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Old 10-09-2008, 03:06 AM   #1
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Greeting's to all,
It has been over 40 years, since the late Jane Roberts channeled, what would come to be called the "Seth Material." It has inspired more people too- what is now called The New Age, than any other voice!
I recommend you start with "Seth Speaks." giovonni


For real Universal enlightenment go to

seth material* www.spiritual-endeavors.org/seth/index.html

main page * www.spiritual-endeavors.org/

Have you been introduced to Him? What do you think?

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Old 10-09-2008, 07:47 AM   #2
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Hi

In fact the new age movement begins with Pierre Teilhard de Chardin, a Jesuit Priest.

more facts in This video about the New Age Agenda

If you are asking about why a Jesuit priest begins this movement it's because the Jesuits are at the Top of the Luciferic pyramyd, they are the occultists of the vatican, and the vatican are the core of the Babylonian religion going on Now and all the secret societies submits to them. Remember that at the top of all religions, including wichtcraft, masonry and the new age movement are luciferic persons (who are obiously spirituali iliterated).

More about the UN in all of this.

The links are about a groups of lectures of an university profesor who are in some christian religion, don't bother the Facts showed there are Amazing, all cientific investigation, quotes and first hand testimonies.

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Old 10-09-2008, 04:47 PM   #3
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The new age has yet to begin.

As far as this pseudo-spiritual movement, Seth was one of the first yes. The vatican is involved, of course, you can research the jesuits and all if you're interested in Christian religious infighting and their deep fear of the resurrection of "Paganism".
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SETH: Did The New Age Begin With Him?

No, there were others who came before the Seth material. There's always been those who've tried passing on Truth/Love/Light throughout history to those who would listen... The Seth Material is the first in channeling as far as I know though that became well known throughout the metaphysical community. Ra - The Law of One material was next in line...

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The New Age Movement has two origins.The spiritual origin is Lucifer/Satan.But the modern-day movement started with occultist Helena Pretovna Blavatsky in the 19th century.Hitler admired her,so you know.But for those that adhere to cosmic spirituality based on channeled data,that is not a problem.They believe in moral relativism and reincarnation.So,in their view Hitler,Stalin,Pol Pot,et al, were not bad per se,and even if there are some new agers that would concede to evil being real,that those souls would come back as ants or rocks to pay off their Karmic debt.Silly yes,but once you go down the "life is illusion--we are all gods" road,anything goes.Even belief in Jesus is altright as long as it is not the Lord Jesus Christ of Nazareth-Saviour of humanity.New Agers are awaiting the Mark of the Beast,but call it a Luciferic Initiation.Many have taken it already.Look at Wilcock and how he reverses Scripture to make the Antichrist to be Jesus.Well,that is "another Jesus" and "another gospel".Funny how all the occultists use Gematria to redefine Scripture.Judaism[Talmud] and the Kabbalah are highly regarded by the Illuminait as well as New Agers and occultists.The lower level dupes that preach alll this positive thought and love have not read their own writings,or know and are deceived.Read "Inside the New Age Nightmare" by the late ex-new ager Randall N.Baer.He bought into it big time with psychic chambers and all the mystical midas touch synchronicities for years ubtil hit by demoinic forces and came to the truth.
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Teilhard de Chardin did not inaugurate the new age movement.

The term "new age" is almost always used in the perjorative because just as the power elite have poisoned the chalice of every prior spiritual teaching, they are doing it again in the "new age" by plaigerising and distorting the teachings of the true brotherhood of spiritual adepts who have been with humanity for ages.

The power elite have ripped off their recent teachings and recycled them through their own agents of influence in the new age movement. These smooth talking "space brother saviours in their UFOs" (and their messengers, some of whom are sincerely decieved) have ingratiated themselves into the role of humanity's spiritual teachers. The wisdom teaching of the ages have been given a subtle tweak and sometimes an extreme makeover so that it conveniently dovetails with the globalist agenda of the false hierarchy.... and of course, the fantastic expectations of external salvation for souls desperate to escape the personal and planetary vice.

