Spiritual Afterburner?

Czymra · 01-11-2009, 05:49 PM

Greetings,

Allow me to be 'silly' for a minute here.

Now after I read the Jake Simpson post on Camelot I've become a little bit discouraged like likely many others. Eating survival food or Sauron paranoia may be some side-effects but I really just came up with one question:

Christ, ain't there something like a spiritual afterburner?

I suppose that like me, many of you are convinced that human beings can do much of what is achieved technologically simply on their own, if they only grasped how. Now, I don't mind going through my banalities and sorting out my emotional disposition and all that. In fact I can enjoy it.
Nevertheless, I find that in order to do good to this world it might be quite handy to know when Sauron's eye is watching or get freed from the 'backwards' ways of communication because you can telepathically connect with whoever you wish anyway.

So is there a tick list or a blueprint? I know there is misinformation and all that to keep you from enlightenment. Now I'm not asking for enlightenment here, I'd gladly go down my path, but to have a little bit of a higher understanding of this would be well appreciated.

Now, you might tell me that this is the 'path to the dark side' and that it is only my 'ego' requesting this so I can feel better about myself.

That may well be true, and if so, go ahead, please tell me... but you know, supposedly I recognise symbols subconsciously, know what's right intuitively and all that, so what is all the studying for? Why shall I go 'educate myself' about all this through the exercise of my upper conscious and learning by heart if all that is ALREADY THERE? I'm a part of this fractal, I shouldn't need to learn about it so if any of you have a notion of what I'm getting at, I'm up for suggestions.

(By the way, I won't bargain with the devil.

)

Czymra · 01-11-2009, 05:56 PM

By the way, with all this that I hear on Avalon and Camelot, shouldn't it be possible for people to dream fasten, to pass on their knowledge Highlander style? If so, why hasn't there been a wave of that happening yet?

777 The Great Work · 01-11-2009, 08:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Czymra

Greetings,

Allow me to be 'silly' for a minute here.

Now after I read the Jake Simpson post on Camelot I've become a little bit discouraged like likely many others. Eating survival food or Sauron paranoia may be some side-effects but I really just came up with one question:

Christ, ain't there something like a spiritual afterburner?

I suppose that like me, many of you are convinced that human beings can do much of what is achieved technologically simply on their own, if they only grasped how. Now, I don't mind going through my banalities and sorting out my emotional disposition and all that. In fact I can enjoy it.
Nevertheless, I find that in order to do good to this world it might be quite handy to know when Sauron's eye is watching or get freed from the 'backwards' ways of communication because you can telepathically connect with whoever you wish anyway.

So is there a tick list or a blueprint? I know there is misinformation and all that to keep you from enlightenment. Now I'm not asking for enlightenment here, I'd gladly go down my path, but to have a little bit of a higher understanding of this would be well appreciated.

Now, you might tell me that this is the 'path to the dark side' and that it is only my 'ego' requesting this so I can feel better about myself.

That may well be true, and if so, go ahead, please tell me... but you know, supposedly I recognise symbols subconsciously, know what's right intuitively and all that, so what is all the studying for? Why shall I go 'educate myself' about all this through the exercise of my upper conscious and learning by heart if all that is ALREADY THERE? I'm a part of this fractal, I shouldn't need to learn about it so if any of you have a notion of what I'm getting at, I'm up for suggestions.

(By the way, I won't bargain with the devil.

)

In order to change something within ourselves we must start a fire.The spark must become a flame.

Anchor · 01-13-2009, 02:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Czymra

Now, you might tell me that this is the 'path to the dark side' and that it is only my 'ego' requesting this so I can feel better about myself.

Seems to me like you are wondering who you can trust. If any worry was worthwhile, that would be it

There is one persone who you can trust above all others: Yourself. If you can approach an inner dialogue with yourself, then you will have the best guidance available.

A..

Czymra · 01-13-2009, 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Anchor

Seems to me like you are wondering who you can trust. If any worry was worthwhile, that would be it

There is one persone who you can trust above all others: Yourself. If you can approach an inner dialogue with yourself, then you will have the best guidance available.

