My Conversation with Kerry Aug 26, 09

Karen · 08-27-2009, 09:36 AM

My conversation with Kerry today. I've changed this up a little from my post to the bye bye whistleblowers thread and my reply to some accusations made there.

About 2:30 PDT I was getting on the computer and checking out the new posts for the day when it soon became apparent the forum had gone down – dern it, I had just gotten on. A check on Camelot revealed the same. I skyped Gareth and he said it was probably a denial of service attack. If I understand correctly this is when “they” send so many hits to the site that it shuts down. And there are a lot of other things like sun spots that will take down sites. Gareth said the host would be notified and would fix it probably within the hour. After 2 hours I called Kerry Cassidy to inform her both sites were down.

I've seen a lot of assumptions made about Bill and Kerry, like they are checking in on the forum but not participating, so I took the opportunity to ask if she checks in on the forum at all and she said no, it had been quite a while. Which confirmed what I thought, she only checks in when I call her about an issue. Her profile shows she last logged in two months ago (time of the last issue) and Bill hasn't been on since Dec 08. Now these are my words for the explanation not her exact words – the whirlwind that is Project Camelot has swept both her and Bill up into a incredible flurry of issues and business to attend to, especially now with the Whistleblower Radio Show. There has simply been no time to check in on the forum to see how things are going.

So if you have any questions or comments that you really want Bill and/or Kerry to see put ***BILL or ***Kerry in the subject line of an email and send it to support@projectcamelot.org. You can also contact Bill or Kerry individually at bill@projectcamelot.org or kerry@projectcamelot.org. I'll have to warn you though they get a ton of email and cannot possibly answer it all.

Now I’ve heard moderators say, yes but when they were in Australia, they kept in touch with the moderator team, they weren't too busy then. OK that was then and this is now. I ask all who object to their absence from the forum to imagine how this thing has spiraled in size and scope since Australia so that they simply have no time to participate here. I don’t believe as some accuse that it’s a case of money-grubbing, turn the forum paid and then callously take off. Most people sign up at the $12/year rate. How quickly does that add up?

Then I asked her how then did she know people on their own forum had been trashing them as she reported on a recent radio show - were people reporting that to her? Oh, that was a long time ago she said. So I inquired further, then you haven’t heard of the latest flurry of criticism on the forum about your interview with Greer? No she had no idea what was going on with the forum. But she had indeed heard plenty of criticism and plenty of compliments as well.

I had a short conversation with her about the incident with Burisch over beliefs about vaccines and Dan and Marcia’s subsequent actions. Bill and Kerry do not wish to get caught up in any public discussion of the matter and the misinterpretations that are being told about them. So they remain mum on that topic.

We ended with a short convo about all that they have found out about everything and what they have revealed is just a tiny fraction of how deep and how black it goes, (no details, I didn’t ask and I don’t want to know) and then she signed off to call the hosting company. I think she said black, with emphasis, about 5 times and sounded like they hold some
seriously disturbing information.

I guarantee everyone that 95% of the time when someone makes ASSured ASSumptions about a person’s motives or intent or actions – they are going to be wrong. I see it all the time! Every time one of the freebie subscriptions falls through the cracks and doesn't get processed (maybe 4 times so far) imaginations go nuts about why I decided not to give it to them. My imagination does the same crazy stuff when I don't hear back from people like I was expecting. It is just human nature that most of us imagine the worst. So what I do is ask questions. Make a call. Send an email. Put all those crazy ASSumptions to rest.
Same thing happens with debunking of whistleblowers - people go off on some wild tangents about why the whistleblower is lying or this or that and state it as fact.

Many Blessings to all,
Karen

rhythm · 08-27-2009, 10:06 AM

Thanks again for all

you do here Karen

mich appreciation

to you ...

love and kindness rhythmmm ....

Karen · 08-27-2009, 11:11 AM

You are welcome rhythm!

What I have tried to do since before becoming a moderator is to simply ask questions and find out the truth. Then I post that to the forum.

I saw people asking questions and getting no answers. Making complaints and not feeling heard. Posting and nobody answers or they answer rudely. I've watched forum and discussion email groups for over 10 years and watched people for over 57 years.

The way you stop wild rumors, gossip and suppositions is to merely ask polite questions before spreading it all over the place. Especially in a group like this we are the first to be suspicious - in this world of intrigue, agents, double agents, triple agents. Yes, people do lie oh so cunningly - and that is when you call on your gut and all your life experience.

