Anti-Doom Thread --

Magii · 10-04-2008, 12:37 AM

I'm really starting to wonder about all the DOOM Threads on here ..

How about .. words from a wise men says ...about the following

~~~
– The imminent collapse of the U.S. Economy to occur sometime in late 2008
Wise man says "No"
– The imminent collapse of the U.S. Government finances sometime in mid 2009
Wise man says "Not Happening"
– The possibility of Civil War inside the United States as a result of the collapse
Wise man says "Nix on the Civil war"
– The advance round-ups of “insurgent U.S. Citizens” likely to move against the government – The detention of those rounded up at The REX 84 Camps constructed throughout the United States
Wise man says "Paranoia run amuck"
– The possibility of public retaliation against members of Congress for the collapses
– The location of safe facilities for members of Congress and their families to reside during massive civil unrest
Wise man says "Not at all"
– The necessary and unavoidable merger of The U.S. with Canada and Mexico establishing The North American Union
– The issuance of a new currency called the AMERO for all three nations as an economic solution.
Wise man says "Certainly there are many voices screaming "fire" and hoping to cause a stampede. The gloomers are salivating, hoping for a total collapse of the bastion of democracy and freedom.

They will fail"

~~~

DOOM & Gloom are great money makers .. dont get trapped - if u see people selling books, audio or whatever - put your thinking caps on

!

10-04-2008, 12:46 AM

I agree. 2012 seems to be becoming a good business for some people.

I often thought this myself.

Racsouran · 10-04-2008, 12:49 AM

when the owners of this site starting asking for money, i felt somehow not surprised, but deceived at the same time. they did it wrong. this forum is not heaven, or something to worship, keep your eyes open, and if, asked for money, don´t give it.

i frequent forums with 35000 members, with tenths more activity than this one, and never asked for money, don´t be stupid, don´t fall on that.

It´s all ******* business.

Zarathustra · 10-04-2008, 12:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by suriel

I agree. 2012 seems to be becoming a good business for some people.

I often thought this myself.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Racsouran

when the owners of this site starting asking for money, i felt somehow not surprised, but deceived at the same time. they did it wrong. this forum is not heaven, or something to worship, keep your eyes open, and if, asked for money, don´t give it.

i frequent forums with 35000 members, with tenths more activity than this one, and never asked for money, don´t be stupid, don´t fall on that.

It´s all ******* business.

I certainly agree with the principle of Caveat Emptor

Zarathustra · 10-04-2008, 12:53 AM

M,

I am not selling anything, and if the message of your post is to remain calm in troubled times, I can agree. If the message of your post is to caution against jumping to conclusions, I can agree. However, if the message of your post is to conclusively state that those things are not possible, and with certainty not going to happen, then I cannot agree, for that is no better than panicking for no reason.

As an easy example, were you to tell an average citizen of Germany in 1928 that their nation was headed towards a tyranical form of government that would play a major role in the deaths of millions, they would likely and understandably scoff at the notion.

There is a subtle, but important distinction between doomsaying and turning a blind eye towards troubling developments. That fine line in the middle is to recognize something for what it is. As an easy example, a law which allows a citizen of the United States to be arrested, detained indefinetly, and not charged for a crime, merely at the whim of the executive branch, does not require hyperbole to be troubling to a keen intellect.

Again, I am not necessarily arguing with you, since I don't know the motivation behind your comments, but I don't agree with the generalization either.

Z

Donald · 10-14-2008, 02:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zarathustra

M,

I am not selling anything, and if the message of your post is to remain calm in troubled times, I can agree. If the message of your post is to caution against jumping to conclusions, I can agree. However, if the message of your post is to conclusively state that those things are not possible, and with certainty not going to happen, then I cannot agree, for that is no better than panicking for no reason.

As an easy example, were you to tell an average citizen of Germany in 1928 that their nation was headed towards a tyranical form of government that would play a major role in the deaths of millions, they would likely and understandably scoff at the notion.

There is a subtle, but important distinction between doomsaying and turning a blind eye towards troubling developments. That fine line in the middle is to recognize something for what it is. As an easy example, a law which allows a citizen of the United States to be arrested, detained indefinetly, and not charged for a crime, merely at the whim of the executive branch, does not require hyperbole to be troubling to a keen intellect.

