Avalon General Discussion needs to focus on taking care of our ground crew

[Carol]

Project Avalon General Discussion is about finding safe places, information and resources for building communities, site suggestions.

In looking over the thread titles it crossed my mind that Avalon needs to be a place where folks can come and do their ground crew networking and work. It would be nice if the newsy news and more heavy news stays over in the Camelot Forum.

How do we sort out Avalon General News and Camelot General News?

Ask yourselves what do you consider ground crew news?

For example, earth changes that affect certain areas where members live is ground crew news. This includes weather and how to prepare. Some of this is already covered in the sub forums but what isn't covered is what is going on with the ground crew in affected areas. Also focus on what they are doing that works to deal with the situation they are in.

See the following examples of Ground Crew News sources:

Earth & Space Weather

Earth & Space Weather
Euro-Mediterranean Recent EQs
http://www.emsc-csem.org/index.php?page=home

HAARP Magnetometer
http://137.229.36.30/cgi-bin/magnetometer/gak-mag.cgi

IRIS (global earthquakes)
http://www.iris.edu/seismon/

Live Seismic Server
http://aslwww.cr.usgs.gov/Seismic_Data/heli2.shtml

National Weather Service Radar Loop
http://weather.noaa.gov/radar/mosaic...us.conus.shtml

SOHO Current Space Weather
http://sohowww.nascom.nasa.gov/

SpaceWeather.com
http://www.spaceweather.com/

USGS Recent EQs
http://earthquake.usgs.gov/eqcenter/index.php

US Naval Observatory Data Service
http://aa.usno.navy.mil/data/

Volcano Live
http://www.volcanolive.com/volcanolive.html

Science Daily (Health & Medicine/Mind & Brain/Living Well)
http://www.sciencedaily.com/


What would you consider Radiant Zone news?

For example uplifting stories where people are helping each other lets us know that there is hope and we are not alone. Humor is good too and that which focuses on our inner spirit is also essential.

Tap into the following Radiant Zone News:


Image changes every 60 seconds http://brainpaint.com/globalbrain.html

EGGS - Global Consciousness Project
http://noosphere.princeton.edu/bskto...tobserver.html

Dream Meanings and Dream Interpretation
http://www.freakydreams.com/

Sacred Road-Mayan
http://www.sacredroad.org/

Eclectic Energies- Chakras
http://www.eclecticenergies.com/chakras/

Please feel free to add your links.

We would appreciate it if you would adjust your posts accordingly and keep the focus on building a Radiant Zone here at Avalon.

Mahalo Nui Loa,

Carol

[Mike_Jetson]

Theres a ton that just need moving. many folk may not have got the emails about Camelot being open. If I were a mod id just go ahead and start moving them, people will realise eventually

[Carol]

Originally Posted by Mike_Jetson

Theres a ton that just need moving. many folk may not have got the emails about Camelot being open. If I were a mod id just go ahead and start moving them, people will realise eventually

Thanks Mike.

[Seva]

Originally Posted by Carol

Project Avalon General Discussion is about finding safe places, information and resources for building communities, site suggestions.

In looking over the thread titles it crossed my mind that Avalon needs to be a place where folks can come and do their ground crew networking and work. It would be nice if the newsy news and more heavy news stays over in the Camelot Forum.

How do we sort out Avalon General News and Camelot General News?

Ask yourselves what do you consider ground crew news?

For example, earth changes that affect certain areas where members live is ground crew news. This includes weather and how to prepare. Some of this is already covered in the sub forums but what isn't covered is what is going on with the ground crew in affected areas. Also focus on what they are doing that works to deal with the situation they are in.

See the following examples of Ground Crew News sources:

Earth & Space Weather

Earth & Space Weather
Euro-Mediterranean Recent EQs
http://www.emsc-csem.org/index.php?page=home

HAARP Magnetometer
http://137.229.36.30/cgi-bin/magnetometer/gak-mag.cgi

IRIS (global earthquakes)
http://www.iris.edu/seismon/

Live Seismic Server
http://aslwww.cr.usgs.gov/Seismic_Data/heli2.shtml

National Weather Service Radar Loop
http://weather.noaa.gov/radar/mosaic...us.conus.shtml

SOHO Current Space Weather
http://sohowww.nascom.nasa.gov/

SpaceWeather.com
http://www.spaceweather.com/

USGS Recent EQs
http://earthquake.usgs.gov/eqcenter/index.php

US Naval Observatory Data Service
http://aa.usno.navy.mil/data/

Volcano Live
http://www.volcanolive.com/volcanolive.html

Science Daily (Health & Medicine/Mind & Brain/Living Well)
http://www.sciencedaily.com/


What would you consider Radiant Zone news?