The false teachers are attempting to derail the new age and the new consciousness which it promises, by smothering the relatively few sincere voices on the net. There is a complete avalanche of nonsense passing for "heavenly manna" in the new age because the elite are not about to abandon their manipulation of the spiritual / religious tendencies of an infant humanity. It has always paid handsome dividends for them so they are not about to change tac now. They're right in the thick of the new dispensation trying to make sure that every one of our dreams is answered by an empty promise that vaguely resembles reality but is nothing more than the same old political and religious scams they've always pulled. They just package it differently each time but it is easily recognisable for what it is.

These self styled decievers of humanity virtually never appear unmasked. They ALWAYS feign sympathy with the genuine aspirations of humanity and kinship with our true teachers so that, like fly paper, thay can kill by attraction rather than by an unmasked opposition to our highest aspirations.

There's no problem with the new age that is upon us and i personally wouldn't throw the baby out with the bathwater by dismissing it wholesale. The vast majority of it will deliver those two truths divided by one lie and will thereby re-inforce some of life's verities. But for anyone wishing to go beyond that plateau or culdesac, a serious dose of discernment can find those gems that can raise us into true service and self- transcendence.

God within bless you.

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Teilhard de Chardin did not inaugurate the new age movement.

The term "new age" is almost always used in the perjorative because just as the power elite have poisoned the chalice of every prior spiritual teaching, they are doing it again in the "new age" by plaigerising and distorting the teachings of the true brotherhood of spiritual adepts who have been with humanity for ages.

The power elite have ripped off their recent teachings and recycled them through their own agents of influence in the new age movement. These smooth talking "space brother saviours in their UFOs" (and their messengers, some of whom are sincerely decieved) have ingratiated themselves into the role of humanity's spiritual teachers. The wisdom teaching of the ages has been given a subtle tweak and sometimes an extreme makeover so that it conveniently dovetails with the globalist agenda of the false hierarchy.... and of course, the fantastic expectations of external salvation for souls desperate to escape the personal and planetary vice.

The false teachers are attempting to derail the new age and the new consciousness which it promises, by smothering the relatively few sincere voices on the net. There is a complete avalanche of nonsense passing for "heavenly manna" in the new age because the elite are not about to abandon their manipulation of the spiritual / religious tendencies of an infant humanity. It has always paid handsome dividends for them so they are not about to change tac now. They're right in the thick of the new dispensation trying to make sure that every one of our dreams is answered by an empty promise that vaguely resembles reality but is nothing more than the same old political and religious scams they've always pulled. They just package it differently each time but it is easily recognisable for what it is.

These self styled decievers of humanity virtually never appear unmasked. They ALWAYS feign sympathy with the genuine aspirations of humanity and kinship with our true teachers so that, like fly paper, thay can kill by attraction rather than by an unmasked opposition to our highest aspirations.

There's no problem with the new age that is upon us and i personally wouldn't throw the baby out with the bathwater by dismissing it wholesale. The vast majority of it will deliver those two truths divided by one lie and will thereby re-inforce some of life's verities. But for anyone wishing to go beyond that plateau or culdesac, a serious dose of discernment can find those gems that can raise us into true service and self- transcendence.Ant truly honest person investigates their beliefs before being dogmatic and preach to others with authority.You are free to worship yourself or some collective soul/consciousness,but at least understand the origins of your worldview.

God within bless you.
The label doesn't matter.The worldview is what matters.And the New Age Movement is nothing new except that it allows all forms of pseudo-spiritual beliefs.And a networking of like-minded people.Clearly,the writer of the above quote hasn't studied history.A good start is "Hidden Dangers of the Rainbow" by Constance Cumby and "Mystery Mark of the New Age" by Texe Marrs.You can disregard their conclusions,but check the footnotes and read the original sources of the leaders that promote the exact same philosophies you are espousing.You'll find that the paradigm shift you are seeking by 2012 will be a nightmare.

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Teilhard de Chardin did not inaugurate the new age movement.

The term "new age" is almost always used in the perjorative because just as the power elite have poisoned the chalice of every prior spiritual teaching, they are doing it again in the "new age" by plaigerising and distorting the teachings of the true brotherhood of spiritual adepts who have been with humanity for ages.

