A Mayan Calendar question

[Spiralmind]

I keep hearing about December 21, 2012 as the established, "official", end of the Mayan calendar, but Dr. Carl Calleman has maintained October 28, 2011 as the REAL end date for the calendar.

Can someone help to clarify the discrepancy in dates for me?


Thanks

[Lightpotential]

Spiral,

This matter is all to do with the so called 'Correlation problem' i.e. when exactly was 0.0.0.0.0. - the start of the current Mayan World Age - set against the Julian Calendar? Now, the end-date of 2012 Dec 21, is based upon a start date of the current Mayan World Age Cycle (of 13 Baktuns) of 3114 BC Sept 06. This is the generally accepted theory of the day. It is the one that most Mayan Scholars believe to be true. Calleman though is a researcher who, along with quite a number of others over the years, has developed an alternative mapping of the Mayan Long Count onto the modern Western calendar. In a nutshell, that is all there is to it, as such. If you want to see a more extensive list of other alternative theories, see my website page on the Long Count:


Long Count Mayan Calendar


LP

[gibonos]

From my understanding of Callemans work after ocober 28 2011 we still need to
complete another period were each day and night will have 20 days (instead of 360), so roughly october 22 2012.
However I do not think if the theory is right it would end with mayan days equal to 20 our days, so we would need to break down the 20 by another 13, so then
each mayan day and night would be about 1,5 our days.
I would suggest that the time compresion and consciousness expansion would continue until we get a tipping point, which comes around nov 12 2012.

Pardon me if it's to confusing, I'll try to refraze :-)

Gibonos

[gibonos]

Correction 360 divided by 13 is not 20, here is a better version :-)

Right now mayan days and nights are 360 days long.

6 night just started nov 8 2009
7 day starts nov 3 2010 ends oct 28 2011
From this day mayan days and nights will be 360/13 which is around 28 days long

1 oct 29 to nov 26 2011
1 nov 27 to dec 25 2011
2 dec 26 to jan 23 2012
2 jan 24 to feb 21 2012
3 feb 22 to mar 22 2012
3 mar 23 to apr 20 2012
4 apr 21 to may 19 2012
4 may 20 to jun 17 2012
5 jun 18 to jul 16 2012
5 jul 17 to aug 14 2012
6 aug 15 to sep 12 2012
6 sep 13 to oct 11 2012
7 oct 12 to nov 9 2012
From this point 28 days/13 comes up to around 2 days
So this period would end dec 6 2012

From this point 2 days gives us dec 8 2012.

Sorry for the mistake.
Gibonos

[Spiralmind]

Thank you both for taking the time to explain this. It was just a little confusing to me, but now it is clearer.

[Lionhawk]

Let us not forget the activation of 11:11 which occurred on January 11, 1992. It was also said then that it would be 20 years from that date. That is what I have been going by as far as my compass. I remember saying, shoot, I got to wait another 20 years. But it is a very important gate activation. I probably wouldn't have given it a second thought, but I was fired from a job I had the day before, on Jan. 10th. I went home and said to self that I knew I was fired for a higher reason as the reason was not something I had done something wrong. That day on the 11th, I got up, took a shower, fixed a good breakfast, took my time, decided not to stay in that little apartment, and to get out into the sun in January. As I was about to put my jacket on, I asked myself was there a number I could say to self that would activate me into wholeness? I was also thinking like in computer terms. Then I turned to pick up my jacket, looked at the clock and then it happened. 11:11. The shift. I was trying to equate to something positive or negative but got neither. What I got was neutral but as the shift came through like a subtle front, for a few seconds I felt as though I was part of everything in the physical. Kind of like a meld. But it was on a molecular level. It was the strangest thing. Then after that, the clock syndrome kick in. I would seem to just tune in at the right time, look at the clock and it would say 11:11. It still continues to this day. Not all the time but often enough. After that day I was lost as to what had happened. I had several spiritual experiences and this one lost me on that kind of radar. So I went on, never found any answers till Dec 1992 and that was when I met a walk-in. She knew of the books to point me in the right direction. Author's name is Solara. I don't know if her books are still in publication or not but you can check it out at the following. When you experience something, mind you money is no option when you seek validation. Starborn and 11:11 are excellent reads.

http://www.nvisible.com/