Again, I am not necessarily arguing with you, since I don't know the motivation behind your comments, but I don't agree with the generalization either.

Z

My opinion (even though no one asked for it)? You are the wise man on that thread.

izz · 10-14-2008, 02:22 AM

deleted by izz

Donald · 10-14-2008, 02:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by izz

why is he the wise man ? because what he says dovetails with what you think ?

What if it does? I'm entitled to my own opinion right?

izz · 10-14-2008, 02:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Donald

What if it does? I'm entitled to my own opinion right?

yea you are ..

Magii · 10-14-2008, 02:45 PM

Here it is guys and gals ..

We are entering a New World Order of

dum dum dum

"Meritocracy" !!!!!!!!!!!!!

Meritocracy is a system of a government or another organization wherein appointments are made and responsibilities are given based on demonstrated talent and ability (merit), rather than by wealth (plutocracy), family connections (nepotism), class privilege (oligarchy), cronyism, popularity (as in democracy) or other historical determinants of social position and political power. In a meritocracy, society rewards (by wealth, position, and social status) those who demonstrated talent and competence, demonstrated through past actions or by competition.

~~~~~
Watch Everyone Start to use "Meritocracy" ----

Magii · 10-23-2008, 05:11 AM

25 Tactics for Truth Suppression

1. Hear no Evil
2. Incredulous
3. Rumormonger
4. Straw Man
5. Ridicule
6. Hit & Run
7. ? Motives
8. Authority
9. Play Dumb
10. Old News
11. Fake Confess.
12. Too Complex
13. False Logic
14. Not Enough
15. Twist Facts
16. Lose Evidence
17. Change Subject
18. Antagonize
19. Ignore Proof
20. False Evidence
21. Subvert
22. New Truth
23. O.J. (Create bigger distractions)
24. Silence Opp.
25. Vanish

[source]

Magii · 10-23-2008, 05:14 AM

New Anti-Doom Alert

Question to Sleeper about the US Dollar - if its gonna get zapped

Responce was :
"Are you in a hurry for the house of cards to come tumbling down

There are plenty of bad entities and their flunky human Representatives trying their damdest to spook the herd into a stampede.

But the dollar will remain strong for many years to come. All other currencies depend on that. Like it or not. "

-there u go people .. .. when you hear someone tell u the Dollar is gonna collapse, no one wants the dollar .. etc etc .. remember this :P

Magii · 10-24-2008, 08:15 PM

-Stock Market Doom / Collapse (checks off the doom list for Oct 24 )

Whats the next DOOM to come to a Theater near you ?!

Someone needs to make a list -- if anyone has one .. plz post it here

and Ill go .. day by day .. event by event ..checking it off the doom list .. !!

Meanwhile .. have a drink and remember - No one, no one, no one ... can get in the way of what I'm feeling !!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_v7YmSgJBFw

Magii · 10-31-2008, 06:30 PM

Can someone point out the new "DOOM & GLOOM" scare ?

Is there a new one out yet?

I havent been reading up as much .. im pondering if anyone made something new up ..

Magii · 11-14-2008, 04:52 AM

Ha .. a must for the Anti DOOM Thread ..

Check this lady out !

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=p0TCyA...eature=related

777 The Great Work · 11-14-2008, 04:58 AM

What is doom? All endings are beginnings

sebring1963 · 11-14-2008, 05:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Magii

Ha .. a must for the Anti DOOM Thread ..

Check this lady out !

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=p0TCyA...eature=related

What a trip... she also channels Hitler
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=hfTJGAVMCDk

capreycorn · 11-14-2008, 12:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sebring1963

What a trip... she also channels Hitler
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=hfTJGAVMCDk

whoa there!

is this "destiniproductions" for real...i mean i just watched the "adolf hitler" series..and man! was he the "light bearer" or what!?

capreycorn · 11-14-2008, 02:41 PM

sebring 1963, thanks for the link.(it`s wicked

)
..what is your oppinion about this "thing" they do.?

looking at the hitler videos with the kiddo talking is like looking at this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e2qvN0iyvr8&NR=1
der fuehrer of the past (deutsch)

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=J-VzAy...eature=related
the fuehrers return to innocence (redemption). (english)

hitler talking about his childhood part 1 up to his redemption part 13-15...
boring but mind blowing.

(if this is for real, we should all see this...)
(but don`t expect to see an ole adolf

performance)

777 The Great Work · 11-14-2008, 04:20 PM

capreycorn · 11-14-2008, 04:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Magii