The power elite have ripped off their recent teachings and recycled them through their own agents of influence in the new age movement. These smooth talking "space brother saviours in their UFOs" (and their messengers, some of whom are sincerely decieved) have ingratiated themselves into the role of humanity's spiritual teachers. The wisdom teaching of the ages has been given a subtle tweak and sometimes an extreme makeover so that it conveniently dovetails with the globalist agenda of the false hierarchy.... and of course, the fantastic expectations of external salvation for souls desperate to escape the personal and planetary vice.

The false teachers are attempting to derail the new age and the new consciousness which it promises, by smothering the relatively few sincere voices on the net. There is a complete avalanche of nonsense passing for "heavenly manna" in the new age because the elite are not about to abandon their manipulation of the spiritual / religious tendencies of an infant humanity. It has always paid handsome dividends for them so they are not about to change tac now. They're right in the thick of the new dispensation trying to make sure that every one of our dreams is answered by an empty promise that vaguely resembles reality but is nothing more than the same old political and religious scams they've always pulled. They just package it differently each time but it is easily recognisable for what it is.

These self styled decievers of humanity virtually never appear unmasked. They ALWAYS feign sympathy with the genuine aspirations of humanity and kinship with our true teachers so that, like fly paper, thay can kill by attraction rather than by an unmasked opposition to our highest aspirations.

There's no problem with the new age that is upon us and i personally wouldn't throw the baby out with the bathwater by dismissing it wholesale. The vast majority of it will deliver those two truths divided by one lie and will thereby re-inforce some of life's verities. But for anyone wishing to go beyond that plateau or culdesac, a serious dose of discernment can find those gems that can raise us into true service and self- transcendence.

God within bless you.
The label doesn't matter.The worldview is what matters.And the New Age Movement is nothing new except that it allows all forms of pseudo-spiritual beliefs.And a networking of like-minded people.Clearly,the writer of the above quote hasn't studied history.A good start is "Hidden Dangers of the Rainbow" by Constance Cumby and "Mystery Mark of the New Age" by Texe Marrs.You can disregard their conclusions,but check the footnotes and read the original sources of the leaders that promote the exact same philosophies you are espousing.You'll find that the paradigm shift you are seeking by 2012 will be a nightmare.Any honest person would research theor beliefs before speaking with authority.Know the origins before claiming to understand and expound on a subjest.
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Teilhard de Chardin did not inaugurate the new age movement.

The term "new age" is almost always used in the perjorative because just as the power elite have poisoned the chalice of every prior spiritual teaching, they are doing it again in the "new age" by plaigerising and distorting the teachings of the true brotherhood of spiritual adepts who have been with humanity for ages.

The power elite have ripped off their recent teachings and recycled them through their own agents of influence in the new age movement. These smooth talking "space brother saviours in their UFOs" (and their messengers, some of whom are sincerely decieved) have ingratiated themselves into the role of humanity's spiritual teachers. The wisdom teaching of the ages has been given a subtle tweak and sometimes an extreme makeover so that it conveniently dovetails with the globalist agenda of the false hierarchy.... and of course, the fantastic expectations of external salvation for souls desperate to escape the personal and planetary vice.

The false teachers are attempting to derail the new age and the new consciousness which it promises, by smothering the relatively few sincere voices on the net. There is a complete avalanche of nonsense passing for "heavenly manna" in the new age because the elite are not about to abandon their manipulation of the spiritual / religious tendencies of an infant humanity. It has always paid handsome dividends for them so they are not about to change tac now. They're right in the thick of the new dispensation trying to make sure that every one of our dreams is answered by an empty promise that vaguely resembles reality but is nothing more than the same old political and religious scams they've always pulled. They just package it differently each time but it is easily recognisable for what it is.

These self styled decievers of humanity virtually never appear unmasked. They ALWAYS feign sympathy with the genuine aspirations of humanity and kinship with our true teachers so that, like fly paper, thay can kill by attraction rather than by an unmasked opposition to our highest aspirations.

There's no problem with the new age that is upon us and i personally wouldn't throw the baby out with the bathwater by dismissing it wholesale. The vast majority of it will deliver those two truths divided by one lie and will thereby re-inforce some of life's verities. But for anyone wishing to go beyond that plateau or culdesac, a serious dose of discernment can find those gems that can raise us into true service and self- transcendence.