But darn it we sometimes still get duped. OK, another life lesson. Smarter next time. Drop the negative reaction and look at the gift. Mature one step at a time.

Another way to stop misinformation from making the circuit is to help with a polite correction of erroneous information when you know it. No need to get all huffy and puffy about it. That kind of attitude is rather contagious and indeed, subject to escalation. Drop the reactive vocabulary whenever possible for great results.

I get something now - this is the time of the Shar, the crossing of the galactic plane, the time of increased energies - and the place where if you get ready - you can make the quantum leap into the newest part of creation. I see more clearly what part of the ascension material is truth and what is junk. All the little puzzle pieces are coming together. We are entering a place in our galactic space where there is more asteroid debris, more chance of solar flares, and magnetic pole shifts, maybe even an axial shift. In this time of increased physical danger we can be a stabilizing force by staying calm and centered. By knowing what could be coming we can prepare and be the rock while the heads of some of those around us are spinning a million miles an hour about these misunderstood changes. Then soon enough you have gone through the Shar (or not) and come out the other side. We came for this time. Be JOY. Do not fear.

giovonni · 08-27-2009, 11:23 AM

Thanks Karen for posting this~ and thank you very much for Always~ going beyond the call for all ~ here at Avalon

sunflower · 08-27-2009, 12:28 PM

Ditto Giovanni! Thanks from me also,Karen, for being so level-headed. I value your input on Avalon.

THE eXchanger · 08-27-2009, 12:39 PM

xxx

pineal-pilot-in merkabah · 08-27-2009, 08:11 PM

people who moan about whistle blowers are welcome to 'plug back into the matrix' if they wish. just dont come on the forum and tell people thankyou.. im sure bill and kerry know far more than they can say. im grateful for any information that passes my snout

ty karen for putting it straight.

waitinginthewings · 08-27-2009, 08:38 PM

Blessings & thanks Karen for sharing feedback with us. I have observed that people are sometimes very quick to judge, without having any facts. It is so easy to be an armchair critic. Try walking in the shoes of Bill & Kerry .Those who are so quick to judge & criticize may soon get a different feeling for what they have to endure., their safety & ridicule., exhaustion, airports, hotels, different foods, time changes, & on & on. I ask would any of you on this forum be willing to do the same in order to bring truth to humanity?

Everytime I come on this forum or visit Camelot, I give thanks for Bill & Kerry for their incredible courage, tenacity, patience, & the intense desire to get to the truth & share it with us. Camelot & Avalon would not exist without them. I ask people to not forget that Bill & Kerry are human & can make mistakes, just like the rest of us.

They are but dedicated researchers so how about we step up our vibration & give them the love & respect that they deserve. After all, is that not what this forum is all about. Blessings & love to all.

Malletzky · 08-27-2009, 09:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Karen

...We ended with a short convo about all that they have found out about everything and what they have revealed is just a tiny fraction of how deep and how black it goes, (no details, I didn’t ask and I don’t want to know) and then she signed off to call the hosting company. I think she said black, with emphasis, about 5 times and sounded like they hold some
seriously disturbing information...

Karen

And you know, this is the most disturbing thing at all...I fully respect their decision to witheld information, this is nothing new, so many other do this...I can understand that the fear could play a big part here...but...

...better say nothing, instead of just making insinuations or suggestions of any comming events...

SO...IF ANYBODY HAS TO SAY SOMETHING, PLEASE STEP FORWARD AND SAY WHAT YOU HAVE TO SAY...

...or keep your knowledge for yourself and don't speak...!!!

We all have enough of "I know, but I just can't tell you right now" stories.

PLEASE! We're all here, cause we know something more then the rest of humanity. Share with others, otherwise you lose your credibility !!!

This is not against you Karen...his is just a thought about the current situation...you're the messenger, not the source.

with
malletzky

waitinginthewings · 08-27-2009, 09:23 PM

Malletkzy: Perhaps the timing is not right for them to fully disclose. Maybe they have to choose it carefully & then release. I really don't believe that they are witholding for some crazy selfish reason. More than lightly there are other factors involved that we are not aware of.

Malletzky · 08-27-2009, 09:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by waitinginthewings

Malletkzy: Perhaps the timing is not right for them to fully disclose. Maybe they have to choose it carefully & then release. I really don't believe that they are witholding for some crazy selfish reason. More than lightly there are other factors involved that we are not aware of.

