I can't see a postive future with Obama

LiquidSwordz · 11-05-2008, 10:05 PM

Well, i have been reading up on David Wilcock's optimistic view on Obama, but i just can't digest a positive future with him in office. I'll explain why below.

It's true that the destruction of the NWO/Global Elite is happening, but the question is, how will the NWO respond, or how will they want to go out? If they go down, wouldn't they try to take the rest of the world with them? Don't they own 40-50% of the world?

Now that Obama is offically president, aren't the NWO going to have a plan to strike back, to take back their control? Maybe a planned assassination attempt? Global collapse? Global calamity? Biological attack? I think we all have to realize, that the people who control this world have infinite money, and can bribe anyone to do there biddings.

Since we all know Obama has a huge inexperiance on "international relations", wouldn't countries like Iran, China, North Korea, and Russia find this opportunity, "a perfect time to strike?" To control more of their resources? For example, China pushes for Taiwan, Iran pushes for Israel, North Korea pushes for South Korea, and Russia goes back into Georgia? The next four years might get crazy.

I have a sense, something big will be coming before 2012. The only solution i can think of is this. The only way that this World War 3 scenario can be prevented, is if Obama declared a full disclosure on black operations/underground projects etc. This would result to free energy, proof of ET's, cures to all cancers/diseases, time travel, and flourishing crops etc. Now nations would have no reason to go to war with each other, because of the disclosure of infinite/free resources.

Do i see this happening? umm NO

I don't think World War 3 will start because of countries hating each other, it will start because of "RESOURCES". Well, this is just something for you guys to think about, because this is my view of the future.

Anticomuna · 11-05-2008, 10:15 PM

The only word I have for David Wilcock is "fool".

http://www.faithfreedom.org/obama.html

777 The Great Work · 11-05-2008, 11:46 PM

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THE eXchanger · 11-06-2008, 12:02 AM

"dead" people do NOT produce

"alive" spirits can cause problems

so, it is time for people to become "live wires"

start connecting only to eXchanges you agree with

you are the master behind, all the eXchanges you choose to allow

time to start, eXchanging differently

and, perhaps, it is time, for some people
to seriously consider,
what being "in service" to others,
is really all about

maybe, within the next 4 years
"real people" will "surface" to serve others
if it is going to be, it is up to "us"

love
susan
the eXchanger

tonyob1 · 11-06-2008, 12:05 AM

i am getting visions of hitler and the nuremberg rallies mass hysteria and german people hanging on to his every word....germany was in an economic crisis as well the usa now

Adarajones · 11-06-2008, 12:27 AM

"I don't know if you want to hear what I have to tell you"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yQ3Hk....blogspot.com/

11-06-2008, 01:25 AM

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Anticomuna · 11-06-2008, 01:33 AM

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Originally Posted by WineHippie

i have one word for the info found at that link:
garbage

Yeah, right. Obama is all humility and not a little selfish. He is all about reality, isn't he?

The text is very good! Because if the Obamaists didn't like then it is good.

Magamud · 11-06-2008, 01:38 AM

One of the great attractions of patriotism - it fulfills our worst wishes. In the person of our nation we are able, vicariously, to bully and cheat. Bully and cheat, what's more, with a feeling that we are profoundly virtuous.
Aldous Huxley

Humble Janitor · 11-06-2008, 07:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anticomuna

The only word I have for David Wilcock is "fool".

http://www.faithfreedom.org/obama.html

It's easy for you to call him a fool just because you disagree with him on Obama.

Humble Janitor · 11-06-2008, 07:57 AM

Let me propose a question to folks who strongly dislike Obama:

Would it have been any better if John McCain had been elected instead? Would people be talking **** about McCain the way they are about Obama? Would McCain supporters be called "McCainists" and McCain be compared to the anti-christ?

What about third party candidates? Naderites and Paulites?

Again, I am wary of people who are excessively negative and radiate nothing but negative energy. I am also wary of people who openly call other people fools and act with an elitist attitude.

isotelesis · 11-06-2008, 08:07 AM

Let's see what he can do, I don't doubt his integrity, but he faces an uphill battle.

Slerbot · 11-06-2008, 08:28 AM

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Seeker Mom · 11-06-2008, 09:18 AM

Why would anyone think Obama isn't part of the NWO? That amazes me. Of course he's part of their plan. All of our candidates were. They are probably ecstatic that so many people are thrilled with his victory. These happy people will more readily accept their new plans for us. It's sort of sad, really.

KassandraLoves · 11-06-2008, 09:47 AM

Why do we have to drag in a guy like David Wilcock to all this political bickering??? He's never done a dang thing that was negative and all he does is create positivity IMHO. If he finds it in Obama and so do others? TO HECK WITH IT. Let them be HAPPY. EVEN if that happiness is a lie, it will only lead to opportunities for AWAKENING, wont it? people MUST make mistakes to learn and move forwards.