A..

I kind of expected this kind of answer but thank you nevertheless. I'm in the process of uncovering that self-dialogue and keep in in the day to day life.
Next step surely is to turn everything off and go deep. Wonder why it's so difficult.

Josefine · 01-13-2009, 01:35 PM

To speed up the process the Egyptians hit their students of higher learning with a blow to the head, according to TGW777. Even if they knew how to place it and with what force, maybe they lost a few?

Sound, on the other hand, may offer a more gentle, but not less efficient, 'blow' that affects the nooks and crannies of the brain and the bones of our body. The brain and the body turns into a resonance case, and is subtly affected in the right direction that we are talking about here.

The musical system that sets A=432 Hz is labelled a Scientific Musical Tuning, a natural tuning of our consciousness by gently massaging our inner 'technology'.

Currently the note A has been set to 440 Hz in our standardized musial system. (Nazi Germany set A=440 as the universal standard in 1939, hmmm...)

A=432 fits the Phi perfectly, and tuning the musial scale according to this standard makes music a wonderful tool for raising our consciousness, it resonates throughout our body.

Here is a link where you may learn more: www.432hz.net

There is also the gift that Tom Kenyon received as musical messages from the Archangels:

http://www.soundtravels.co.uk/kenyon...ls-p-2679.html

There you'll find a treasure trove of muscial tools for our awakening.

Czymra · 01-13-2009, 02:25 PM

Hm... I've just started studying this on it's theoretic side for the Nexus event. It's hard to believe that it actually makes a difference, I certainly haven't felt anything yet by listening to 432Hz music but I'll keep it in mind.
Thanks.

futureyes · 01-13-2009, 03:25 PM

the multitude of questions we ask our selves on this journey become less significant when we arrive at the knowing that the significance lies in no longer asking the questions but living the answers ...

we are the answer ...

stand upon the edge of a cliff of a canyon, look far below, see there is great distance between your self and the ground below ...

know there is no one else around you, feel you are safe ...

close your eyes, extend your arms out by your side, feel the wind upon your face and around your self ...

listen to the wind, allow it to now flow through you, feel oneness with the what it speaks ...

feel love within your heart ...

now jump ...

allow your self to feel your initial fright, allow your self to know you have no parachute, feel it ...

then feel what else is occuring ...

suddenly you feel a change, suddenly you feel safe, suddenly you feel your wings, you did not know you had wings until that moment, where did they come from ...

know it is irrelavent how they arrived but that you have them ...

experience how suddenly you feel anything and everything is possible, now that you have wings ...

feel oneness with the canyon, feel how the wind is your friend ...

now lift your wings ...

and fly ...

no longer are you the person you were standing at the top of the canyon ...

no longer do you have the fright of what lies below you, the fear that you will not make it down safely and perhaps perish ...

what was no longer has significance, the questions which ran through your mind at the top no longer matter ...

fear no longer exists ...

you trusted no other than your self and in doing so, you found your wings ...

now you fly ...

now you begin to live ...

... trust your self ...

asteram · 01-14-2009, 02:43 AM

Czymra-

It is easy enough for someone to say that we all have access to all information. Likely it is true on some level, but the question is do I have access to all information?

We all have the abiliity to play a musical instrument too, but it isn't going to happen without practice and it's nice to have some lessons and some theory; some need more than others.

In consciousness, some of us are more "stuck" than others. I was one of those; the desire and drive I had, the ability to reach higher levels though was not an easy thing. In my case I needed a teacher who knew his stuff and could, and would, push me far beyond any amount I would push myself, far beyond the level of strength and stamina that I thought I had.

I don't have any teachers like that to recommend, unfortunately, but if you really want to advance in consciousness and you keep looking you may find one. The key is discernment; keep asking the difficult questions and don't settle for answers that don't ring true to you.

