in the wrong place?

Thank you Orb and try to see it from another angle. A person that is just awakening.

Did you see the Brendon Corey story? Sure it gives you fear but to me it also gives me strength.......and trust me, that I need
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Old 12-11-2008, 07:09 AM   #5
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I would like to respond to what you have written, but to honest I am confused as to what you are talking about in how it relates to my post.

I love David Icke's work, and in no way am attacking him, and when I meet a reptilian in person I will then know they exist for sure. My post was directed to some of the people on the forums here who are spreading net drama, which really, we do not need. I am just confused at how you can miss every point in my post.

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Old 12-11-2008, 11:16 AM   #6
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I believe all of what David Icke says. Prove him wrong. There are enough tapes out there showing the pupils of the eyes forming as that of a lizard.

You just wrote very negative words and then comdemn anybody else who does?

Do you think we should all just walk around with our heads in a cloud and say what a beautiful life we have?

People need to know and not everyone that comes in here is awake. So what do you think, there is no need for this information to be out there or any other message that is not "happy news" You need to tell the bad in order to show what is going on. Life has never been easy and once you know you are capable of helping others that have questions. Sounds fair to me. I would be still scratching my head if so many wonderful people had not explained what is going on.

You need to stop thinking of yourself and give the people that are just learning a break. I have no idea where I woud be today without the friends I met onine including here.

This is a forumn and should remain one where people can discuss issues, or am I in the wrong place?

Thank you Orb and try to see it from another angle. A person that is just awakening.

Did you see the Brendon Corey story? Sure it gives you fear but to me it also gives me strength.......and trust me, that I need
Maybe he's replying to me?
If so there's plenty of tapes out there showing people growing horns out of their head, do you believe those too?
It's too easy to mess with these vids and as such they're hardly proof, David Icke has said that he only has witness statements afaik?
The rest of what he says is perfectly valid, however this reptilian thing has really put a blighter on everything he has done, it's a shame tbh as literally everything else he has talked about has some solid evidence for it, plain common sense if anything.
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Old 12-11-2008, 06:09 PM   #7
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- there's plenty of tapes out there showing people growing horns out of their head, do you believe those too?
It's too easy to mess with these vids and as such they're hardly proof, David Icke has said that he only has witness statements afaik?
The rest of what he says is perfectly valid, however this reptilian thing has really put a blighter on everything he has done, it's a shame tbh as literally everything else he has talked about has some solid evidence for it, plain common sense if anything.
Yes, this has really dragged his whole effort down. I guess TPTB sent him Jennifer Green, alias Arizona Wilder. She turned out to be a disinformation agent, and whenever I mention his name, it is her stuff that is always evoked by the other person.

Besides, I think he himself sometimes act as a magnet on negative vibrations. This naturally a danger when you do what he has done for some 20 years or so, he has been out digging in the dung very long and very hard.
His take on the 'sheeple' is a little repetitive, and yes, disrespectful. How do we distinguish between those that live socalled ordinary lives, but are full of love for their families and their fellow man, and those who could'nt care less about either what is going on in the world or in the lives of the people that are close to them?

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Old 12-11-2008, 06:25 PM   #8
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I disagree with the opening post. Silencing -forcefully- any negative message is on itself a negative action. Also, who has the integrity needed for judging what is negative and what not, without personal feelings?

Everyone is responsible for their own broadcasting and defense against any enemy, invisible or not. I firmly believe it's a matter of everyone doing their self-control, not about policing and judging each other.
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Old 12-11-2008, 06:27 PM   #9
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I disagree with the opening post. Silencing -forcefully- any negative message is on itself a negative action. Also, who has the integrity needed for judging what is negative and what not, without personal feelings?

Everyone is responsible for their own broadcasting and defense against any enemy, invisible or not. I firmly believe it's a matter of everyone doing their self-control, not about policing and judging each other.
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Old 12-12-2008, 05:04 AM   #10
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Making a negative post, and making a personal attack is two different things. If you read what I wrote again, in the light of causing a person to feel bad about themselves as you express your opinion, or making personal attacks, that is what I am speaking to.

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I disagree with the opening post. Silencing -forcefully- any negative message is on itself a negative action. Also, who has the integrity needed for judging what is negative and what not, without personal feelings?

Everyone is responsible for their own broadcasting and defense against any enemy, invisible or not. I firmly believe it's a matter of everyone doing their self-control, not about policing and judging each other.
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Old 12-11-2008, 06:34 PM   #11
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Let me tell you a story:

My friend Candace is very psychic, she described something that happened to her when she was a girl that supports the theory of Icke's regarding negative emotions being used as energy for other dimensional beings...