Ha .. a must for the Anti DOOM Thread ..

Check this lady out !

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=p0TCyA...eature=related

HI MAGIIIIIIIIII !

interesting post.

do you know how "good" she really is? (i don`t, but some things said do "resonate" also with the Hitler series)
is this really a lady?
she said: "there`s no f*****g jesus coming 2012"

(but she wasn`t herself there, so she is excused for the F***** word

)

Magii · 11-14-2008, 09:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by capreycorn

HI MAGIIIIIIIIII !

interesting post.

do you know how "good" she really is? (i don`t, but some things said do "resonate" also with the Hitler series)
is this really a lady?
she said: "there`s no f*****g jesus coming 2012"

(but she wasn`t herself there, so she is excused for the F***** word

)

No Idea what to tell you about this lady ...

I just wanted to throw it in the pot for a different point of view ..

then the DOOMers on here ... lol

She has some interesting stuff ... even if shes phony some of her ideas / ways of saying things are interesting ..

Magii · 11-15-2008, 08:27 PM

A Shift is needed in the Anti-Doom Thread --

and will shift to Musical wonders ..

First on the list is Yanni
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=uIdEagc5-7A

Check out some of the amazing intel he gives away to people for FREE!

One Quote from the video "Human Beings are very powerful, all of us not just sonme of us ,, and there is nothing that we can not do ... there are no limits"

capreycorn · 11-15-2008, 10:45 PM

just wanted to say : thanks for posting!

nice one....wow, yanni`s got music in his blood..
never heard yanni before...always thought its all bollywood music...now I`m really surprised.

10-04-2008, 12:57 AM

Well, there are many "wise men" who would differ with you. Forget, for a moment, what you see on Camelot and Rense. Consider the 80 some odd brave members of the U.S. House of Reps. who still voted no today on the bailout. They see something stinks in Rotterdam.

You take issue, much as I do, with those who think they know the exact scenario that will take place. Truth is, they don't. And if one of them does, the waters of information dissemination are so murky that most of us won't pick the right scenario.

So lets go with what we know: 1) everyone feels that something big - for the good or bad (as relative as those terms are) - is happening. A massive sea change is in the air. 2) Given the current power structure and patterns of wealth accumulation, and an understanding of how the very scenario we face today has played out in history, those at the top now will do whatever they have to to ensure continuity in their own lives, such as, say, passing a trillion dollar economic "rescue" that solves nothing for the majority affected by the current economic decline. And, 3) Western culture has deteriorated to the point that any decline in living conditions and wealth will result in the suffering of many - from those willing to victimize, at the very very least, for the fun of it.

You can call it doom and gloom if you wish, perhaps that is indeed the right label. Preparation is the key. No one here should pay for information. If it is meaningful, it will be free.

No one knows the scenario that will play out, the "wise" people (men and women included) will be prepared for them all.

10-04-2008, 12:37 AM	#1
Magii Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Close to NYC Posts: 165	Anti-Doom Thread -- I'm really starting to wonder about all the DOOM Threads on here .. How about .. words from a wise men says ...about the following ~~~ – The imminent collapse of the U.S. Economy to occur sometime in late 2008 Wise man says "No" – The imminent collapse of the U.S. Government finances sometime in mid 2009 Wise man says "Not Happening" – The possibility of Civil War inside the United States as a result of the collapse Wise man says "Nix on the Civil war" – The advance round-ups of “insurgent U.S. Citizens” likely to move against the government – The detention of those rounded up at The REX 84 Camps constructed throughout the United States Wise man says "Paranoia run amuck" – The possibility of public retaliation against members of Congress for the collapses – The location of safe facilities for members of Congress and their families to reside during massive civil unrest Wise man says "Not at all" – The necessary and unavoidable merger of The U.S. with Canada and Mexico establishing The North American Union – The issuance of a new currency called the AMERO for all three nations as an economic solution. Wise man says "Certainly there are many voices screaming "fire" and hoping to cause a stampede. The gloomers are salivating, hoping for a total collapse of the bastion of democracy and freedom. They will fail" ~~~ DOOM & Gloom are great money makers .. dont get trapped - if u see people selling books, audio or whatever - put your thinking caps on !