For general work on accessing more of your brain, I would recommend the Insight CD from Awakened Minds. It is quite powerful and worth the cost.

asteram · 01-14-2009, 02:44 AM

Duplicate Post

Czymra · 01-14-2009, 08:06 AM

My mind does orbit around a teacher and my eyes are open, yet nothing turned up, yet. I can't leave the feeling that I just need to find a way to unlock myself.

"Everything is known to me but somehow beyond my reach."
Major Briggs, Twin Peaks

ucan · 01-14-2009, 12:00 PM

unfortunately this time round there are no leaders, teacher, guru's or trusted mentors and because of this we are very fortunate.

futureyes · 01-14-2009, 01:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Czymra

My mind does orbit around a teacher and my eyes are open, yet nothing turned up, yet. I can't leave the feeling that I just need to find a way to unlock myself.

"Everything is known to me but somehow beyond my reach."
Major Briggs, Twin Peaks

the deeper the roots, the higher the reach ...

Dakini · 01-21-2009, 09:33 PM

I love your willingness to ask questions.

So is there a tick list or a blueprint?
I think the tangible blueprint is in our DNA.

"...so what is all the studying for? Why shall I go 'educate myself' about all this through the exercise of my upper conscious and learning by heart if all that is ALREADY THERE?"

This is a big subject. I guess it depends on your intent...what are you seeking, specifically, bc until you are clear, you will be drawn to all kinds of teachings, maybe in order to clarify what you want. You say you aren't interested per se in "enlightenment," so some of the 'knowing' available at that level (had by a very small fraction, anyway) would not be conferred.

At some point in the seeker's education about spiritual matters, he naturally decides to put down the books and just BE...just LIVE the knowingness. In terms of mysticism, the seeker wants to read the accounts and experiences of the Masters that have gone before him in order to understand and place his/her own experience in the greater context. It helps. On many levels.
Even Eckhart Tolle, in his own enlightenment experience didn't get what happened until much later, when he read the accounts of Masters.

One thing I have seen over and over with clients - they want to be "spiritual," and they have 20 bookcases filled with "spiritual" books...they keep reading, expecting something to happen. They keep going to seminars and classes. Some say they don't know enough yet. Maybe they don't feel ready to do the real work, which is doing, loving, being. I ask how they are applying what they are learning, and I tell them that one way you will know if you've changed is when your thoughts have changed - and when you don't react defensively. I tell them they are ready.

What are you seeking?

Czymra · 01-22-2009, 12:12 AM

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Originally Posted by ucan

unfortunately this time round there are no leaders, teacher, guru's or trusted mentors and because of this we are very fortunate.

I think you're very right here. I never really had a single teacher for any thing.

Dakini, thanks for coming in. I have been feeling like I'm the one who asks all the questions no one else asks for some time.

What I am seeking is a knowing of myself. I'm working on myself emotionally every day and have come SO FAR in the last half year. It's amazing. In fact, it's quite funny you'd reply here because, I don't quite know how to put it, yesterday or so, things around me became alive and organic, and I understood that I'm no longer me among others, I've always believed that the world is my mirror, but suddenly it's like I know that what's 'out there' IS me and it allows me to see myself even in what is usually most repelling and frightening.
(Really, I sat on the tube and my mind suddenly interpreted the train carriage as a living moving cave, like an organism [of flesh if you will, that's actually it but that sounds yuck, ne?])
It's a little too intellectual still at the moment but hey, it's a comin!

What I really want to know is about my past lives, lost time and dreams, all that stuff I forgot. At the moment I'm not sure I should, but I'd be curious what I did the other times around. It might shed more light on what I'm here for this time round.
Then again, all I can do is concentrate even more to be aware.

futureyes · 01-22-2009, 12:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Czymra

I think you're very right here. I never really had a single teacher for any thing.

Dakini, thanks for coming in. I have been feeling like I'm the one who asks all the questions no one else asks for some time.