She was about 17 and her boyfriend came home from a party where he had been drinking heavily...they got into an argument and he became more and more abusive-that's when she noticed, standing next to him, whispering in his ear what she described as a "demon" a character with pointy ears, suddenly the being saw her looking at it and seemed to realize she could see it, he immediately vanished and the boyfriend slumped in a chair and fell quiet, he seemed confused and couldn't recall what the fight was about.

I heard this story long before ever reading any of the David Icke material and when I did - it reminded me of what Candace had said...now, it looks like the awareness of this dynamic does a great deal to dismiss the "feeding" and I believe rage is their favorite food, so let's watch ourselves, we can't control others but we can certainly pray that the beings leave us alone if we detect them. I have another similar story about an incident in a prison, so it's clear to me anyway that this thing happens and we have power over it.

We are very powerful spiritual beings, don't forget, we don't need to sic hall monitors on each other when something happens we don't like on this forum, do it yourself!! You can and must if we are to rise to the occasion of creating a new paradigm, no??
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Old 12-11-2008, 11:07 PM   #12
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Yes, this has really dragged his whole effort down. I guess TPTB sent him Jennifer Green, alias Arizona Wilder. She turned out to be a disinformation agent, and whenever I mention his name, it is her stuff that is always evoked by the other person.

Besides, I think he himself sometimes act as a magnet on negative vibrations. This naturally a danger when you do what he has done for some 20 years or so, he has been out digging in the dung very long and very hard.
His take on the 'sheeple' is a little repetitive, and yes, disrespectful. How do we distinguish between those that live socalled ordinary lives, but are full of love for their families and their fellow man, and those who could'nt care less about either what is going on in the world or in the lives of the people that are close to them?

There is not much gained if Mind is made King, and the Heart is cold.
Sometimes those who see "truth" become disgusted with the rest of the population who do not. The problem here is that it's very easy to sympathise with the dark side.
It's all too easy to think "to hell with it, let them all burn. The world would be a better place without all those "sheep" anyway!".

Yeah...I can see how easy it is to walk that path.

It's just like Rockerfellers chat with Aaron Russo, it's almost like watching an episode of star wars...

My take on it is that the "final solution" that the "PTB" have in mind for us all is the easy option, the other alternative is to radically change all our lives forever, so far the solution suggested by the Zeitgeist addendum movie is the best alternative thus far. For this to work though the whole world must accept it's principles.
It is obvious to see by now that even of a world leader such as Obama was to stand up and suggest this...it wouldn't work. We're just too far gone as a species now.
The "PTB" have royally f****d up and they know it.

What it takes is a show of emotion, true all out bawling by all leaders on television across the world, telling all the truth, spilling all the beans, begging forgiveness and begging us all to become more than what we are, to make that quantum leap...to not give a damn about money anymore, to not hate each other anymore..I could carry on all night but you get the idea. No amount of Alex Jones' or David Icke's can do this. The catalyst must be a well recognised and respected world leader with more clout than Obama.
We need a "chosen one"
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Old 12-12-2008, 01:00 AM   #13
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If there are extraterrestrials that appear physically to resemble reptiles or are of a reptillian nature, then it is not too hard to understand David Icke's writings on the reptilians. And as many people have posted above, they think his research on the Illuminati etc to be excellent but can't swallow his theories on the reptilians. That is okay. I KNOW that they exist as i have my "proof". And we do not need to be in a state of fear about them but we do need to be aware of them and all the other physical and non-physical influences and entities that abound out there in our 3D reality and the many other vibratory frequency ranges of being. And lastly, not all retilian looking ETs should be judged "negative" as this is not the case.

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Old 12-12-2008, 04:07 AM   #14
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If there are extraterrestrials that appear physically to resemble reptiles or are of a reptillian nature, then it is not too hard to understand David Icke's writings on the reptilians. And as many people have posted above, they think his research on the Illuminati etc to be excellent but can't swallow his theories on the reptilians. That is okay. I KNOW that they exist as i have my "proof". And we do not need to be in a state of fear about them but we do need to be aware of them and all the other physical and non-physical influences and entities that abound out there in our 3D reality and the many other vibratory frequency ranges of being. And lastly, not all retilian looking ETs should be judged "negative" as this is not the case.