For example uplifting stories where people are helping each other lets us know that there is hope and we are not alone. Humor is good too and that which focuses on our inner spirit is also essential.

Tap into the following Radiant Zone News:


Image changes every 60 seconds http://brainpaint.com/globalbrain.html

EGGS - Global Consciousness Project
http://noosphere.princeton.edu/bskto...tobserver.html

Dream Meanings and Dream Interpretation
http://www.freakydreams.com/

Sacred Road-Mayan
http://www.sacredroad.org/

Eclectic Energies- Chakras
http://www.eclecticenergies.com/chakras/

Please feel free to add your links.

We would appreciate it if you would adjust your posts accordingly and keep the focus on building a Radiant Zone here at Avalon.

Mahalo Nui Loa,

Carol

Excellant I agree, there are so many places speaking the problems but this place shines like a lighthouse in the fog becasue it centers on the solution.

I want to focus my energy on the solutions. Its the one big difference in all the other places ive seen and why i love this form and am thrilled to be a part of it

[bakseat]

hii all,
i find mind blowing info from all soughts &colors
for long time ikept meeting people worried over current globel setuations
most were even more worried of the fact others dont anderstand them&cast them as if they are loosing theyr minds....{extending the mind is more likely}

thanx to avalon theres finally aplace for me to give direction to all souls seeking fowrder.
still learning how to comunicate on diffrent subjects & in general on the furom.

peace of mind to all
;]

[Mike_Jetson]

Ive suggested it before and I will again. The Camelot and Avalon forums need swapping over so that Camelot is at the top. People are constantly starting generally pointless threads in Avalon general discussion. I can see at least 5 that need moving right now. I think changing the order if its easy may help

[pineal-pilot-in merkabah]

i agree avalon needs to get more honed to survival and spiritual empowerment to help in the survival process.

[Heretic]

I think this brings up an important issue concerning human nature and message boards. I have been using/running message boards for well over 10 years now and there are a couple of axioms that are inherent in each of them.

The first axiom is that people will talk, period. No matter how hard you try to prevent people from chatting about mundane things unrelated to your preferred topics, people will still chat. Although it is certain that you will be able to maintain and even gain advantage on the mentality of a forum concerning what and where to post, there will still be new people coming in who will make the mistake and start a new chain reaction of improper posting.

Then there are your saboteurs who come to do this on purpose just for the giggles they get from it. My point here is that despite your wishes, people are going to chat about the issues regardless.

The closing of the Camelot forums channeled all the chatting to the general discussion forum of Avalon. For weeks people have been coming to this forum to do their chatting on general topics that have little to do with the purpose of its creation, because there was nowhere else to go for it, and the people want to exchange ideas with each other no matter what.

The people here will not be able to go elsewhere and find the camaraderie they have built here. This makes me wonder if Avalon should have been shut down first instead of Camelot. I honestly believe you may have to shut down Avalon just to get the people to move over to Camelot to have these discussions "there" by habit. But I digress.

When ever you have a community you will have people in unrelated chit chat and gossip so as to identify with each other. IMHO you must create a place for this or it will infect the places you hold even more sacred.

The second axiom is that there will always be conflict to a certain degree. The last couple of days have been very active concerning the conflicts and I have seen you moderators and C. Falcon doing a lot of work stomping it out. I have also seen it effect you guys and I thought I saw you guys get a little frazzled which is of course expected when you have to deal with negativity so much.

Despite the mentality of love, peace, and joy here there remains the fact that not everyone here is on the same level of enlightenment. Therefore there will be discord because even the smallest gap between mindsets will allow for the damaging effects of misinterpretations across the paradigms people speak from here.

You can see it even in threads that are based on the same love, peace, and joy, because these three things have very different manifestations in the multiplex of paradigms found in the evolution of the spirit which is now quickening even here on these forums.

The moderators and administrators will always be in a constant war against improper posting and resolving conflict. IMHO this is true anywhere and it isn’t because of a lack of proper infrastructure but because of the very nature of people. Even enlightened people.