What I am seeking is a knowing of myself. I'm working on myself emotionally every day and have come SO FAR in the last half year. It's amazing. In fact, it's quite funny you'd reply here because, I don't quite know how to put it, yesterday or so, things around me became alive and organic, and I understood that I'm no longer me among others, I've always believed that the world is my mirror, but suddenly it's like I know that what's 'out there' IS me and it allows me to see myself even in what is usually most repelling and frightening.
(Really, I sat on the tube and my mind suddenly interpreted the train carriage as a living moving cave, like an organism [of flesh if you will, that's actually it but that sounds yuck, ne?])
It's a little too intellectual still at the moment but hey, it's a comin!

What I really want to know is about my past lives, lost time and dreams, all that stuff I forgot. At the moment I'm not sure I should, but I'd be curious what I did the other times around. It might shed more light on what I'm here for this time round.
Then again, all I can do is concentrate even more to be aware.

czymra ...

you have boarded the train and it is picking up tremendous momentum for you ...

i am inspired by your journey more than i am of my own ...

blessings,

futureyes

Dakini · 01-22-2009, 09:05 PM

Czymra,
I do think there are some good, ethical, experienced teachers out there for various things; not gurus from my experience, but good teachers. I've studied with different people and when I outgrew them, they told me so, and I moved on. I think we already have our own teacher - the Soul Self - the eternal Self - that is directly connected to the Source.

I love addressing your question, bc it's what I do and enjoy... Here goes, for what it is worth:
RE:
What I am seeking is a knowing of myself. I'm working on myself emotionally every day and have come SO FAR in the last half year. It's amazing. In fact, it's quite funny you'd reply here because, I don't quite know how to put it, yesterday or so, things around me became alive and organic,
#Do you know that people can study and meditate their whole lives and never come to this basic but supreme knowing? That everything and all beings are connected. For students, often the first awareness is mental...then it becomes emotional, then it moves to a level of 'feeling.' It then moves to a causal and spiritual levels, etc. and can be fully integrated within your being. When we truly feel the experience of this connection, this state of being, we can then 'know' on all levels of our being. I think these initial types of realizations are happening to people all around the world.

#This is an exciting time for you; but then with this initial realization we begin to see that we indeed have a responsibility to everyone and everything. The final result of living as if we are connected/part of the whole...is that we can then begin to ask if we are ready to live this way, every minute of every day...are we connected, or are we still critical of family, government, etc? I'm not saying we have no discernment, but where is the crux of our being? In a state of 'love,' or in a state of fear or anger? It is a long road.

(Really, I sat on the tube and my mind suddenly interpreted the train carriage as a living moving cave, like an organism [of flesh if you will, that's actually it but that sounds yuck, ne?])
It's a little too intellectual still at the moment but hey, it's a comin!
##It's where you need to be. All good

"...and I understood that I'm no longer me among others, I've always believed that the world is my mirror, but suddenly it's like I know that what's 'out there' IS me and it allows me to see myself even in what is usually most repelling and frightening.
#This sense of Self-transparency is classic of the process of awakening. Often dreams at this juncture will feature destruction, the calcionato of fires, purification, skeletons, goo, filth. This is good in this respect. The question is, how can you balance and integrate the shadow (unconscious) part of you, and allow the illuminated part (conscious) of you to come forth? Many people will say that the shadow is the dark side, but in the awakening process, the shadow serves a purpose...the ego is also really attached to the shadow, so if we try to repress it, it will bear down on us and show its power. One way to pay homage to the shadow and the light is to make art...one easy way is to create a series of mandalas each week and watch how they change.

[I]What I really want to know is about my past lives, lost time and dreams, all that stuff I forgot. At the moment I'm not sure I should, but I'd be curious what I did the other times around. It might shed more light on what I'm here for this time round. [I]

#I would offer this: if you are not sure you should, then keep asking outloud if you should. The great Mystics and Masters have revealed that their old selves were disintegrated...they had been changed, transformed, transfigured. They allow it to happen. They do not grasp the past. In the Shaman's initiation is the death and rebirth. They seem to place their beingness in who they are, not who they used to be.