Peace and Blessings to All.
i agree, believe they do exist, rather, i am certain they do
reptillians are not like us, they are missing significant pieces that make them whole, one of which is a soul
our fear is like an invitation for their presence, they smell fear, will exhibit enormous patience to wait for a window of opportunity that fear dissolves our truth, a moment when we lose trust in the divine beings that we are, they await such moments
i also agree that et's are all different, many are as whole and light as we are, others though have been expelled from that light and become reptillians with agendas, to seek and prey upon fear ... our fear
awareness and discernment is our wisdom ...
fear is their invite ...
when our truth is absolute, there is no reason to fear, they cannot find their way to us by way of love, they are oblivious to what love is

peace and love to all ...
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WE are the chosen ones! If the Pindar could take another look and see that there was a choice beyond the chessboard, the Golden Middle Road that does not require a choice between black and white, and to practice sending love for the last 8 years of his life, then anyone can do it. Morover, it will become contagious.
BTW the Pindar was termed the Shapeshifting Lizard King (by Wilder/Icke/Deagle) and this is scaremongering: More fear, more hate!

We have to stop looking for a savior, we ARE doing it ourselves.
The monetary system will go down. The PTB will try new tricks to try to enslave us, that will also fail. There are many people out there that have not bought so heavily into hate as we who 'are in the know' might have done, and their waking up might not go so easily in the other ditch, that of hate and fear. They might say 'Enough' in a different way and simply go straight to the Golden Middle Road, that of unity in love. This is what we came for, this is what we will do.
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WE are the chosen ones! If the Pindar could take another look and see that there was a choice beyond the chessboard, the Golden Middle Road that does not require a choice between black and white, and to practice sending love for the last 8 years of his life, then anyone can do it. Morover, it will become contagious.
BTW the Pindar was termed the Shapeshifting Lizard King (by Wilder/Icke/Deagle) and this is scaremongering: More fear, more hate!

We have to stop looking for a savior, we ARE doing it ourselves.
The monetary system will go down. The PTB will try new tricks to try to enslave us, that will also fail. There are many people out there that have not bought so heavily into hate as we who 'are in the know' might have done, and their waking up might not go so easily in the other ditch, that of hate and fear. They might say 'Enough' in a different way and simply go straight to the Golden Middle Road, that of unity in love. This is what we came for, this is what we will do.
I think you missed my point, those who are not awakened and are happy to have leaders and retain the status quo will NOT change en mass. Certainly a few will wake up just like yourself and others on this forum but not the entire world in a short period of time. We could run nothing but truth vids for a whole week on national television and it still won't happen.

This is why I said it is so easy to sympathise with the idea of culling 80% of the population as they are beyond all hope now.

While I can understand the hopelessness I won't partake in it. I can at least make the most of my small sphere of influence for now and hope to help some.

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I have to admit. I cant believe how I have reacted on some things I have read here. I think I just got reeled in. its easy to get worked up over all this information. a lot of bad science @ here. I think people mean well. but there is a lot of bs @. I for one am going to try to stay more positive. and only act on sound science. and not some blog or utube link.


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I agree completely. I take it all under advisement, and well lets be honest, us humans are by in large operating in a vacuum of information and being lied to on a daily basis. And in that mess we need to figure out what is up, and it is easy to have fear, but to switch one dogma for another and attack people here is wrong, and I am glad that you see it as well. It is hard to stay positive for sure, but we must.

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I have to admit. I cant believe how I have reacted on some things I have read here. I think I just got reeled in. its easy to get worked up over all this information. a lot of bad science @ here. I think people mean well. but there is a lot of bs @. I for one am going to try to stay more positive. and only act on sound science. and not some blog or utube link.


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I am not sure I can believe everything David Icke says, but I can say one thing, some of his concepts can help people if they adopt them as a concept, and there is no better example in the drama that has happened that might have influenced Kerry to leave the forum.

As a recap, my understanding of what Icke has to say is this. There are a race of beings, possibly 4th dimensional lizard types, that derive benefit from humans when they are upset, cause upset, or spread hate etc. His point is that humans are unaware of the multi-dimensional aspect of their psyche, and that they are broadcasting at all times into other dimensions energy, which is harvested by this races.

Now Icke also asserts that certain people on the planet with a high percentage of DNA that was contributed by this race can be manipulated to cause situations and effect through their actions distress on other humans which in turn feed that race through that energy. This can be done often without the person's knowledge, and sometimes the most innocent of souls can be the victims of the most abuse of others without realizing it.

Icke also asserts that love and support is poison as a energy for this race, and that to broadcast these energies in fact is like poison and causes them to disconnect in a way from the humans who are broadcasting these energies.

Icke also asserts that in a way, when you broadcast love and support, and caring, that you will be tampered with by other humans who without their knowledge will be inspired to cause you grief through their actions or manipulating opinion against you for their benefit. Any negative emotion can be used to feed them, including self doubt. The best analogy for people is if you have seen the movie "The Matrix". Instead of electricity you are being harvested for negative emotion. And when your production drops, you will be shaken up a little.