Take it, or leave it. People are happy about this whether you like it or not. You dont see the Obama supporters calling his non-supporters Jerks and stupid and "sheeple" do you? I havent seen that YET.

In fact, almost every single post from an Obama supporter here has NOTHING but good things to say. No one is attacking the non-Obama-ists. I wonder why that is....

Either way, can we just QUIT THIS DAMN ARGUING ALREADY!? I feel like the illuminati have us all on their little strings and are joyfully laughing that their "politcal illusion" is being SUCCESSFUL at tearing us apart from one another....And I just wont let that happen on my end.

I dont care if ya love him or not, we are all STILL in this together. And I guess if your job is to be the YIN, and mine to be the YANG or vice versa, then so be it....

I think im just about finished with reading any thread that says obama in it out of pure exhaustion....And I havent even been on this forum for more than 2 weeks yet.....

Anticomuna · 11-06-2008, 01:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Humble Janitor

Again, I am wary of people who are excessively negative and radiate nothing but negative energy. I am also wary of people who openly call other people fools and act with an elitist attitude.

Asking questions is being elitist now? Do the folksy people give up their reason silently, or at least screaming Obama's name in some rally?

Anticomuna · 11-06-2008, 01:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Slerbot

But, Obama just looks like a fairly straight, healthy middle aged black guy..he has an ego - well, surprise! they ALL do!

And he lies and lies and lies and lies and lies... Manipulative, needs to be admired, even though he hasn't done anything to deserve it. The article is spot on.

The fact that you can't point a single falsehood from the article (the author cites links to real reports from real journalists) is a good sign. All you can is ad hominem attacks.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Slerbot

You do wonder about some of these negative posts, no grounding...and some of the white-ish people making them.

Humm, most blacks voted for Obama. It was 100% racially driven vote. This is racism, plain and simple. They voted for the guy, not because he had anything to say or do, but because of his color. Take a look at whites, many supported him. Who are the racists?

How do you know people critizing Obama are white? Did the orbs of light around your messiah told you that?

Obama is nothing, has done nothing, came from nothing and went to nothing. The hysteria around him and all the worshiping is evidence of the irrationality of what is going on.

Only fools and followers of fools don't see it.

Jenny · 11-06-2008, 01:46 PM

What you see is who you are.

The filter of your own senses and beliefs and convictions is showing you who you are.

Don't like what you see? Or feel? Or hear?

Know thyself.

Jenny

Anticomuna · 11-06-2008, 01:48 PM

Did you find out yet if Obama is the reincarnation of Lincoln? Or Kennedy? Or of some grand master of the great white lodge (!?) ?

This is so f**cking ridiculous.

ANYTHING THAT TAKES AWAY REASON FROM PEOPLE IS BAD.

I thought the Republicans received the victory very well, I think they got happy about it. Why? Why would Bush and company be happy with it? Maybe because it is part of the plan and it worked out perfectly?

This NWO is good. If they weren't evil I would even admire them. Seriously, this one was so intellectually beautiful, and people around are so dumb, that I am starting to think that they actually deserve to have a NWO.

KassandraLoves · 11-06-2008, 07:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anticomuna

ANYTHING THAT TAKES AWAY REASON FROM PEOPLE IS BAD.

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Who are we to say something like this? Are we all seeing and all knowing to claim for sure when something is just plain BAD and no good will ever come of it???

Bad = AN OPPORTUNITY TO LEARN. my friend. Bad is the gateway to choose negative or positive. THATS WHY the universe is set up as a YIN and a YANG. WE MUST experience the bad to have one single iota of understanding for the good. And from that point we can choose which way we'd like to go, right? Of course we'd all like to keep everything positive (I hope) and never have to deal with the "bad."

But, theres only ONE way to learn how to swim, dear. And thats to jump into the goddam pool.

If the illuminati have plans with all of this? SO BE IT. Light will prevail as it always does. We need not obsess or worry over their schemes. We need to immerse ourselves in the the ONLY THING that can battle darkness...and that folks, is THE LIGHT. Mine is shining bright and full....is yours????

Love and light to you all....

Lotus · 11-06-2008, 11:17 PM

For a minute I thought I'd stumbled on the Rush Limbaugh hate Obama web site. Must be dreaming.

Anticomuna · 11-07-2008, 12:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Lotus

For a minute I thought I'd stumbled on the Rush Limbaugh hate Obama web site. Must be dreaming.

You can't imagine my surprise when I logged on Avalon today and found a Obamaist site. Worshipers spreading the good news about the messiah that has just come and will "heal the world".