God within bless you.
The label doesn't matter.The worldview is what matters.And the New Age Movement is nothing new except that it allows all forms of pseudo-spiritual beliefs.And a networking of like-minded people.Clearly,the writer of the above quote hasn't studied history.A good start is "Hidden Dangers of the Rainbow" by Constance Cumby and "Mystery Mark of the New Age" by Texe Marrs.You can disregard their conclusions,but check the footnotes and read the original sources of the leaders that promote the exact same philosophies you are espousing.You'll find that the paradigm shift you are seeking by 2012 will be a nightmare.Any honest person would research theor beliefs before speaking with authority.Know the origins before claiming to understand and expound on a subjest.Theosophy is the origin and that was brought forth by Blavatsky.And the New Age Movement is what the questioner was asking about,not your take on the subject.
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Teilhard de Chardin did not inaugurate the new age movement.

The term "new age" is almost always used in the perjorative because just as the power elite have poisoned the chalice of every prior spiritual teaching, they are doing it again in the "new age" by plaigerising and distorting the teachings of the true brotherhood of spiritual adepts who have been with humanity for ages.

The power elite have ripped off their recent teachings and recycled them through their own agents of influence in the new age movement. These smooth talking "space brother saviours in their UFOs" (and their messengers, some of whom are sincerely decieved) have ingratiated themselves into the role of humanity's spiritual teachers. The wisdom teaching of the ages has been given a subtle tweak and sometimes an extreme makeover so that it conveniently dovetails with the globalist agenda of the false hierarchy.... and of course, the fantastic expectations of external salvation for souls desperate to escape the personal and planetary vice.

The false teachers are attempting to derail the new age and the new consciousness which it promises, by smothering the relatively few sincere voices on the net. There is a complete avalanche of nonsense passing for "heavenly manna" in the new age because the elite are not about to abandon their manipulation of the spiritual / religious tendencies of an infant humanity. It has always paid handsome dividends for them so they are not about to change tac now. They're right in the thick of the new dispensation trying to make sure that every one of our dreams is answered by an empty promise that vaguely resembles reality but is nothing more than the same old political and religious scams they've always pulled. They just package it differently each time but it is easily recognisable for what it is.

These self styled decievers of humanity virtually never appear unmasked. They ALWAYS feign sympathy with the genuine aspirations of humanity and kinship with our true teachers so that, like fly paper, thay can kill by attraction rather than by an unmasked opposition to our highest aspirations.

There's no problem with the new age that is upon us and i personally wouldn't throw the baby out with the bathwater by dismissing it wholesale. The vast majority of it will deliver those two truths divided by one lie and will thereby re-inforce some of life's verities. But for anyone wishing to go beyond that plateau or culdesac, a serious dose of discernment can find those gems that can raise us into true service and self- transcendence.

God within bless you.
The label doesn't matter.The worldview is what matters.And the New Age Movement is nothing new except that it allows all forms of pseudo-spiritual beliefs.And a networking of like-minded people.Clearly,the writer of the above quote hasn't studied history.A good start is "Hidden Dangers of the Rainbow" by Constance Cumby and "Mystery Mark of the New Age" by Texe Marrs.You can disregard their conclusions,but check the footnotes and read the original sources of the leaders that promote the exact same philosophies you are espousing.You'll find that the paradigm shift you are seeking by 2012 will be a nightmare.Any honest person would research their beliefs before speaking with authority.Know the origins before claiming to understand and expound on a subject.Theosophy is the origin and that was brought forth by Blavatsky.And the New Age Movement is what the questioner was asking about,not your take on the subject.
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Old 10-09-2008, 07:29 PM   #11
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The label doesn't matter.The worldview is what matters.And the New Age Movement is nothing new except that it allows all forms of pseudo-spiritual beliefs.And a networking of like-minded people.Clearly,the writwer of the above quote hasn't studied history.A good start is "Hidden Dangers of the Rainbow" by Constance Cumby and "Mystery Mark of the New Age" by Texe Marrs.You can disregard their conclusions,but check the footnotes and read the original sources of the leaders that promote the exact same philosophies you are espousing.You'll find that the paradigm shift you are seeking by 2012 will be a nightmare.
No-one is exempt from using personal discernment to separate the wheat from the chaff in the 'new age' teachings or anywhere else. The truth that can be found amongst it is mostly a re-presentation of truths that have been revealed before. As you say, it isn't that new. I know what the hidden dangers of the new age movement are and that is what most of my earlier post was written about. If you got my point you'd see that i was saying to beware "the lie hid between two truths" philosophy used by the false hierarchy and their messengers.