The timing...that's fine with me...but why insinuations ? It only causes feelings of fear, at least the majority will feel fear...Better remain silent...

And the only factor that count is the well being of the whole humanity...!!!

Anything less that this, and there you are, you've missed the agenda...

with

malletzky

Swanny · 08-27-2009, 09:49 PM

If they have info and don't disclose it then they are as bad as tptb

Seashore · 08-27-2009, 10:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Swanny

If they have info and don't disclose it then they are as bad as tptb

Maybe they feel that nothing constructive would come out of revealing more than has already been revealed.

Maybe they think we know enough.

Maybe they worry about doing more harm than good.

Swanny · 08-27-2009, 10:25 PM

Maybe they don't really know?

Karen · 08-27-2009, 10:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Malletzky

The timing...that's fine with me...but why insinuations ? It only causes feelings of fear, at least the majority will feel fear...Better remain silent...

You are right these insinuations can cause a great deal of fear - so why did I include that part? [Soul searching ...] I think it emphasizes why B & K felt it was so important to confront Greer on his - there are only friendly ETs and the ETs are not involved with our government spiel.

We must learn to work through this fear - feel it, don't try to push it away - feel it and go through it. Come out the other side energized to do what you came here to do to transcend these deep black issues that are taking place in our planetary and galactic home. We are at a very pivotal time - you can't make that quantum leap across the Grand Canyon in two short hops. You have to get enough energy behind it to make the leap in one go. Please don't stay stuck in the fear. I don't think ignoring the scary things is going to help propel us out of the danger zone.

Many Blessings,
Karen

Karen · 08-27-2009, 11:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Swanny

If they have info and don't disclose it then they are as bad as tptb

People are killed over this stuff. And worse, they know some people will gladly be taken out to help the cause and so they instead pick off their friends and relatives one by one.

When someone vows to hold onto information confidentially - in order to get enough info to understand the big picture - your word is gold, or no one can ever trust you again.

I think we are moving through a great revealing - but that radio show decades ago - War of the Worlds I think it was - was a test balloon that showed what can happen when too much is revealed too fast. People were going nuts in a panic, committing suicide, etc. Better for it to be a step by step process - give the kids dinosaur/reptile toys and transformer toys - get them used to the idea.

Hiram · 08-27-2009, 11:45 PM

I have continued to support project Camelot throughout the entire evolution of this endeavor. From the get go. I have phenomenal intuition about people, and I KNOW WITH CERTAINTY that Bill and Kerry's intentions are good, regardless of how those intentions are sometimes manifested. I know that any negativity is probably due to the highly charged energy of the material. Therefore I don't engage in the criticisms.

That being said, I have some very strong feelings about those who withhold information. In particular the WAY in which is is withheld. Some parties in the UFO/Whistleblower community are extremely into withholding information for their own gain. They also have serious control issues...letting others know, that they know...but are not going to tell you! This is a control issue. What I have come to know, is that the keys to all of this info are INSIDE OF YOU AND YOU ALONE.

Listen to what is said, ask questions, think, and feel deeply. Know that all belongs to all, all will be shared with all.

This is a terrifying thing...looking into the abyss. It looks back my friends, it looks back at you. Do you turn around and tell those behind you what you see? Or do you know that they will be BETTER EQUIPED TO DEAL WITH THAT ABYSS if you jst tell them to prepare themselves.

We are going to get through this just fine. Godspeed Kerry and Bill. May the wind be at your back, and let us know what will help us. Until then, we surrender to all that is.

Unified Serenity · 08-28-2009, 12:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Karen

People are killed over this stuff. And worse, they know some people will gladly be taken out to help the cause and so they instead pick off their friends and relatives one by one.

Well, it becomes self destructive when someone ignores their friends or leaves big blank areas where they have a responsibility to explain things. I did see the radio show as an attempt at that, but a note here would have helped stop the mud slinging possibly.

Quote:

War of the Worlds I think it was - was a test balloon that showed what can happen when too much is revealed too fast. People were going nuts in a panic, committing suicide, etc. Better for it to be a step by step process - give the kids dinosaur/reptile toys and transformer toys - get them used to the idea.