Now don’t get me wrong, I am not preaching that it should be one way or the other. I am no advocate for keeping things going as they are. I am not trying to tell you what you should or shouldn’t do. All I am saying is to take into consideration human nature and the propensity to come together over mundane or unrelated issues, as a catalyst for the type of forums I believe you want here at Avalon/Camelot in the first place, and to make a place for this to happen, because it will happen anyway.

peace

[Mike_Jetson]

I agree with almost all of the above and I still believe having Camelot the primary forum would help even though the talk would be more varied and therefore more risk of conflict and disagreement. I havnt studied the categories very much and do find myself going all over the place to see whats new.

I think as well as considering making Camelot a more obvious place for general discussion by either moving it to top of page or some other method, i think mods will just have to carry on and move more threads, dont hesitate, if you think it doesnt belong then go for it move it. If someone gets the hump, tough, its not their house.

Ive posted in a few threads that it shouldnt be where it is but thats at the risk of annoying the poster too

[greybeard]

I am in agreement with what has been said on this thread and thanks for the links.
In my humble opinion there is a lot of ego on the forum and thats ok too.
People have been researching their own pet beliefs for a long time so there is the desire to share their opinions and they have a right to do this.

However a magnifying glass will only burn paper when it is focused.

There are burning questions that people have regarding setting up of Radient Zones need the answers to. Practical clear answers.

Many here myself included would like to know if there are ways to fund setting up these.

Are there really safe places on this Earth or at least safer places?

The ideal situation would be to have forum totlally dedicated to the basics.

Bill and Kerry probably had that intention but unfortunately human nature has done what human nature does and we cant see the wood for the trees now.

A new sub section might be the answer.

The Dollar may or may not collapse. UFOs might arrive but at the end of the day that is really a seperate subject.

Practical solutions are required to the set up and running of the Radient Zones.
Some have been given but now you cant find them because most of the forum is in whatever drama is happening in the world.
Well that is crisis managment.
We need positive solutions to setting up the zones.
There is a place for the other stuff but it should be seperate.

With love Chris

[Kelle Baley]

I am for one being told to be still inside and practice gathering information that applies to the situation in a state of Being that is absolute as Peace.

this is an inner technology that we all just need to remember and practice individually. The high fifth dimensional link is there and many have gathered together. By doing this small important thing, you are going to KNOW what to do as it rises within you as all groups will communicate down from the fifth to this third dimension. THis inner technology is key because as we get it to live it , we will then remember in the moment not only what to share but even more powerful is that we will realize what to do and how to act and then report this to others. It will reach all those in your wake wave the same way (from the spirit in body) and then they may actually see the confirmation on this forum as an example. Otherwise, we all go round and round sharing less than target appropriate and discover that we only needed the inner Gnosis or inner knowledge that learning by experience without comittment to actions is all along the key to gathering as a prepared individual. It is yet missing. tonight i will explain this technology of our body and if you will help me start a wave of sharing it to get feedback direct from experiencers. we must act now from within more than make plans outside the body. inner armor is the first thing you do, then pick up a sword or get in your boat.

peace

[Shechaiyah]

That's right. We need to think about how to take care of ourselves now.

We have new information; and I placed it in my Sky Album.

[greybeard]

A lot of good links here
keep the thread alive
Chris

[NewParadigmGuy]

Originally Posted by Carol

In looking over the thread titles it crossed my mind that Avalon needs to be a place where folks can come and do their ground crew networking and work.

Since the whole "ground crew" concept (or at least the name) originated in the Handbooks for the New Paradigm, I think we need a sub-forum where these books, and the plan given within them, can be discussed. We have a couple of threads about the books right now but they have been lost in the mass of other threads and some have not even found these threads yet.

There are a few dedicated posters who are actively discussing these books and we would like to start some new threads related to them. Could we have our own sub-forum as a home for these threads?

[Carol]

Originally Posted by NewParadigmGuy

Since the whole "ground crew" concept (or at least the name) originated in the Handbooks for the New Paradigm, I think we need a sub-forum where these books, and the plan given within them, can be discussed. We have a couple of threads about the books right now but they have been lost in the mass of other threads and some have not even found these threads yet.

There are a few dedicated posters who are actively discussing these books and we would like to start some new threads related to them. Could we have our own sub-forum as a home for these threads?

Thank you for your suggestion. Some of that is going on now behind the scenes and will be part of the new sub-forums.

[whitecrow]

Originally Posted by Heretic

The first axiom is that people will talk, period....