But i do reiterate the point that some spiritual teachings given over the last 140 years or so are worth studying because they explain some of the older teachings, of Jesus for example, and go beyond them to add to our understanding of ourselves in relation to the greater cosmos. I've noticed that fundamentalist christians will dismiss everything that doesn't agree with the literalist interpretation of the bible taught to them by the very wolves in sheeps clothing that i talked about in my previous post.

The false teachers are not unique to the new age teachings. As i said, they always have and always will wrap themselves in the cloth and it is them i am wary of. But i don't fear to shoulder my personal responsibility to determine what is true or not. I go to the source material and come to my own conclusions.
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Zira is correct.Doesn't matter what a person's opinion is.The question was the beginings o0f the N.A.M. And that is most definitely with Blavatsky,Besant, and the promoyed through Lucifer Pub.,later named Lucis Trust to throw off Chrsitians.ps Zira,I see the multiple posts from your typo corrections.It's the way the options are set-up for edit and save,submit,quote,quick reply,etc.Kind of convoluted.LOL
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Zira is correct.Doesn't matter what a person's opinion is.The question was the beginings of the N.A.M. And that is most definitely with Blavatsky,Besant, and the promoyed through Lucifer Pub.,later named Lucis Trust to throw off Chrsitians.ps Zira,I see the multiple posts from your typo corrections.It's the way the options are set-up for edit and save,submit,quote,quick reply,etc.Kind of convoluted.LOL
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Zira is correct.Doesn't matter what a person's opinion is.The question was the beginings of the N.A.M. And that is most definitely with Blavatsky,Besant, and promoted through Lucifer Pub.,later named Lucis Trust to throw off Chrsitians.ps Zira,I see the multiple posts from your typo corrections.It's the way the options are set-up for edit and save,submit,quote,quick reply,etc.Kind of convoluted.LOL
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[QUOTE=Zira;45402] the modern-day movement started with occultist Helena Pretovna Blavatsky in the 19th century.QUOTE]

Look at the post of the UN agenda and you understand that Helena Balvasky was a satanist. There are just quotes of her so don't get angry.

(Remember that in the top of these organizations are allways luciferians)


In fact, all these publications, from Alice A. Bailey, etc are made by an enterprise named first Lucfer pub publishing and then they get a little smart haha and realized that name would go against they intentions so changed it's name a Lucis Trust publishing.

In fact, Dr. Deagle says that the Ascended masters thing and the "contact with entities" are scam from Intradimensional non positive spiritual beings and put an example with RAtta the being chaneled by David Wilcock (I like him but... ) who says that Jehochua are a nerd and ALL the New Age Luciferian Stuff.

Another thing is that seems to be a spiritual awakening in these years that the Jesuit/occultists and all they branches are infiltrating, and that's might be the reason of the N.A.M. who have a lot of luciferic teachings who overwhelm the good ones.

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Ashtav when are you gonna stop quoting Dr.Deagle? He is a fraud check this info out: http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread398534/pg1
If you wanna stay in your fantasy land and believe Mr.Deagle that is fine. He's not even a doctor no more his license got revoked

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the modern-day movement started with occultist Helena Pretovna Blavatsky in the 19th century.QUOTE]

Look at the post of the UN agenda and you understand that Helena Balvasky was a high degree satanist. There are just quotes of her so don't get angry.

(Remember that in the top of these organizations are allways luciferians)


In fact, all these publications, from Alice A. Bailey, etc are made by an enterprise named first Lucfer pub publishing and then they get a little smart haha and realized that name would go against they intentions so changed it's name a Lucis Trust publishing.