When was the last time you heard WOW? They did it in a very fearful and sinister way j(as it was written). Of course the people panicked. I guarantee you that if UFO's swooped down and started laser blasting us we would panic too! They wanted that reaction. They had the technology sooner than that I believe. I don't think Roswell was our first exposure, but that's just my opinion. I believe they wanted to keep things under wraps. There will still be a religious backlash or melt down when people have to logically confront the idea that we are no alone in the universe.

B & K could use a very good anonymizer service and post under an alias here or get someone else to and give us the info they have. Now, if it would definitely get someone killed because of the nature of how that particular info would have been found out, then I say keep one's mouth shut. Don't insinuate they know and just can't tell. That is the same as others we have seen and feel are playing us with disinfo.

No, I am not calling B & K disinfo, I'm saying it's irritating. Granted you said it in relating your conversation with K, but she said it to you first. They have also said as much in videos. I can understand not wanting to implicate their guest, so just wait some, then throw out the info at a later date and the ptw won't know who shared it.

Hiram · 08-28-2009, 12:21 AM

Unified Serenity.....Good points. I think those are fair questions you pose.

dagon · 08-28-2009, 04:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pineal-pilot-in merkabah

people who moan about whistle blowers are welcome to 'plug back into the matrix' if they wish. just dont come on the forum and tell people thankyou.. im sure bill and kerry know far more than they can say. im grateful for any information that passes my snout

ty karen for putting it straight.

once one takes the red pill. there is no going back.

well, whatever there sitting on. I hope they decide to tell us before its to late.. LOL!!! sure would be nice if they were to stop in now and again. moral support. and all. were sure going threw a lot. its a lot to digest keeping up with all the conspiracy facts and myths. lots going on indeed.

Swanny · 08-28-2009, 09:29 AM

If you're interviewing people that are risking their lives to give you info then surely you owe it to them to get the truth out to the masses.
You don't put your life and that of your families on the line by reveling secrets and then tell people not to tell anyone else.

Quote:

I'll tell you but you must promise not to tell anyone else.

What happens if B&K have an accident?
If it's as late in the day as this forum would indicate then we need to know everything now, not tomorrow when it's too late.
To hold on to info that can help us is selfish.

Northern Boy · 08-28-2009, 03:14 PM

Quote:

I think we are moving through a great revealing - but that radio show decades ago - War of the Worlds I think it was - was a test balloon that showed what can happen when too much is revealed too fast. People were going nuts in a panic, committing suicide, etc. Better for it to be a step by step process - give the kids dinosaur/reptile toys and transformer toys - get them used to the idea.

War of the worlds was not a test to our reaction to aliens but instead it was an opportunity to use a tool to instill fear of aliens into the Human Being`s. Look at what they were doing aliens coming out and killing us. Come on Karen if they wanted us dead it would have happened long ago why wait till we gain all this technology and then do it . No they would have done it before when all we had were conventional weapons to defend ourselves.

There are no kids here reading so they are not going to pick up on the truth of the matter . And if we were to use your analogy of let them get broken in slowly by giving them dinosaur/reptile toys and transformer toys - get them used to the idea then we are never going to get beyond where we are now because there are new born`s coming into this world every day .

If we continue to hold back information much like the Government and our elite do then we are no better than them . If they were to go down in a plane crash or get hit by a bus then what the info die`s with them. So then I have to ask do they have anything or is it just another ploy .

Moxie · 08-28-2009, 04:26 PM

It's good to know that the ptb's, from the top down, and in this 'lower level', b&k, have our best interests at heart. Seems to me, what Kerry thinks she knows, made her act so wacky w/Greer, I perceived a loss of groundedness... hersterical was showing.

Seems at the get go of an interview, it should be stated "don't tell us anything that you don't want published". But now they are caught up in the secrecy themselves because they want the inside scoop. They've added their lives to the list?

Is it really a case of protecting individual lives? Are these people taking a stand to expose or not? Is there anything worth dieing for? And, the fact that all these people have not banded together at the Camelot Central, there is no solution in numbers of fearless lightworkers. The rabbithole is THAT deep.

My tomatoes need picking & canning... have a good day.

cosmictexan · 08-28-2009, 06:07 PM

Thanks Karen for all the hard work you put into this site.

Lorien · 08-29-2009, 04:28 PM

I will say the same thing I have said before in similar threads including the thread about Greer. There is a fine line that needs to be adhered to when it comes to releasing information on these topics, otherwise adverse and irreparable damage will occur.