10-04-2008, 12:46 AM	#2
Suriel Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Anti-Doom Thread -- I agree. 2012 seems to be becoming a good business for some people. I often thought this myself.

10-04-2008, 12:49 AM	#3
Racsouran Banned Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Spain Posts: 248	Re: Anti-Doom Thread -- when the owners of this site starting asking for money, i felt somehow not surprised, but deceived at the same time. they did it wrong. this forum is not heaven, or something to worship, keep your eyes open, and if, asked for money, don´t give it. i frequent forums with 35000 members, with tenths more activity than this one, and never asked for money, don´t be stupid, don´t fall on that. It´s all ******* business. Last edited by Racsouran; 10-04-2008 at 12:53 AM.

10-04-2008, 12:53 AM	#5
Zarathustra Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Eastern U.S. Posts: 429	Re: Anti-Doom Thread -- M, I am not selling anything, and if the message of your post is to remain calm in troubled times, I can agree. If the message of your post is to caution against jumping to conclusions, I can agree. However, if the message of your post is to conclusively state that those things are not possible, and with certainty not going to happen, then I cannot agree, for that is no better than panicking for no reason. As an easy example, were you to tell an average citizen of Germany in 1928 that their nation was headed towards a tyranical form of government that would play a major role in the deaths of millions, they would likely and understandably scoff at the notion. There is a subtle, but important distinction between doomsaying and turning a blind eye towards troubling developments. That fine line in the middle is to recognize something for what it is. As an easy example, a law which allows a citizen of the United States to be arrested, detained indefinetly, and not charged for a crime, merely at the whim of the executive branch, does not require hyperbole to be troubling to a keen intellect. Again, I am not necessarily arguing with you, since I don't know the motivation behind your comments, but I don't agree with the generalization either. Z

10-14-2008, 02:22 AM	#7
izz Banned Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: south england Posts: 246	Re: Anti-Doom Thread -- deleted by izz Last edited by izz; 10-14-2008 at 02:54 AM.

10-14-2008, 02:45 PM	#10
Magii Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Close to NYC Posts: 165	Meritocracy ~ New World Order Here it is guys and gals .. We are entering a New World Order of dum dum dum "Meritocracy" !!!!!!!!!!!!! Meritocracy is a system of a government or another organization wherein appointments are made and responsibilities are given based on demonstrated talent and ability (merit), rather than by wealth (plutocracy), family connections (nepotism), class privilege (oligarchy), cronyism, popularity (as in democracy) or other historical determinants of social position and political power. In a meritocracy, society rewards (by wealth, position, and social status) those who demonstrated talent and competence, demonstrated through past actions or by competition. ~~~~~ Watch Everyone Start to use "Meritocracy" ----

10-23-2008, 05:11 AM	#11
Magii Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Close to NYC Posts: 165	Re: Anti-Doom Thread -- 25 Tactics for Truth Suppression 1. Hear no Evil 2. Incredulous 3. Rumormonger 4. Straw Man 5. Ridicule 6. Hit & Run 7. ? Motives 8. Authority 9. Play Dumb 10. Old News 11. Fake Confess. 12. Too Complex 13. False Logic 14. Not Enough 15. Twist Facts 16. Lose Evidence 17. Change Subject 18. Antagonize 19. Ignore Proof 20. False Evidence 21. Subvert 22. New Truth 23. O.J. (Create bigger distractions) 24. Silence Opp. 25. Vanish [source]

10-23-2008, 05:14 AM	#12
Magii Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Close to NYC Posts: 165	Re: Anti-Doom Thread -- New Anti-Doom Alert Question to Sleeper about the US Dollar - if its gonna get zapped Responce was : "Are you in a hurry for the house of cards to come tumbling down There are plenty of bad entities and their flunky human Representatives trying their damdest to spook the herd into a stampede. But the dollar will remain strong for many years to come. All other currencies depend on that. Like it or not. " -there u go people .. .. when you hear someone tell u the Dollar is gonna collapse, no one wants the dollar .. etc etc .. remember this :P

10-24-2008, 08:15 PM	#13
