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Old 09-24-2008, 10:09 PM   #1
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Hello all just wanted to express how happy I am to be a part of project Avalon and the forums.

I just wanted to touch base on something I have noticed with this site and other forums.

I want to talk about honesty, integrity, character, reliability, honor, pride, and ethics.

Almost all of our members are not using there real names. I realize there are many reasons why this is and none of the answer I will receive are really good answers. But in order for any of us to really trust one another we need let go, stop hiding behind the “username” and reveal ourselves to the world. In other forums that I have been involved with it works very well. Just think of it as carrying on a conversion in a face to face environment. If you are trying to hide something, be disrespectful, lie or have other agendas then you do not need to be here.


Morality isn't based on subjective ideas on "good" and "bad".

It's based on objective principles of Right and Wrong.

To find the Moral is to find the Truth.

Human Nature as well as the nature of the Universe allows us to study not only the dry facts of reality, but also the philosophical implications of existence and the existence of life itself including the conciseness of man.

Thanks for listening,

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Old 09-24-2008, 11:10 PM   #2
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This is a lovely post Darren
and, i am so glad you posted it,
lots of good stuff in it, for us to remember

Welcome to project avalon

i look forward to hearing more of your wisdom

i am susan
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Old 09-24-2008, 11:18 PM   #3
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Howdy All

Lance C. Roseman from the Sunshine Coast of BC here, I'll not hide my being, ever. Fear is failure and the forerunner of failure. Okay, that was a Crowley quote but WTF!
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Old 09-24-2008, 11:26 PM   #4
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kyle espeleta here, google my name or click on my profile and my real name is there...no hiding.

in fact i was bugging the secret service today and other agents protecting various U.N dignataries today, they were all at the sheraton and hilton in mid town manhattan were i was walking a dog (thats what i do)

the ukranian secret service were really gruff, i felt like chevy chase in "spies like us" an annoying goof asking if yeshenko was around. i wanted to see bush come out of the sheraton (he was eating lunch i guess) but it was a no go.

i was hoping he would want to come over and pet the dog i was walking and id get to tell him the "NWO will fail buddy!" but alas he didnt show and i had to go.

im sure there were people checking me in the windows and stuff above in other buildings.

who cares!

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Old 09-24-2008, 11:35 PM   #5
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That's funny, good to have a sense of humor, as my avatar shows,Dan.
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Old 09-24-2008, 11:24 PM   #6
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Hi Darren

My name really is Noël Newell and no, I'm not a cat. Haven't had time to put a picture of me up yet. However, the cat, Charm, is one of my most joyful companions!
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Old 09-24-2008, 11:57 PM   #7
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Hi Darren

My name really is Noël Newell and no, I'm not a cat. Haven't had time to put a picture of me up yet. However, the cat, Charm, is one of my most joyful companions!
hi charm...and, Noël

i miss my cat,
he left on 17may2007, i think
after 15 1/2 years

you are lucky to have Charm
(what an awesome cat)

cats can teach you a lot about rising
your vibration...also, if you spend a little time,
everyday, trying to imitate the cat purr,
you enver get sick

not sure, where a cat is on hawkins scale,
about 500 i think

brightest blessings to all

susan
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Old 09-25-2008, 12:06 AM   #8
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Complete anonymity can lead to complete expression. Those who might be inhibited because of what might be at stake in our physical world might not express thier true feelings without anonymity. Keep in mind that, as far as I know, "Henry Deacon" is a psudonym. Some may not have a choice. We should not judge anyone for not putting their real names out there - they could have a lot to lose, such as their ability to contribute meaningful information to those who are listening.

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Old 09-24-2008, 11:36 PM   #9
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Darren I feel the avatars and pseudonyms etc are a great idea. To choose an image which reflects one's essence is very appealing to one such as me, who prefers to let my mind do the talking. My daily persona can be an encumbrance which cramps my style when engaging with others thousands of miles away. I think honesty and openness are crucial in a forum - but if folk prefer to remain incognito surely that is okay? The important thing to me is that we are all communicating on important issues and sharing insights, observations on the magical thing we call life, aspirations and apprehensions, and simple old-fashioned humour.
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Old 09-25-2008, 12:10 AM   #10
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I want to talk about honesty, integrity, character, reliability, honor, pride, and ethics.
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If you are trying to hide something, be disrespectful, lie or have other agendas then you do not need to be here.
You dont need my real name to work out if what I post is honest etc. You simply need to read the words and decide.

I have chosen to remain behind an alias for practical operational security reasons, and to stop my real life becoming akward professionally.

There will come a time when I will be happy to post my photo, tell you my real name etc, but that time is not now. Sorry.

A..

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Old 09-25-2008, 05:15 AM   #11
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I appreciate the intentions of the OP, but I reserve the right to privacy.

Giving out one's real name provides anyone at all with the ability to gather information about oneself. Fear or no fear, I do not feel it necessary to disclose to a bunch of strangers in a forum my career, the high school I attended, where I live, etc.

So, Morgan is shall be
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Old 09-25-2008, 05:20 AM   #12
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My real name is on the round table, and if you Goggle my real name it takes up about three quarters of the full page - here then - Heather Dolheguy.
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Old 09-25-2008, 06:11 AM   #13
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I'm Esteban Danilo Villanova Montenegro from Chile. greetings to all.
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Old 09-25-2008, 06:25 AM   #14
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hey my name is Frank Samuel and no I'm not keen on pictures. Not my thing.
Even with my babies and family, just not my thing. I learn to look beyond the picture . My pictures are stored in my mind. I let my wife take the pictures.
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Old 09-26-2008, 10:35 PM   #15
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I have a vicious and vindictive ex-husband who is a pathological narcissist. He doesn't need to know what I am up to.