I know that if I were in their place, and had snippets of information, I would hold back as well. The problem lies in the lack of validity and believability if information is presented out of context or with not enough facts tied to it.

When it comes to truthers, whistle blowers, etc, one main thing that ends in their failure is in the fact that they present incomplete or unverified information which in the end, causes them to look like a nut and lose all future credibility.

Bill and Kerry have done a lot of work to get as much information out to us as possible while maintaining somewhat biased. I would hate to see them pass info on to us that is then shot down for any number of reasons causing us all to lose faith in them.

08-27-2009, 09:36 AM	#1
Karen Project Avalon Organizer Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: NE Oregon boondocks, USA Posts: 1,767	My Conversation with Kerry Aug 26, 09 My conversation with Kerry today. I've changed this up a little from my post to the bye bye whistleblowers thread and my reply to some accusations made there. About 2:30 PDT I was getting on the computer and checking out the new posts for the day when it soon became apparent the forum had gone down – dern it, I had just gotten on. A check on Camelot revealed the same. I skyped Gareth and he said it was probably a denial of service attack. If I understand correctly this is when “they” send so many hits to the site that it shuts down. And there are a lot of other things like sun spots that will take down sites. Gareth said the host would be notified and would fix it probably within the hour. After 2 hours I called Kerry Cassidy to inform her both sites were down. I've seen a lot of assumptions made about Bill and Kerry, like they are checking in on the forum but not participating, so I took the opportunity to ask if she checks in on the forum at all and she said no, it had been quite a while. Which confirmed what I thought, she only checks in when I call her about an issue. Her profile shows she last logged in two months ago (time of the last issue) and Bill hasn't been on since Dec 08. Now these are my words for the explanation not her exact words – the whirlwind that is Project Camelot has swept both her and Bill up into a incredible flurry of issues and business to attend to, especially now with the Whistleblower Radio Show. There has simply been no time to check in on the forum to see how things are going. So if you have any questions or comments that you really want Bill and/or Kerry to see put *BILL or Kerry in the subject line of an email and send it to support@projectcamelot.org. You can also contact Bill or Kerry individually at bill@projectcamelot.org or kerry@projectcamelot.org. I'll have to warn you though they get a ton of email and cannot possibly answer it all. Now I’ve heard moderators say, yes but when they were in Australia, they kept in touch with the moderator team, they weren't too busy then. OK that was then and this is now. I ask all who object to their absence from the forum to imagine how this thing has spiraled in size and scope since Australia so that they simply have no time to participate here. I don’t believe as some accuse that it’s a case of money-grubbing, turn the forum paid and then callously take off. Most people sign up at the $12/year rate. How quickly does that add up? Then I asked her how then did she know people on their own forum had been trashing them as she reported on a recent radio show - were people reporting that to her? Oh, that was a long time ago she said. So I inquired further, then you haven’t heard of the latest flurry of criticism on the forum about your interview with Greer? No she had no idea what was going on with the forum. But she had indeed heard plenty of criticism and plenty of compliments as well. I had a short conversation with her about the incident with Burisch over beliefs about vaccines and Dan and Marcia’s subsequent actions. Bill and Kerry do not wish to get caught up in any public discussion of the matter and the misinterpretations that are being told about them. So they remain mum on that topic. We ended with a short convo about all that they have found out about everything and what they have revealed is just a tiny fraction of how deep and how black it goes, (no details, I didn’t ask and I don’t want to know) and then she signed off to call the hosting company. I think she said black, with emphasis, about 5 times and sounded like they hold some seriously disturbing information. I guarantee everyone that 95% of the time when someone makes ASSured ASSumptions about a person’s motives or intent or actions – they are going to be wrong. I see it all the time! Every time one of the freebie subscriptions falls through the cracks and doesn't get processed (maybe 4 times so far) imaginations go nuts about why I decided not to give it to them. My imagination does the same crazy stuff when I don't hear back from people like I was expecting. It is just human nature that most of us imagine the worst. So what I do is ask questions. Make a call. Send an email. Put all those crazy ASSumptions to rest. Same thing happens with debunking of whistleblowers - people go off on some wild tangents about why the whistleblower is lying or this or that and state it as fact. Many Blessings to all, Karen Last edited by Karen; 08-27-2009 at 11:27 AM.*