In fact, Dr. Deagle says that the Ascended masters thing and the "contact with entities" are scam from Intradimensional non positive spiritual beings and put an example with RAtta the being chaneled by David Wilcock (I like him but... ) who says that Jehochua are a nerd and ALL the New Age Luciferian Stuff.

Another thing is that seems to be a spiritual awakening in these years that the Jesuit/occultists and all they branches are infiltrating, and that's might be the reason of the N.A.M. who have a lot of luciferic teachings who overwhelm the good ones.

Cheers!
Tiresome...I want to believe you mean well...

For you to say something like that about HP Blavatsky shows you haven't a clue about her. She had no intention of starting this new age movement. Why don't you study the people before labeling them with such titles as "High Degree Satanist"? Why don't you try that sometime, instead of clinging to the words of the likes of Eric Phelps who has blatantly disregarded historical facts in favor of his fundamentalist "Christian" hypocrisy? I wonder if he's doing well with his Israel based diamond business?

The new inquisition is beginning to make itself more and more clear...itching for another "heathen genocide"?

"But there exists...another class of adepts belonging to a brotherhood also and mightier than any other they have to be ranked with the adepts of the Black Art. These are our Roman Catholic "Fathers" and clergy...A hundred times more learned in secret symbology and the old religion than our Orientalists will ever be...There are more profoundly learned Kabalists in Rome and throughout Europe and America than is generally suspected...Thus are the "Brotherhoods" of "Black" adepts more powerful and dangerous...than any host of Eastern Occultists." - H. P. Blavatsky
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giovonni, I have no way of knowing if Seth material was the 1st in the "new age" movement, but the books were MY first intro, about 1973 as I remember. I read most of them, liked "The Nature of Personal Reality" the best. This material set me on a journey to so much more... my question is this: does anyone else get the feeling now that Seth is an ET as opposed to a soul being channeled from "the other side" as I first thought? Just a "feeling" I've had lately....
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I believe your first impression is correct. Seth, obviously, is an advanced spiritual soul. No greater than you or me, but evolved enough to know it. Able to exist and function, on different planes of existence. Seth, never portrayed himself to be nothing more or less. Just another spiritual being, who chose or was chosen, too instruct and guide us in the here and now, through the teaching's of Jane Roberts. As you might remember, Jane and her husband Rob, were (according to Seth) close friends and associates in past lives (here on Earth). This was the connection, that allowed Seth to interact through a cooperative channeling process with Jane. Lets say, it was agreed upon by, either prior to this life, or in a subconscious state. I believe, some of the respondee's, have misunderstood this threads topic question? I was more interested in finding, individuals like yourself, who know of- what I speak. I am satisfied, just by your response and inquiry. I hoped and felt those like yourself, would come forth and speak, of the wisdom and enlightenment, you gain from this material. If, it stirred others on? Then maybe, Seth could aid in their awakening; As it has for both of us. I can see, from where you dwell from, you have found your radiant zone!
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"But there exists...another class of adepts belonging to a brotherhood also and mightier than any other they have to be ranked with the adepts of the Black Art. These are our Roman Catholic "Fathers" and clergy...A hundred times more learned in secret symbology and the old religion than our Orientalists will ever be...There are more profoundly learned Kabalists in Rome and throughout Europe and America than is generally suspected...Thus are the "Brotherhoods" of "Black" adepts more powerful and dangerous...than any host of Eastern Occultists." - H. P. Blavatsky
I agree.

In fact the Catholic institution are the mother of these creepy institutions.

At the top level, the Witches, masons, knights of malta, catholics, etc. are all Luciferians and Albert Pike stands in the Original Morals and Dogma, the lower levels are deceived. The jesuits allways put layer behind layer to the people blame another. The jesuit are the top of the pyramd o secret societies by the way, research it.

mmm Might look at Thiese links 1 2 3 and then say if Madame Blavasky wasn't a satanist. Just Quotes from her. I put these series of lectures because the deep investigation and not for something else.