Oh... he is also an Islamofascist from a certain "rogue/terrorist" country, and feels death is the punishment for apostasy.

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Old 09-25-2008, 06:18 AM   #16
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As much as I have tried to remember, my real name has eluded me. During the time before current a name was irrelevant. If a name was relevant I would have remembered what it was. I do not understand the question.
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Old 09-26-2008, 11:19 PM   #17
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But in order for any of us to really trust one another we need let go, stop hiding behind the “username” and reveal ourselves to the world.
Hmmmm... trust has to be earned. Honesty does not. I can be honest without you knowing my real name.

If I was a member of some special task force commanded with identifying dissidents to the NWO, one of the first places I would go is the internet and forums that provide user information and where dissonant views are expressed. I would then make a list of the names, especially those with websites and RL addresses. I would then go through the list looking for cross references to phone books or websites. Depending on my brief, I would "profile" the list and determine who, by the evidence, are those that might pose a threat to the NWO.

On that basis I would say that transparency in these times and in this context is naive. There are enemies of truth, goodness and purity. Sometimes truth must be concealed. Even God does it.

I rest my case.



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Old 09-26-2008, 11:30 PM   #18
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"If I was a member of some special task force commanded with identifying dissidents to the NWO, one of the first places I would go is the internet and forums that provide user information and where dissonant views are expressed."

That is so yester millenium..

I would make my echelon and carnivore black boxes operating in the ISP for Total Information Awareness, scan each and every TCP/IP packet and analyse if there were forbidden/trigger words.. If any flag comes up positive, It would trigger that all communication be copied to a field officer who would take the descision to monitor ALL communication from that IP... Mostly for future references, after all laws change, and sometime they change something in the past lawful, to unlawful

The adresses of emails, IRC channels, HTTP adresses would only be used to register the network of individuals, and gather new IP adresses to be monitored a la McCarthy.

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Edit : Hi Officer.. At least You every time get something interesting to read.... And you can not, just can not unread thoughts... :P

btw, who gave us the internet, and why exactly? ;-)

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Old 09-27-2008, 04:49 AM   #19
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...That is so yester millenium..
Thanks for the update. I guess I am a bit behind the ball... (like I need to get in front of it).

I should point out however, that in my hypothetical example, it is not about listening so much as compiling a list with RL names addresses photos to forward to a "clean up crew". Yes, such details would be available via your method, but I am not concerned with how so much as what information may be garnered.

I think you understand my meaning. It is already understood I think, that "listening" is already taking place. My concern is not that people are listening because I have nothing I want to hide from them. Only that once a decision is made to eliminate opposition, personal details such as name etc become important. If I had that job, this forum might be a "good" place to start if I and everyone were to adopt the practice such as might be inferred from this thread.

Gosh, I've watched enough movies.



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Old 09-26-2008, 11:34 PM   #20
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Actually, all of my friends call me DeeZe. I've had the nickname for over 5 years now.

The name I was given at birth is Robert Bourgeau.

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Old 09-26-2008, 11:39 PM   #21
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i'm into using my real name. and i appreciate it when others do as well. but i understand why some might feel the need to protect themselves and those near them.
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Old 09-26-2008, 10:54 PM   #22
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Hello all just wanted to express how happy I am to be a part of project Avalon and the forums.

I just wanted to touch base on something I have noticed with this site and other forums.

I want to talk about honesty, integrity, character, reliability, honor, pride, and ethics.

Almost all of our members are not using there real names. I realize there are many reasons why this is and none of the answer I will receive are really good answers. But in order for any of us to really trust one another we need let go, stop hiding behind the “username” and reveal ourselves to the world. In other forums that I have been involved with it works very well. Just think of it as carrying on a conversion in a face to face environment. If you are trying to hide something, be disrespectful, lie or have other agendas then you do not need to be here.


Morality isn't based on subjective ideas on "good" and "bad".

It's based on objective principles of Right and Wrong.

To find the Moral is to find the Truth.

Human Nature as well as the nature of the Universe allows us to study not only the dry facts of reality, but also the philosophical implications of existence and the existence of life itself including the conciseness of man.

Thanks for listening,

Darren Swisher
I feel we use these names because we are becomming something else.
This is what feels good and its how we see ourselves. We are becomming one mind , one thought and one idea. Soon all the names wil dissapear as we merge into oneness.
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Old 09-26-2008, 11:44 PM   #23
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I feel we use these names because we are becomming something else.
This is what feels good and its how we see ourselves. We are becomming one mind , one thought and one idea. Soon all the names wil dissapear as we merge into oneness.
in David Cronenberg's 1983 macabre tribute to Marshall Mcluhan, Videodrome, the character Brian O'bilivion (who was based on Mcluhan) says "Soon all of us will have special names. Names designed to cause the cathode ray tube to resonate."

Indeedy.
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Old 09-26-2008, 11:58 PM   #24
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Hello all, my real name is Kathleen Stewart and I am not afraid to say it.
Fear is lack of faith and I have a lot of faith that yes there is going to be very bad times ahead but we all came in at this time knowing it ahead of time and most of us are here to help.
I am in service to others.
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Old 09-27-2008, 02:45 PM   #25
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Vickie Connell here and if you go into some sites where I am sounding off, you will see my name. I'm proud of who I am and my thoughts. I feel that hiding behind a false name and sounding off doesn't make sense. I want people to know that its me. My husband freaks out due to this. There are alot of women that hide their true identity due to the type of people we deal with as the ones involved with the illuminati.

It's a me and you can take it or leave it , but I'm holding my head up high even though I say stupid off the wall things. After all thats one of the reasons my husband fell in love with me. DUH
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