08-27-2009, 10:06 AM	#2
rhythm Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: devon england Posts: 1,905	Re: My Conversation with Kerry Aug 26, 09 *Thanks again for all* *you do here Karen* *mich appreciation* *to you ...* *love and kindness rhythmmm ....*

08-27-2009, 11:11 AM	#3
Karen Project Avalon Organizer Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: NE Oregon boondocks, USA Posts: 1,767	Re: My Conversation with Kerry Aug 26, 09 You are welcome rhythm! What I have tried to do since before becoming a moderator is to simply ask questions and find out the truth. Then I post that to the forum. I saw people asking questions and getting no answers. Making complaints and not feeling heard. Posting and nobody answers or they answer rudely. I've watched forum and discussion email groups for over 10 years and watched people for over 57 years. The way you stop wild rumors, gossip and suppositions is to merely ask polite questions before spreading it all over the place. Especially in a group like this we are the first to be suspicious - in this world of intrigue, agents, double agents, triple agents. Yes, people do lie oh so cunningly - and that is when you call on your gut and all your life experience. But darn it we sometimes still get duped. OK, another life lesson. Smarter next time. Drop the negative reaction and look at the gift. Mature one step at a time. Another way to stop misinformation from making the circuit is to help with a polite correction of erroneous information when you know it. No need to get all huffy and puffy about it. That kind of attitude is rather contagious and indeed, subject to escalation. Drop the reactive vocabulary whenever possible for great results. I get something now - this is the time of the Shar, the crossing of the galactic plane, the time of increased energies - and the place where if you get ready - you can make the quantum leap into the newest part of creation. I see more clearly what part of the ascension material is truth and what is junk. All the little puzzle pieces are coming together. We are entering a place in our galactic space where there is more asteroid debris, more chance of solar flares, and magnetic pole shifts, maybe even an axial shift. In this time of increased physical danger we can be a stabilizing force by staying calm and centered. By knowing what could be coming we can prepare and be the rock while the heads of some of those around us are spinning a million miles an hour about these misunderstood changes. Then soon enough you have gone through the Shar (or not) and come out the other side. We came for this time. Be JOY. Do not fear.

08-27-2009, 11:23 AM	#4
giovonni Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: within my heart Posts: 1,209	Re: My Conversation with Kerry Aug 26, 09 *Thanks Karen for posting this~ and thank you very much for Always~ going beyond the call for all ~ here at Avalon*

08-27-2009, 12:28 PM	#5
sunflower Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Canada Posts: 443	Re: My Conversation with Kerry Aug 26, 09 Ditto Giovanni! Thanks from me also,Karen, for being so level-headed. I value your input on Avalon.

08-27-2009, 12:39 PM	#6
THE eXchanger Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Spiritual eXplorer-Canada Posts: 4,915	Re: My Conversation with Kerry Aug 26, 09 xxx Last edited by THE eXchanger; 09-14-2009 at 02:32 PM.

08-27-2009, 08:11 PM	#7
pineal-pilot-in merkabah Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: england Posts: 1,153	Re: My Conversation with Kerry Aug 26, 09 people who moan about whistle blowers are welcome to 'plug back into the matrix' if they wish. just dont come on the forum and tell people thankyou.. im sure bill and kerry know far more than they can say. im grateful for any information that passes my snout ty karen for putting it straight.

08-27-2009, 08:38 PM	#8
waitinginthewings Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: BC. Canada Posts: 1,340	Re: My Conversation with Kerry Aug 26, 09 Blessings & thanks Karen for sharing feedback with us. I have observed that people are sometimes very quick to judge, without having any facts. It is so easy to be an armchair critic. Try walking in the shoes of Bill & Kerry .Those who are so quick to judge & criticize may soon get a different feeling for what they have to endure., their safety & ridicule., exhaustion, airports, hotels, different foods, time changes, & on & on. I ask would any of you on this forum be willing to do the same in order to bring truth to humanity? Everytime I come on this forum or visit Camelot, I give thanks for Bill & Kerry for their incredible courage, tenacity, patience, & the intense desire to get to the truth & share it with us. Camelot & Avalon would not exist without them. I ask people to not forget that Bill & Kerry are human & can make mistakes, just like the rest of us. They are but dedicated researchers so how about we step up our vibration & give them the love & respect that they deserve. After all, is that not what this forum is all about. Blessings & love to all. Last edited by waitinginthewings; 08-27-2009 at 08:43 PM.