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Old 10-10-2008, 07:06 AM   #22
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Ashtav when are you gonna stop quoting Dr.Deagle? He is a fraud check this info out: http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread398534/pg1
If you wanna stay in your fantasy land and believe Mr.Deagle that is fine. He's not even a doctor no more his license got revoked

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I will not.

The link... Is the same above top secret that John Lear say it's infiltrated?

Ehh... I don't know but I think he knows the site better.

Dr. Deagle have a lot of enemies beacuse he's a whistleblower my good friend, all of them have.

First listen his show and know him a little.

In fact the other day he clear all the internet missinformation about him, about what he knows, about his revoked license, his severals medical specialties, etc. I don't have doubts he isn't what some lame internet gossip coadjuntor sites says and he's for real.



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Old 10-10-2008, 07:44 AM   #23
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Tiresome...I want to believe you mean well...

For you to say something like that about HP Blavatsky shows you haven't a clue about her. She had no intention of starting this new age movement. Why don't you study the people before labeling them with such titles as "High Degree Satanist"? Why don't you try that sometime, instead of clinging to the words of the likes of Eric Phelps who has blatantly disregarded historical facts in favor of his fundamentalist "Christian" hypocrisy? I wonder if he's doing well with his Israel based diamond business?

The new inquisition is beginning to make itself more and more clear...itching for another "heathen genocide"?

"But there exists...another class of adepts belonging to a brotherhood also and mightier than any other they have to be ranked with the adepts of the Black Art. These are our Roman Catholic "Fathers" and clergy...A hundred times more learned in secret symbology and the old religion than our Orientalists will ever be...There are more profoundly learned Kabalists in Rome and throughout Europe and America than is generally suspected...Thus are the "Brotherhoods" of "Black" adepts more powerful and dangerous...than any host of Eastern Occultists." - H. P. Blavatsky
I quite aggree. Those labelling Helena Blavatsky, who was an ordained Buddhist, a high degree satanist clearly dont know what they are talking about. A re edition of one of her works, the Voice of the silence had a foreward by the Dali Lama. Also, the respected Buddhist scholar Dr Suzuki wrote of that work, "Undoubtedly Madame Blavatsky had in some way been initiated into the deeper side of Mahayana teaching and then gave out what she deemed wise to the Western world..."(Eastern Buddhist, old series, 5:377) He also commented: "Here is the real Mahayana Buddhism." (The Middle Way, August 1965, p. 90.). Evidently they were all condoning the work of this evil Satanist.
In relation to Hitler being an admirer of Blavatsky, there is no evidence of this. Ariosophy, in its various anti sematic forms, was a bastardisation of Theosophy that went on to influence some Nazis. Hitler banned all such occullt movements when he came to power. Oddly, he refuted the racial theories of Lanz Von Liebenfels and his blonde supremacist magazine Ostara (see Ian Kershaw's biography on Hitler, Chapter 2).
As for the Theosophical Society and the Lucis trust being a satanic threat to the world, well, I doubt it. Its members largley consist of elderly women. Peter Washington, a critic of theosophy in his book, madame Blavatskys baboon states of the TS today "Its membership is elderly, its activities respectable, its profile low...Its ambition tamed...the society is now closer to the womens institiute than to the united nations"
There is more danger to humanity I feel, from the fundamentalist Christians like Mr Phelps. There is a lot of paranoia going around this site. Much of it misplaced and misinformed.

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Old 10-10-2008, 08:47 AM   #24
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In fact all the mayor religions are luciferic at the top. mmm

Maybe she was a satanist and after a buddhist? hoho In any case, Did you know that the dalai lama are 33 degree fremason? in this level you get one Original Morals and Dogma and in there you know that freemasonry are united lucifericly with the others cults, follow the links I put in the other posts. hohoho

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Old 10-10-2008, 09:39 AM   #25
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How do you know he is for real? Just because he says So? LOL Dude not to burst your bubble its not disinformation...he tried to spread fear with that phone call saying that we will all be nuked....COME ON I swear if this guy isn't a shill hes got some problems. The facts stand over the fraud if you can't see that the I am done trying to wake up people like you. Perfect example is those people that still believe in that Alex jones Guy . Just Scroogle(better than google) him yourself look up other information on him. The truth shall rise over the fakes disinfo agents

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