True. These communities are just that...communities. We are not unlike flocks of birds...chatting is part of our nature. I applaud the occasional reminders to keep focused, and I also second the mods moving threads around to more appropriate locations (I find I agree with them MOST of the time). And yet, it is never possible to fully control people nor is that a worthwhile goal. I think the mods are doing a heck of a job.

[Kelle Baley]

Practical solutions are required to the set up and running of the Radient Zones.
Chris and everyone on this thread:

I agree that we should accept the ambiguity and chatter as part of the process that gets hammered out when people begin something worthwhile like these two projects. I think that this is a hint that we are building something very real here that will have lasting effects. This IS normal for a being going from a third dimensional reality into a fifth dimensional reality as we all are by choice.

Some will never feeling like coming out to even find such a forum without the critical observation from the outside. The idea that it is approachable has its appeal to the masses overcome by fear that they aren't even aware of yet.

Waking and talking about it is important and it is a messy thing. when critical mass is reached for this forum overall, people will begin authentically sharing in a way that does not parade around the split in spirit that may lurk within many of us. Instead, the listening will truly begin. The audience ready to listen is absolute for setting the stage of what is needed to now hear. The time is coming soon anyway for this need. Hopefully this will not end up needing collective tragedy to find that critical in flux of listeners. When listening is really UP, the pouring out of vital information becomes radically available and is usually quite organized all on its own. This forum establishes the critical need here.

The WAY that we choose to be unified right now is understandably scattered because the listening still needs to be about the center of this entire big picture situation, which we the collective are actually deciding on What events we will allow ourselves to experience. Currently, there are too many crossing agendas, time lines (all separation issues), and general shift in roles within society at large that would allow the listening to be a flowing, breathing congruent thing for us to then engage.

Now is the moment of 'HOW'. This is the theme. What is happening is that many like myself have done something very different recently that shows me the tipping of this scale into the 'WHAT' item of importance; we are gathering in person with people that are not at all the same in spiritual base yet have the same way of listening for HOW to then experience the HOW of our now. this is why there are only "rumors" of war. IT cannot happen until we decide!

The arcturians said "the power will be handed down to the people, not those running the governments". Did you know this? The beam of ultraviolet light is what is penetrating all the empty places of our physical forms (ie; the quantum field of our resonance). Those people that could feel this and cannot are getting very angry because they can see others change and cannot themselves yet reach this point of receive until they relax, surrender to their inner Being and THEN.....they will listen and the talking will be supernal on target for this forums insertion.


As the unfolding begins, the experience that comes first authentically has deep contrast. Read this guy's entry this morning as see what I mean:
By N.A.S.A LIES entry #34
http://www.projectavalon.net/forum/s...5105#post45105

(please note that i intend to invite him to engage further soon)

What I appreciate is THAT this person is speaking genuinely. It is obvious that he is coming from not his light but instead is exploring his anti-light. If you study the rooting of seeds this makes sense then. WE are all of us learning to trust our hidden power to choose again. In the bodies of our light, we have pockets that have anti light or no light that we have observed has been grossly misused by drawing from other light sources to then survive until we know what and whom we are. Learning again to trust is personal at first.

Anyway, the absence of his experience in this world seems to be the point of what he is attempting to cope with and he is demanding we provide a better way of sharing. In his view, I see that he may have actually lost hope in his experience for solutions (sovereignty lost) and wants explicit answers outside himself; in such, he cites that speaking about spiritual internal searches to be very unhelpful. He likely has hit saturation point for gathering without having the inner technology for discernment. It took me months and I ingest rapidly.

What could we tell him that (assuming he is genuinely in pain, emotionally overturned) would disarm his position? THIS my friends is what we first as ground crew members are here to do. I might add here that the paradigm handbook and a list of reading resources is wonderful for reaffirmations and references that offer 'how to' modality in the now. But please lets not funnel away our potential here to discuss the present state of our individual realities we are experiencing and witnessing that needs listen focus. Getting from 'How' to 'What' is of vital potency and is brewing collectively. Listen for 'how' we can engage with contrast and that will show us our own.

Inviting those in conflict or those just entertaining themselves by actually engaging to unfold what is real to this person instead of slapping them on the hand or abandoning assistance. If we do assist, the focus will create viable listening and turn the way of being present into a living experience for all without bias. I still have something to learn and further contribute to these challengers.

THIS is perhaps what is being worked into our world equation that needs engagement. meeting with opposites to investigate what others have to contribute to each of us is key to an event that is positive worldwide in lieu of pressure, tension, burst...negative event.