What I will suggest with that in mind is two things. Small minded people on this forum with criticism, and negative emotions, innocent as they are, are in fact feeding that 4th dimensional race. And Kerry, regardless of her workload reason by reacting is feeding that 4th dimensional race. Everyone here should always focus on only love emotions and deny this race any sustenance from negative energy. And Kerry should simply stay, and not give that race the benefit of a reaction because of the fact that people unaware of their nature were used as pawns to spread negative energy on this important forum.

What I would suggest is if the MODS wish to make a real difference in life, then any poster who infers a negative emotion or intent of another user, causes drama, or a negative energy in anyway without coupling it with a positive emotion, be silenced for a period of one week. There is enough negative energy in this world, lets get this forum on track.


your thoughts are good and well taken but
one week seems a little severe. a warning with correction and understanding might do nicely unless they are flagrant and consistently offensive. nice posting.
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Thanks, and yes, maybe a week is a little harsh. You know, one thing that seems to be lost today is the nature of the web as self policing. Basically in every sector, the net participants penalize people who fall off the masses of that community, but volume of responses so that people learn the basic behavior required in any group from the backlash in their inbox reminding them to be nicer, or cruler, etc., what the community dictates.

The role of the MOD is to allow that discussion and kick back to happen towards the offending party without any major damage and to keep the flames from getting too high, but to interrupt that process with heavy handedness robs the net, and this board, of the power it has to self police.

Basically we have many participants today on the web who are ignorant of the core Internet ideals and it's design and collaboration philosophy, and are trying to apply standard top down approach management. It leads to problems everywhere on the net.

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one week seems a little severe. a warning with correction and understanding might do nicely unless they are flagrant and consistently offensive. nice posting.
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Old 12-11-2008, 09:36 AM   #21
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I love David Icke, although its only recently that i started getting into his stuff (talks etc) seriously. Nice to see a Brit commenting on US matters without inhibition..hello Tony Blair?? you still there??

I agree with the principle of what Orb is saying, but what is really necessary is for people's criticism of others comments to be reasoned and non-offensive. I'm constantly amazed that on a forum like this people are still letting their "egos" dominate when it is primarly a forum for learning and information sharing. The "poor Gary McKinnon" thread shocked me at how off-beam it got in the end.
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I simply call these forces/beings the ego-parasites. They thrive/live in the unconscious/darkness and they feed off of all sort of conflict/affliction/negativity either self-directed or directed towards others. Many people are identified with the nest of ego-parasites as their very identity. That is why just a few words is often enough to provoke the parasitic beast to reveal its ugly head.

I find that it is very good to view the forces operating in one's mind as impersonal "alien" forces that is not "you". They are yours to take responsability for yes, but not "you" - not your identity. The forces offer different choices of reaction. If you turn down the first response/choice (often automatic/conditioned based on judgements), another choice will appear. This new choice will come from a clearer/calmer space and it will be of a higer quality than the first. The prayer from George Green's Handbooks for a new Paradigm can be of good help here: "I/he/she is a human becoming, help me/him/her to become!". With that in mind it is easier to forgive self and others.

These forces are not "evil/bad" in my view. They are doing an important job. They are extremely good at finding weaknesses and what buttons to push. Thus, they will point out to you what you need to "work on" in yourself. Only lies can get provoked, because truth has nothing to defend. These forces should be seen as providing the catalyst for change/growth, and not as the "enemy". Use the Lightsword of Awareness to cut through.


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Quote from Orb=What I would suggest is if the MODS wish to make a real difference in life, then any poster who infers a negative emotion or intent of another user, causes drama, or a negative energy in anyway without coupling it with a positive emotion, be silenced for a period of one week. There is enough negative energy in this world, lets get this forum on track.
All I can say is Wow!(Because I surely don't want to be silenced for a week LOL!) this forum is tame compared to what it used to be!
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Old 12-11-2008, 03:56 AM   #24
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i get what you say orb, negativity feeds negativity so let's keep it to a minimum, i agree ...

yet something keeps nagging my inners about this ...

from what i know, i get that awakening must come through free will, it must derive from seeking our own truth and thus it is up to us individually to know it and then collectively, we move forward ...

once we begin implementing limitations then we are standing in the way of free will, ours for implementing it and theirs for not being permitted to receiving it ...

what i get is that in this time place which is unfolding now is very different than anything we've ever experienced, the biggest difference is core, it is a time when we have to go deeper within ourselves than ever before and locate our truth and thus awaken, our truth must come from our selves first and foremost, kind of like we're scraping the bottom of the barrel to find it ...