08-27-2009, 09:23 PM	#10
waitinginthewings Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: BC. Canada Posts: 1,340	Re: My Conversation with Kerry Aug 26, 09 Malletkzy: Perhaps the timing is not right for them to fully disclose. Maybe they have to choose it carefully & then release. I really don't believe that they are witholding for some crazy selfish reason. More than lightly there are other factors involved that we are not aware of.

08-27-2009, 09:49 PM	#12
Swanny I dont need a label ! Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: The Shire of Wilt Posts: 2,889	Re: My Conversation with Kerry Aug 26, 09 If they have info and don't disclose it then they are as bad as tptb

08-27-2009, 10:25 PM	#14
Swanny I dont need a label ! Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: The Shire of Wilt Posts: 2,889	Re: My Conversation with Kerry Aug 26, 09 Maybe they don't really know?

08-27-2009, 11:45 PM	#17
Hiram Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: San Francisco Posts: 119	Re: My Conversation with Kerry Aug 26, 09 I have continued to support project Camelot throughout the entire evolution of this endeavor. From the get go. I have phenomenal intuition about people, and I KNOW WITH CERTAINTY that Bill and Kerry's intentions are good, regardless of how those intentions are sometimes manifested. I know that any negativity is probably due to the highly charged energy of the material. Therefore I don't engage in the criticisms. That being said, I have some very strong feelings about those who withhold information. In particular the WAY in which is is withheld. Some parties in the UFO/Whistleblower community are extremely into withholding information for their own gain. They also have serious control issues...letting others know, that they know...but are not going to tell you! This is a control issue. What I have come to know, is that the keys to all of this info are INSIDE OF YOU AND YOU ALONE. Listen to what is said, ask questions, think, and feel deeply. Know that all belongs to all, all will be shared with all. This is a terrifying thing...looking into the abyss. It looks back my friends, it looks back at you. Do you turn around and tell those behind you what you see? Or do you know that they will be BETTER EQUIPED TO DEAL WITH THAT ABYSS if you jst tell them to prepare themselves. We are going to get through this just fine. Godspeed Kerry and Bill. May the wind be at your back, and let us know what will help us. Until then, we surrender to all that is.

08-28-2009, 12:21 AM	#19
Hiram Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: San Francisco Posts: 119	Re: My Conversation with Kerry Aug 26, 09 Unified Serenity.....Good points. I think those are fair questions you pose.

08-28-2009, 04:26 PM	#23
Moxie Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Beaver Lake, AR Posts: 402	Re: My Conversation with Kerry Aug 26, 09 It's good to know that the ptb's, from the top down, and in this 'lower level', b&k, have our best interests at heart. Seems to me, what Kerry thinks she knows, made her act so wacky w/Greer, I perceived a loss of groundedness... hersterical was showing. Seems at the get go of an interview, it should be stated "don't tell us anything that you don't want published". But now they are caught up in the secrecy themselves because they want the inside scoop. They've added their lives to the list? Is it really a case of protecting individual lives? Are these people taking a stand to expose or not? Is there anything worth dieing for? And, the fact that all these people have not banded together at the Camelot Central, there is no solution in numbers of fearless lightworkers. The rabbithole is THAT deep. My tomatoes need picking & canning... have a good day.

08-28-2009, 06:07 PM	#24
cosmictexan Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Texas Posts: 174	Re: My Conversation with Kerry Aug 26, 09 Thanks Karen for all the hard work you put into this site.

08-29-2009, 04:28 PM	#25
Lorien Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Beyond the rim.... Posts: 412	Re: My Conversation with Kerry Aug 26, 09 I will say the same thing I have said before in similar threads including the thread about Greer. There is a fine line that needs to be adhered to when it comes to releasing information on these topics, otherwise adverse and irreparable damage will occur. I know that if I were in their place, and had snippets of information, I would hold back as well. The problem lies in the lack of validity and believability if information is presented out of context or with not enough facts tied to it. When it comes to truthers, whistle blowers, etc, one main thing that ends in their failure is in the fact that they present incomplete or unverified information which in the end, causes them to look like a nut and lose all future credibility. Bill and Kerry have done a lot of work to get as much information out to us as possible while maintaining somewhat biased. I would hate to see them pass info on to us that is then shot down for any number of reasons causing us all to lose faith in them.