Collectively, the dark anti role players are holding court and we are being asked to be the jury on the stand to not judge but put also ourselves up on the witness stand to profess and investigate what is happening. It is our story now to unfold and what to do about it is going to be up to our collective role here, not the dark brothers. They will try and it will not work on all.

The tipping of the critical mass to then decide on How we will allow ourselves to experience anything collectively is being studied. IT CANNOT HAPPEN UNTIL WE ALLOW FOR IT. EVENTS WILL BEGIN TO GET FORCED OR SEEMINGLY START UP LIKE A LARGE FUNNEL CLOUD AND THEN will just loose its spin until the people have critically decided on the event. This is fact for I am holding some of this power with all of you.
The only way to course it otherwise is to force people's belief systems to focus en mass that the sky is allegedly falling or aliens are allegedly invading, etc, etc.
Was this important for you? does what i pose here have validity in your view? This is another level of listening and I am here with you to attend.

[china2012]

Thanks for one more great thread! and much appreciate the offers.

In my humble opinion:

1. Quality is most relevant : the same attracts the same.

2. The True seeker often has personal discernment and want to focus on consciousness and awareness development. True seekers, there have been many so as the plain denials. Organization will help attract the same.

3. It is desirable to have a sub forum for the Crew with a mission- spreading the light and gainning insights.

4. Privacy is another concern to all sensitive minds. As a open forum, it is not easy to inform what would have been freely to say. The True Seeker do not necessarily intent to be seen rather than to seek.

5. The Message radiates from the Handbooks has nothing to do with trifles. It is a vital piece of missing mosaic for each individual life. It deserves more attention more devotion and more aspiration as a lifeline.

6. I deeply respect whoever running and devoting their time and effort to this forum, their presence are the morning stars striding in the sky.

---footnote---
What one announces a Beginning is often synonymous with an End
Each moment makes an End as well as a Beginning

[Kelle Baley]

Originally Posted by china2012

Thanks for one more great thread! and much appreciate the offers.

In my humble opinion:

1. Quality is most relevant : the same attracts the same.

2. The True seeker often has personal discernment and want to focus on consciousness and awareness development. True seekers, there have been many so as the plain denials. Organization will help attract the same.

3. It is desirable to have a sub forum for the Crew with a mission- spreading the light and gaining insights.

4. Privacy is another concern to all sensitive minds. As a open forum, it is not easy to inform what would have been freely to say. The True Seeker do not necessarily intent to be seen rather than to seek.

5. The Message radiates from the Handbooks has nothing to do with trifles. It is a vital piece of missing mosaic for each individual life. It deserves more attention more devotion and more aspiration as a lifeline.

6. I deeply respect whoever running and devoting their time and effort to this forum, their presence are the morning stars striding in the sky.

All your points here China are perfect as a focal point, which should interest all seekers. A 'lifeline' for our unification is forming as we speak. It thankfully is happening in the invisible realms first. I am employed as it were and hope to join you in this sub catagory to put words thoughts and intentions to deed.

This will be the deservedly key and lock for opening the door of opportunity. Now, if we could only become proficient at the skill of not participating with those alignments of malevolence and remember to filter funnel this as an alert to walk away without judgment -we would rise more steadily.

i am interested in beginning a group mind that is holding up our integrity so that accountability can no longer be reversed upon us and projected back holding us as wrong doers. Anyone see this issue in our collective and personal Will to be of our innermost?

[MacGyverCanada]

Originally Posted by Heretic

The closing of the Camelot forums channeled all the chatting to the general discussion forum of Avalon. For weeks people have been coming to this forum to do their chatting on general topics that have little to do with the purpose of its creation, because there was nowhere else to go for it, and the people want to exchange ideas with each other no matter what.

The people here will not be able to go elsewhere and find the camaraderie they have built here. This makes me wonder if Avalon should have been shut down first instead of Camelot. I honestly believe you may have to shut down Avalon just to get the people to move over to Camelot to have these discussions "there" by habit. But I digress.

peace

Maybe a chunk of the forum could be renamed "Avalon Community", and the sub-categories could be organized differently to focus the chat content; a Town Hall for political/government debate, for example. We could have a Temple, a Laboratory, a Newspaper ("The Avalon Gazette" or something equally as cheezy) etc. And there could be a Cafe where people just chat about whatever they feel like.