It might shed more light on what I'm here for this time round.
#Yes, it could. Unless you are experiencing mental, emotional or other pressing problems, you might not be drawn to past life regression. Often dream enactment is powerful to move through blockages. If you feel stuck, both dreamwork and regression can help, though. I've seen it help.
You can start your dreamwork now, if you remember dreams. Write them in the present tense. Do it as soon as you wake up. Record them in a special journal. After a few weeks, go back and read the dream. Underline the messages that will surface. Go back to the dreams periodically, and you will see even more revealed, and underline those sentences, too. This is a multi-dimensional way to work with the psyche. If you need further help, Jungian analysts are very helpful in this regard.

#NorthernSanctuary gave a source for regression via Dolores Cannon, though she comes from a particular school of thought, re ETs, etc.

It might shed more light on what I'm here for this time round.
#So another question you have is what is your purpose. You are already living one of them. Maybe you could ask, "Spirit, will you guide me to experience my life purpose?" And see what comes up.

Then again, all I can do is concentrate even more to be aware.
We cannot think our way, with the brain alone, to awareness. We can, however, catch ourselves asleep and refocus with the mind. As soon as you find yourself ruminating, being angry or fearful, you can inwardly acknowledge that, stop doing that, and let it go, and then 'reconnect." One of the first ways to stay aware is to acknowledge when we are not.

#Trained as a psychotherapist, I can tell you that some people don't necessarily get helped by simply knowing Why...They are often more helped by knowing why (bringing awareness in), but then shifting behavior and thought. Because you can know why but keep doing the same stupid behavior that gets you into trouble. This is where awareness is key - and how consistency in healthy action and choice can help us heal.

#This path is a lifelong one...I know I am still working on it, too. I had some anger come up at a family member, and I was disappointed in my lack of compassion at something I said...I really thought I was beyond that reaction. Nope. I used that experience as a measuring tool. I asked for help in this regard, and the very next morning, awoke with no anger at all. Sometimes it works

Czymra · 01-22-2009, 11:16 PM

Thanks, those are certainly good points that I'll keep in mind.

I did write down my dreams when they are real enough. Often it's just a sauce of feel and presence. Hard to put into words.

To be honest about the 'past life' experiences. I'm curious and I have the idea that it'd be reassuring to recognise my talents in past professions or so, but it's not really necessary.

If anything is necessary than it's that I don't freak out when I aware in the dark. On a side note there, do after images (or light in my minds eye if you wish, they certainly look like afterimages though, so maybe it's just my eyes) cascade over entities in space?

01-11-2009, 05:49 PM	#1
Czymra Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Germany Posts: 1,151	Spiritual Afterburner? Greetings, Allow me to be 'silly' for a minute here. Now after I read the Jake Simpson post on Camelot I've become a little bit discouraged like likely many others. Eating survival food or Sauron paranoia may be some side-effects but I really just came up with one question: Christ, ain't there something like a spiritual afterburner? I suppose that like me, many of you are convinced that human beings can do much of what is achieved technologically simply on their own, if they only grasped how. Now, I don't mind going through my banalities and sorting out my emotional disposition and all that. In fact I can enjoy it. Nevertheless, I find that in order to do good to this world it might be quite handy to know when Sauron's eye is watching or get freed from the 'backwards' ways of communication because you can telepathically connect with whoever you wish anyway. So is there a tick list or a blueprint? I know there is misinformation and all that to keep you from enlightenment. Now I'm not asking for enlightenment here, I'd gladly go down my path, but to have a little bit of a higher understanding of this would be well appreciated. Now, you might tell me that this is the 'path to the dark side' and that it is only my 'ego' requesting this so I can feel better about myself. That may well be true, and if so, go ahead, please tell me... but you know, supposedly I recognise symbols subconsciously, know what's right intuitively and all that, so what is all the studying for? Why shall I go 'educate myself' about all this through the exercise of my upper conscious and learning by heart if all that is ALREADY THERE? I'm a part of this fractal, I shouldn't need to learn about it so if any of you have a notion of what I'm getting at, I'm up for suggestions. (By the way, I won't bargain with the devil. )

01-11-2009, 05:56 PM	#2
Czymra Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Germany Posts: 1,151	Re: Spiritual Afterburner? By the way, with all this that I hear on Avalon and Camelot, shouldn't it be possible for people to dream fasten, to pass on their knowledge Highlander style? If so, why hasn't there been a wave of that happening yet?