I challenge you to check one by one my messages. You will see that they were responses to fanaticism. Nobody here is interested in attacking anybody, but the Obamaites want to herd new believers.

tonyob1 · 11-07-2008, 12:42 AM

obamas sudden god like status scares the living day lights out of me

tony

sebring1963 · 11-07-2008, 01:33 AM

fear rears its ugly head in the form of well contrived euphemisms

Kelphi · 11-07-2008, 02:22 AM

You know something. All throughout the presidential elections I could not stand Obama. I was so plaqued with fatigue and ill feeling all during his acceptance speech. I remembered something that was written on my heart as a young child. God has the kings of this world in the palm of His hand. And at that moment I so did not want to come to terms with that.

So I prayed out of faith knowing that Gods word is true as I turned off the TV and I sat back down I ask the Lord to forgive me of my disbelief and mistrust in Him and over all dismal attitude toward the whole election and at that moment I did something you would not believe.

I continued to pray for Obama and his family that they would be protected from the Illuminati and against the wiles of the devil and his demons. And that God would grant to Obama the shed blood of Jesus Christ to his sin debt.

11-05-2008, 10:05 PM	#1
LiquidSwordz Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: San diego, ca Posts: 84	I can't see a postive future with Obama Well, i have been reading up on David Wilcock's optimistic view on Obama, but i just can't digest a positive future with him in office. I'll explain why below. It's true that the destruction of the NWO/Global Elite is happening, but the question is, how will the NWO respond, or how will they want to go out? If they go down, wouldn't they try to take the rest of the world with them? Don't they own 40-50% of the world? Now that Obama is offically president, aren't the NWO going to have a plan to strike back, to take back their control? Maybe a planned assassination attempt? Global collapse? Global calamity? Biological attack? I think we all have to realize, that the people who control this world have infinite money, and can bribe anyone to do there biddings. Since we all know Obama has a huge inexperiance on "international relations", wouldn't countries like Iran, China, North Korea, and Russia find this opportunity, "a perfect time to strike?" To control more of their resources? For example, China pushes for Taiwan, Iran pushes for Israel, North Korea pushes for South Korea, and Russia goes back into Georgia? The next four years might get crazy. I have a sense, something big will be coming before 2012. The only solution i can think of is this. The only way that this World War 3 scenario can be prevented, is if Obama declared a full disclosure on black operations/underground projects etc. This would result to free energy, proof of ET's, cures to all cancers/diseases, time travel, and flourishing crops etc. Now nations would have no reason to go to war with each other, because of the disclosure of infinite/free resources. Do i see this happening? umm NO I don't think World War 3 will start because of countries hating each other, it will start because of "RESOURCES". Well, this is just something for you guys to think about, because this is my view of the future.

11-05-2008, 10:15 PM	#2
Anticomuna Banned Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 116	Re: I can't see a postive future with Obama The only word I have for David Wilcock is "fool". http://www.faithfreedom.org/obama.html

11-05-2008, 11:46 PM	#3
777 The Great Work Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: At the doors of perception Posts: 2,135	Re: I can't see a postive future with Obama URL=http://freshimagehosting.com/][/URL] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kBqiee2RM60

11-06-2008, 12:02 AM	#4
THE eXchanger Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Spiritual eXplorer-Canada Posts: 4,915	Re: I can't see a postive future with Obama "dead" people do NOT produce "alive" spirits can cause problems so, it is time for people to become "live wires" start connecting only to eXchanges you agree with you are the master behind, all the eXchanges you choose to allow time to start, eXchanging differently and, perhaps, it is time, for some people to seriously consider, what being "in service" to others, is really all about maybe, within the next 4 years "real people" will "surface" to serve others if it is going to be, it is up to "us" love susan the eXchanger

11-06-2008, 12:05 AM	#5
tonyob1 Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: ireland Posts: 24	Re: I can't see a postive future with Obama i am getting visions of hitler and the nuremberg rallies mass hysteria and german people hanging on to his every word....germany was in an economic crisis as well the usa now

11-06-2008, 12:27 AM	#6
Adarajones Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Third Planet of our solar system Posts: 104	Re: I can't see a postive future with Obama "I don't know if you want to hear what I have to tell you" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yQ3Hk....blogspot.com/

11-06-2008, 01:25 AM	#7
WineHippie Guest Posts: n/a	Re: I can't see a postive future with Obama * Last edited by WineHippie; 11-07-2008 at 03:40 AM.

11-06-2008, 01:38 AM	#9
Magamud Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: North Carolina Posts: 288	Re: I can't see a postive future with Obama One of the great attractions of patriotism - it fulfills our worst wishes. In the person of our nation we are able, vicariously, to bully and cheat. Bully and cheat, what's more, with a feeling that we are profoundly virtuous. Aldous Huxley

11-06-2008, 07:57 AM	#11
Humble Janitor Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 3,201	Re: I can't see a postive future with Obama Let me propose a question to folks who strongly dislike Obama: Would it have been any better if John McCain had been elected instead? Would people be talking **** about McCain the way they are about Obama? Would McCain supporters be called "McCainists" and McCain be compared to the anti-christ? What about third party candidates? Naderites and Paulites? Again, I am wary of people who are excessively negative and radiate nothing but negative energy. I am also wary of people who openly call other people fools and act with an elitist attitude.