we do this by receiving all kinds of information and then discerning what we keep and what goes to get us closer to the barrel's bottom, it is almost vital that WE do our own work, that we have to know what resonates within us and what doesn't and to gain our wisdom by BEing able to say yes to that info and no to the other ...

once we start shaping what others receive then it doesn't allow us the opportunity to say yes or no because that option suddenly isn't available to us which in turn doesn't align us with our truth as quickly ...

do enough shaping as to what people receive, put up enough parameters and soon everything begins looking like fluff ... we can't learn from fluff ...

i don't resonate with negativity at all and yet i have to say negativity is exactly what had pushed me that much harder to allow me the opportunity to find my truth, sat in the bottom of many barrels saying no to it and thus seeking and locating the yes ... the yes being my truth ...

it is a learning process, energies now are facilitating awakening at very rapid speeds which at times, brings out more than of the norm negativity from us and yet, that too is all part in part of that individual's seeking, they are weeding through their own gardens and tossing out the weeds to others which shouldn't be right but how else to weed ... sometimes the weeds have to be received by others and with that the gardener receives back that it wasn't ok for them to do that and in turn they come to know it really isn't their truth and ... lesson complete ...

learning from negativity is one thing but being disrespectful in how it is done is another, as long as it is still respectful, then it is that person's teaching ...

i'm rambling but awakening now really is about digging so deep that at those depths there will usually be some kind of negativity and it will usually surface ... to dissolve, to heal ...

as i wrote, i don't resonate with negativity anymore but there was once a time when i was at the bottom of that stinkin barrel, tossed out some negativity from time to time until i learned (or "learnt" ) that it isn't me ...

the most appropriate place to be with our truth is in a solid one ...

when we're learning the fine art of awakening we sometimes weeble and wobble and at times fall down, but hopefully when we're down temporarily, others will allow us to get up once again ...

we can only get closer to that one day that we don't fall again ...

always rambling
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Old 12-11-2008, 02:17 PM   #25
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Default Re: Maybe Icke Is Right The Wrong Energy Is Everywhere

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I am not sure I can believe everything David Icke says, but I can say one thing, some of his concepts can help people if they adopt them as a concept, and there is no better example in the drama that has happened that might have influenced Kerry to leave the forum.

As a recap, my understanding of what Icke has to say is this. There are a race of beings, possibly 4th dimensional lizard types, that derive benefit from humans when they are upset, cause upset, or spread hate etc. His point is that humans are unaware of the multi-dimensional aspect of their psyche, and that they are broadcasting at all times into other dimensions energy, which is harvested by this races.

Now Icke also asserts that certain people on the planet with a high percentage of DNA that was contributed by this race can be manipulated to cause situations and effect through their actions distress on other humans which in turn feed that race through that energy. This can be done often without the person's knowledge, and sometimes the most innocent of souls can be the victims of the most abuse of others without realizing it.

Icke also asserts that love and support is poison as a energy for this race, and that to broadcast these energies in fact is like poison and causes them to disconnect in a way from the humans who are broadcasting these energies.

Icke also asserts that in a way, when you broadcast love and support, and caring, that you will be tampered with by other humans who without their knowledge will be inspired to cause you grief through their actions or manipulating opinion against you for their benefit. Any negative emotion can be used to feed them, including self doubt. The best analogy for people is if you have seen the movie "The Matrix". Instead of electricity you are being harvested for negative emotion. And when your production drops, you will be shaken up a little.

What I will suggest with that in mind is two things. Small minded people on this forum with criticism, and negative emotions, innocent as they are, are in fact feeding that 4th dimensional race. And Kerry, regardless of her workload reason by reacting is feeding that 4th dimensional race. Everyone here should always focus on only love emotions and deny this race any sustenance from negative energy. And Kerry should simply stay, and not give that race the benefit of a reaction because of the fact that people unaware of their nature were used as pawns to spread negative energy on this important forum.

What I would suggest is if the MODS wish to make a real difference in life, then any poster who infers a negative emotion or intent of another user, causes drama, or a negative energy in anyway without coupling it with a positive emotion, be silenced for a period of one week. There is enough negative energy in this world, lets get this forum on track.
I absolutely agree with you. let's stop pretending that we all here are such a goodie, goodie. there are people on this forum who enjoy bad-mouthing others. i do not believe that calling others fools and other names is is just a freedom of expression. They are doing it on purpose. They know that there will be reaction. some deliberately spread lies and want to engage in confrontations. certain individuals hurt other people's feelings and then act as if the wrong has been done to them. it evokes negative energy and these people ENJOY IT. I see it, I feel it, I sense it.
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