01-13-2009, 01:35 PM	#6
Josefine Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 229	Re: Spiritual Afterburner? To speed up the process the Egyptians hit their students of higher learning with a blow to the head, according to TGW777. Even if they knew how to place it and with what force, maybe they lost a few? Sound, on the other hand, may offer a more gentle, but not less efficient, 'blow' that affects the nooks and crannies of the brain and the bones of our body. The brain and the body turns into a resonance case, and is subtly affected in the right direction that we are talking about here. The musical system that sets A=432 Hz is labelled a Scientific Musical Tuning, a natural tuning of our consciousness by gently massaging our inner 'technology'. Currently the note A has been set to 440 Hz in our standardized musial system. (Nazi Germany set A=440 as the universal standard in 1939, hmmm...) A=432 fits the Phi perfectly, and tuning the musial scale according to this standard makes music a wonderful tool for raising our consciousness, it resonates throughout our body. Here is a link where you may learn more: www.432hz.net There is also the gift that Tom Kenyon received as musical messages from the Archangels: http://www.soundtravels.co.uk/kenyon...ls-p-2679.html There you'll find a treasure trove of muscial tools for our awakening.

01-13-2009, 02:25 PM	#7
Czymra Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Germany Posts: 1,151	Re: Spiritual Afterburner? Hm... I've just started studying this on it's theoretic side for the Nexus event. It's hard to believe that it actually makes a difference, I certainly haven't felt anything yet by listening to 432Hz music but I'll keep it in mind. Thanks.

01-13-2009, 03:25 PM	#8
futureyes Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: heart central Posts: 798	Re: Spiritual Afterburner? the multitude of questions we ask our selves on this journey become less significant when we arrive at the knowing that the significance lies in no longer asking the questions but living the answers ... we are the answer ... stand upon the edge of a cliff of a canyon, look far below, see there is great distance between your self and the ground below ... know there is no one else around you, feel you are safe ... close your eyes, extend your arms out by your side, feel the wind upon your face and around your self ... listen to the wind, allow it to now flow through you, feel oneness with the what it speaks ... feel love within your heart ... now jump ... allow your self to feel your initial fright, allow your self to know you have no parachute, feel it ... then feel what else is occuring ... suddenly you feel a change, suddenly you feel safe, suddenly you feel your wings, you did not know you had wings until that moment, where did they come from ... know it is irrelavent how they arrived but that you have them ... experience how suddenly you feel anything and everything is possible, now that you have wings ... feel oneness with the canyon, feel how the wind is your friend ... now lift your wings ... and fly ... no longer are you the person you were standing at the top of the canyon ... no longer do you have the fright of what lies below you, the fear that you will not make it down safely and perhaps perish ... what was no longer has significance, the questions which ran through your mind at the top no longer matter ... fear no longer exists ... you trusted no other than your self and in doing so, you found your wings ... now you fly ... now you begin to live ... ... trust your self ...

01-14-2009, 02:43 AM	#9
asteram Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Isla de Margarita, Venezuela Posts: 161	Re: Spiritual Afterburner? Czymra- It is easy enough for someone to say that we all have access to all information. Likely it is true on some level, but the question is do I have access to all information? We all have the abiliity to play a musical instrument too, but it isn't going to happen without practice and it's nice to have some lessons and some theory; some need more than others. In consciousness, some of us are more "stuck" than others. I was one of those; the desire and drive I had, the ability to reach higher levels though was not an easy thing. In my case I needed a teacher who knew his stuff and could, and would, push me far beyond any amount I would push myself, far beyond the level of strength and stamina that I thought I had. I don't have any teachers like that to recommend, unfortunately, but if you really want to advance in consciousness and you keep looking you may find one. The key is discernment; keep asking the difficult questions and don't settle for answers that don't ring true to you. For general work on accessing more of your brain, I would recommend the Insight CD from Awakened Minds. It is quite powerful and worth the cost.