Magii Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Close to NYC Posts: 165	Re: Anti-Doom Thread -- -Stock Market Doom / Collapse (checks off the doom list for Oct 24 ) Whats the next DOOM to come to a Theater near you ?! Someone needs to make a list -- if anyone has one .. plz post it here and Ill go .. day by day .. event by event ..checking it off the doom list .. !! Meanwhile .. have a drink and remember - No one, no one, no one ... can get in the way of what I'm feeling !!!! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_v7YmSgJBFw

10-31-2008, 06:30 PM	#14
Magii Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Close to NYC Posts: 165	Re: Anti-Doom Thread -- Can someone point out the new "DOOM & GLOOM" scare ? Is there a new one out yet? I havent been reading up as much .. im pondering if anyone made something new up ..

11-14-2008, 04:52 AM	#15
Magii Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Close to NYC Posts: 165	Re: Anti-Doom Thread -- Ha .. a must for the Anti DOOM Thread .. Check this lady out ! http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=p0TCyA...eature=related

11-14-2008, 04:58 AM	#16
777 The Great Work Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: At the doors of perception Posts: 2,135	Re: Anti-Doom Thread -- What is doom? All endings are beginnings Last edited by 777 The Great Work; 11-14-2008 at 06:30 AM.

11-14-2008, 02:41 PM	#19
capreycorn Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: switzerland Posts: 455	Re: Anti-Doom Thread -- sebring 1963, thanks for the link.(it`s wicked ) ..what is your oppinion about this "thing" they do.? looking at the hitler videos with the kiddo talking is like looking at this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e2qvN0iyvr8&NR=1 der fuehrer of the past (deutsch) http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=J-VzAy...eature=related the fuehrers return to innocence (redemption). (english) hitler talking about his childhood part 1 up to his redemption part 13-15... boring but mind blowing. (if this is for real, we should all see this...) (but don`t expect to see an ole adolf performance) Last edited by capreycorn; 11-14-2008 at 02:56 PM.

11-14-2008, 04:20 PM	#20
777 The Great Work Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: At the doors of perception Posts: 2,135	Re: Anti-Doom Thread --

11-15-2008, 08:27 PM	#23
Magii Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Close to NYC Posts: 165	Re: Anti-Doom Thread -- A Shift is needed in the Anti-Doom Thread -- and will shift to Musical wonders .. First on the list is Yanni http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=uIdEagc5-7A Check out some of the amazing intel he gives away to people for FREE! One Quote from the video "Human Beings are very powerful, all of us not just sonme of us ,, and there is nothing that we can not do ... there are no limits" Last edited by Magii; 11-15-2008 at 08:31 PM.

11-15-2008, 10:45 PM	#24
capreycorn Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: switzerland Posts: 455	Re: Anti-Doom Thread -- just wanted to say : thanks for posting! nice one....wow, yanni`s got music in his blood.. never heard yanni before...always thought its all bollywood music...now I`m really surprised. Last edited by capreycorn; 11-15-2008 at 10:47 PM.

10-04-2008, 12:57 AM	#25
historycircus Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Anti-Doom Thread -- Well, there are many "wise men" who would differ with you. Forget, for a moment, what you see on Camelot and Rense. Consider the 80 some odd brave members of the U.S. House of Reps. who still voted no today on the bailout. They see something stinks in Rotterdam. You take issue, much as I do, with those who think they know the exact scenario that will take place. Truth is, they don't. And if one of them does, the waters of information dissemination are so murky that most of us won't pick the right scenario. So lets go with what we know: 1) everyone feels that something big - for the good or bad (as relative as those terms are) - is happening. A massive sea change is in the air. 2) Given the current power structure and patterns of wealth accumulation, and an understanding of how the very scenario we face today has played out in history, those at the top now will do whatever they have to to ensure continuity in their own lives, such as, say, passing a trillion dollar economic "rescue" that solves nothing for the majority affected by the current economic decline. And, 3) Western culture has deteriorated to the point that any decline in living conditions and wealth will result in the suffering of many - from those willing to victimize, at the very very least, for the fun of it. You can call it doom and gloom if you wish, perhaps that is indeed the right label. Preparation is the key. No one here should pay for information. If it is meaningful, it will be free. No one knows the scenario that will play out, the "wise" people (men and women included) will be prepared for them all.

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