11-06-2008, 08:07 AM	#12
isotelesis Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 112	Re: I can't see a postive future with Obama Let's see what he can do, I don't doubt his integrity, but he faces an uphill battle.

11-06-2008, 08:28 AM	#13
Slerbot Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Outer Towne, Orstralia Posts: 36	Re: I can't see a postive future with Obama ----- Last edited by Slerbot; 02-16-2010 at 09:08 AM.

11-06-2008, 09:18 AM	#14
Seeker Mom Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 73	Re: I can't see a postive future with Obama Why would anyone think Obama isn't part of the NWO? That amazes me. Of course he's part of their plan. All of our candidates were. They are probably ecstatic that so many people are thrilled with his victory. These happy people will more readily accept their new plans for us. It's sort of sad, really.

11-06-2008, 09:47 AM	#15
KassandraLoves Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: WA, USA Posts: 187	Re: I can't see a postive future with Obama Why do we have to drag in a guy like David Wilcock to all this political bickering??? He's never done a dang thing that was negative and all he does is create positivity IMHO. If he finds it in Obama and so do others? TO HECK WITH IT. Let them be HAPPY. EVEN if that happiness is a lie, it will only lead to opportunities for AWAKENING, wont it? people MUST make mistakes to learn and move forwards. Take it, or leave it. People are happy about this whether you like it or not. You dont see the Obama supporters calling his non-supporters Jerks and stupid and "sheeple" do you? I havent seen that YET. In fact, almost every single post from an Obama supporter here has NOTHING but good things to say. No one is attacking the non-Obama-ists. I wonder why that is.... Either way, can we just QUIT THIS DAMN ARGUING ALREADY!? I feel like the illuminati have us all on their little strings and are joyfully laughing that their "politcal illusion" is being SUCCESSFUL at tearing us apart from one another....And I just wont let that happen on my end. I dont care if ya love him or not, we are all STILL in this together. And I guess if your job is to be the YIN, and mine to be the YANG or vice versa, then so be it.... I think im just about finished with reading any thread that says obama in it out of pure exhaustion....And I havent even been on this forum for more than 2 weeks yet.....

11-06-2008, 01:46 PM	#18
Jenny Project Avalon Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 496	Re: I can't see a postive future with Obama What you see is who you are. The filter of your own senses and beliefs and convictions is showing you who you are. Don't like what you see? Or feel? Or hear? Know thyself. Jenny __________________

11-06-2008, 01:48 PM	#19
Anticomuna Banned Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 116	Re: I can't see a postive future with Obama Did you find out yet if Obama is the reincarnation of Lincoln? Or Kennedy? Or of some grand master of the great white lodge (!?) ? This is so fcking ridiculous. ANYTHING THAT TAKES AWAY REASON FROM PEOPLE IS BAD**. I thought the Republicans received the victory very well, I think they got happy about it. Why? Why would Bush and company be happy with it? Maybe because it is part of the plan and it worked out perfectly? This NWO is good. If they weren't evil I would even admire them. Seriously, this one was so intellectually beautiful, and people around are so dumb, that I am starting to think that they actually deserve to have a NWO.

11-06-2008, 11:17 PM	#21
Lotus Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Hawaii Posts: 90	Re: I can't see a postive future with Obama For a minute I thought I'd stumbled on the Rush Limbaugh hate Obama web site. Must be dreaming.

11-07-2008, 12:42 AM	#23
tonyob1 Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: ireland Posts: 24	Re: I can't see a postive future with Obama obamas sudden god like status scares the living day lights out of me tony

11-07-2008, 01:33 AM	#24
sebring1963 Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Duarte, CA Posts: 70	Re: I can't see a postive future with Obama fear rears its ugly head in the form of well contrived euphemisms Last edited by sebring1963; 11-07-2008 at 01:59 AM.

11-07-2008, 02:22 AM	#25
Kelphi Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 107	Re: I can't see a postive future with Obama You know something. All throughout the presidential elections I could not stand Obama. I was so plaqued with fatigue and ill feeling all during his acceptance speech. I remembered something that was written on my heart as a young child. God has the kings of this world in the palm of His hand. And at that moment I so did not want to come to terms with that. So I prayed out of faith knowing that Gods word is true as I turned off the TV and I sat back down I ask the Lord to forgive me of my disbelief and mistrust in Him and over all dismal attitude toward the whole election and at that moment I did something you would not believe. I continued to pray for Obama and his family that they would be protected from the Illuminati and against the wiles of the devil and his demons. And that God would grant to Obama the shed blood of Jesus Christ to his sin debt.