01-14-2009, 02:44 AM	#10
asteram Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Isla de Margarita, Venezuela Posts: 161	Re: Spiritual Afterburner? Duplicate Post Last edited by asteram; 01-14-2009 at 02:47 AM.

01-14-2009, 08:06 AM	#11
Czymra Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Germany Posts: 1,151	Re: Spiritual Afterburner? My mind does orbit around a teacher and my eyes are open, yet nothing turned up, yet. I can't leave the feeling that I just need to find a way to unlock myself. "Everything is known to me but somehow beyond my reach." Major Briggs, Twin Peaks

01-14-2009, 12:00 PM	#12
ucan Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 85	Re: Spiritual Afterburner? unfortunately this time round there are no leaders, teacher, guru's or trusted mentors and because of this we are very fortunate.

01-21-2009, 09:33 PM	#14
Dakini Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Connecticut Posts: 152	Re: Spiritual Afterburner? I love your willingness to ask questions. So is there a tick list or a blueprint? I think the tangible blueprint is in our DNA. "...so what is all the studying for? Why shall I go 'educate myself' about all this through the exercise of my upper conscious and learning by heart if all that is ALREADY THERE?" This is a big subject. I guess it depends on your intent...what are you seeking, specifically, bc until you are clear, you will be drawn to all kinds of teachings, maybe in order to clarify what you want. You say you aren't interested per se in "enlightenment," so some of the 'knowing' available at that level (had by a very small fraction, anyway) would not be conferred. At some point in the seeker's education about spiritual matters, he naturally decides to put down the books and just BE...just LIVE the knowingness. In terms of mysticism, the seeker wants to read the accounts and experiences of the Masters that have gone before him in order to understand and place his/her own experience in the greater context. It helps. On many levels. Even Eckhart Tolle, in his own enlightenment experience didn't get what happened until much later, when he read the accounts of Masters. One thing I have seen over and over with clients - they want to be "spiritual," and they have 20 bookcases filled with "spiritual" books...they keep reading, expecting something to happen. They keep going to seminars and classes. Some say they don't know enough yet. Maybe they don't feel ready to do the real work, which is doing, loving, being. I ask how they are applying what they are learning, and I tell them that one way you will know if you've changed is when your thoughts have changed - and when you don't react defensively. I tell them they are ready. What are you seeking?

01-22-2009, 09:05 PM	#17
Dakini Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Connecticut Posts: 152	Re: Spiritual Afterburner? Czymra, I do think there are some good, ethical, experienced teachers out there for various things; not gurus from my experience, but good teachers. I've studied with different people and when I outgrew them, they told me so, and I moved on. I think we already have our own teacher - the Soul Self - the eternal Self - that is directly connected to the Source. I love addressing your question, bc it's what I do and enjoy... Here goes, for what it is worth: RE: What I am seeking is a knowing of myself. I'm working on myself emotionally every day and have come SO FAR in the last half year. It's amazing. In fact, it's quite funny you'd reply here because, I don't quite know how to put it, yesterday or so, things around me became alive and organic, #Do you know that people can study and meditate their whole lives and never come to this basic but supreme knowing? That everything and all beings are connected. For students, often the first awareness is mental...then it becomes emotional, then it moves to a level of 'feeling.' It then moves to a causal and spiritual levels, etc. and can be fully integrated within your being. When we truly feel the experience of this connection, this state of being, we can then 'know' on all levels of our being. I think these initial types of realizations are happening to people all around the world. #This is an exciting time for you; but then with this initial realization we begin to see that we indeed have a responsibility to everyone and everything. The final result of living as if we are connected/part of the whole...is that we can then begin to ask if we are ready to live this way, every minute of every day...are we connected, or are we still critical of family, government, etc? I'm not saying we have no discernment, but where is the crux of our being? In a state of 'love,' or in a state of fear or anger? It is a long road. (Really, I sat on the tube and my mind suddenly interpreted the train carriage as a living moving cave, like an organism [of flesh if you will, that's actually it but that sounds yuck, ne?]) It's a little too intellectual still at the moment but hey, it's a comin! ##It's where you need to be. All good "...and I understood that I'm no longer me among others, I've always believed that the world is my mirror, but suddenly it's like I know that what's 'out there' IS me and it allows me to see myself even in what is usually most repelling and frightening. #This sense of Self-transparency is classic of the process of awakening. Often dreams at this juncture will feature destruction, the calcionato of fires, purification, skeletons, goo, filth. This is good in this respect. The question is, how can you balance and integrate the shadow (unconscious) part of you, and allow the illuminated part (conscious) of you to come forth? Many people will say that the shadow is the dark side, but in the awakening process, the shadow serves a purpose...the ego is also really attached to the shadow, so if we try to repress it, it will bear down on us and show its power. One way to pay homage to the shadow and the light is to make art...one easy way is to create a series of mandalas each week and watch how they change. [I]What I really want to know is about my past lives, lost time and dreams, all that stuff I forgot. At the moment I'm not sure I should, but I'd be curious what I did the other times around. It might shed more light on what I'm here for this time round. [I] #I would offer this: if you are not sure you should, then keep asking outloud if you should. The great Mystics and Masters have revealed that their old selves were disintegrated...they had been changed, transformed, transfigured. They allow it to happen. They do not grasp the past. In the Shaman's initiation is the death and rebirth. They seem to place their beingness in who they are, not who they used to be. It might shed more light on what I'm here for this time round. #Yes, it could. Unless you are experiencing mental, emotional or other pressing problems, you might not be drawn to past life regression. Often dream enactment is powerful to move through blockages. If you feel stuck, both dreamwork and regression can help, though. I've seen it help. You can start your dreamwork now, if you remember dreams. Write them in the present tense. Do it as soon as you wake up. Record them in a special journal. After a few weeks, go back and read the dream. Underline the messages that will surface. Go back to the dreams periodically, and you will see even more revealed, and underline those sentences, too. This is a multi-dimensional way to work with the psyche. If you need further help, Jungian analysts are very helpful in this regard. #NorthernSanctuary gave a source for regression via Dolores Cannon, though she comes from a particular school of thought, re ETs, etc. It might shed more light on what I'm here for this time round. #So another question you have is what is your purpose. You are already living one of them. Maybe you could ask, "Spirit, will you guide me to experience my life purpose?" And see what comes up. Then again, all I can do is concentrate even more to be aware. We cannot think our way, with the brain alone, to awareness. We can, however, catch ourselves asleep and refocus with the mind. As soon as you find yourself ruminating, being angry or fearful, you can inwardly acknowledge that, stop doing that, and let it go, and then 'reconnect." One of the first ways to stay aware is to acknowledge when we are not. #Trained as a psychotherapist, I can tell you that some people don't necessarily get helped by simply knowing Why...They are often more helped by knowing why (bringing awareness in), but then shifting behavior and thought. Because you can know why but keep doing the same stupid behavior that gets you into trouble. This is where awareness is key - and how consistency in healthy action and choice can help us heal. #This path is a lifelong one...I know I am still working on it, too. I had some anger come up at a family member, and I was disappointed in my lack of compassion at something I said...I really thought I was beyond that reaction. Nope. I used that experience as a measuring tool. I asked for help in this regard, and the very next morning, awoke with no anger at all. Sometimes it works

01-22-2009, 11:16 PM	#18
Czymra Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Germany Posts: 1,151	Re: Spiritual Afterburner? Thanks, those are certainly good points that I'll keep in mind. I did write down my dreams when they are real enough. Often it's just a sauce of feel and presence. Hard to put into words. To be honest about the 'past life' experiences. I'm curious and I have the idea that it'd be reassuring to recognise my talents in past professions or so, but it's not really necessary. If anything is necessary than it's that I don't freak out when I aware in the dark. On a side note there, do after images (or light in my minds eye if you wish, they certainly look like afterimages though, so maybe it's just my eyes) cascade over entities in space?