The Nancy Lieder - Dan Burisch Connection

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Original post by Dondep
Posted: Sun Jan 18, 2009 4:43 pm

The Nancy Lieder - Dan Burisch Connection

Today I had two questions out of the many that I've been asked that have stood out and deserve more of a fulsome response than I can give in a short email.

This could be quick or drawn-out. It isn't incumbent upon me to supply a rogue planet on request, as there's sufficient evidence of anomalous Earth behavior that Burisch's "galactic center" argument and "Timeline One variant 83" don't address. His "timelines" argument is in disarray, as he isn't sure now WHAT timeline is operative. Still no proof or evidence of the Looking Glass nor its prognostications. What happened to those premature announcements from him that his pal Benazir Bhutto would attain to the highest office of Pakistan, and be joined on the world stage by Hillary Clinton, who was to win the 2008 elections? Did all that ardor for first Hillary and then McCain (second choice, though at heart Dan was closer to Ron Paul than anyone in his ideology) evaporate without a whimper?

I have always urged preparation and refuse to be put on the defensive by first one faction and then the other. There are so many lies flying back and forth and so much willful ignorance that it could often be described (by me at least) as "intentional malevolence". The return of the "Destroyer", among its many names, has been known about from all forms of prophecy, as this is a cyclical event. In attempts to take advantage of the situation, the elite were suckered into a lie about the timetable, the better to draw them out and set the conditions for their collapse. This is only just now occurring, as the meltdown of the economy continues unabated even as we type this and cheer at the endless inaugural coverage - for a man that Burisch never expected to win, according to assurances given him. Now he chooses to clamber on the proverbial bandwagon, and amazingly proffers yet another lie, namely: " BECAUSE WHAT WE'VE SAID HAS COME TO PASS AND WE HAVE BEEN VINDICATED AS SUCH!". Yes, Benazir Bhutto is President of Pakistan (NOT). Hillary Clinton is President of the US (NOT). Nothing bad has happened, no rogue planet has passed (YET; more importantly, the fact your superiors such as MJ-2 Richard B. Cheney believed and acted on the May 2003 date allows he and his protege George W. to exit their offices in disgrace even as they blithely lie their way out the door whistling Dixie). Where is the 'Widget'? Where is the proof such things as Ganesh Particles not only exist but could be harvested and cultivated to do as they supposedly promise? Was Caltech just another public now-you-see-it-now-you-don't exercise? Where's the proof such a thing as the Lotus even exists? Where are the sales of 'healing music' that can actually be credited with helping real, living human beings unadulterated by unquestioning adulation? Are D&M still in the Sunchase, or have they moved to better digs now that they're vice-presidents and officers of a "major European bio-medical concern"?

The other question was:

"Why does it bother him [Dan] so much when the subject [of a Catastrophe] is brought up?"

Once upon a time, our galactic elders were hanging out, conversing, and pondered the fate of the Experimental World called by its inhabitants "Earth", which was to go through one of its periodic poleshifts that the Creator had programmed to occur approximately every 3,657 years, caused by the sling orbit of an extra-solar planet that alone among the planets of the solar system of the living star (called the Sun by Earth's inhabitants) and dead binary twin (called Nemesis by Earth's early Greek astronomers) traversed between both. Because the Creator had so ordained it at the time, the advanced inhabitants of neighboring worlds that were firmly committed to the goals of the Creator were given the privilege - and responsibility - to assist in the genetic engineering of more sophisticated generations of inhabitants, and to provide for the enlightening and retrieval of the souls manifesting in those inhabitants. They chose a race from another binary star system, who had advanced to the level where they were allowed interstellar travel and association with other worlds. Like most worlds, a small percentage of them, usually equivalent to the percentage of the ultra-powerful and materially-enriched elites among them, were allowed to compete for the souls' attention and loyalty, the better to claim them for their own for use on the worlds where they had been allowed to resettle, following their initial incarnations on their home worlds.

One of these worlds was a planet in Zeta Reticuli, where existed a civilization that some would compare to a kibbutz, or soviet collective, or commune. On this world, most of the inhabitants were willingly part of a community and turned their children over to the collective to have them raised and schooled, though the natural parents were of course allowed more of a role in the rearing though to what degree has never been made clear because both parties supporting the basic tenets of this paradigm are both supremely arrogant (DB and NL) and though admitting to the existence of the 'other', has refused to make comparisons. One such parent, who resented the fact he couldn't play a larger role in the schooling of his son (Chi'el'ah), had secretly joined a secret society, one in which the members were allowed to have names (though they could speak telepathically, giving a rationale to the mainstream culture for insisting on not allowing any individual to have a name). These names were quite complex, having several levels of meanings, and are invested with significant symbolic value. Chi'el'ah resented the fact his son was being unduly influenced by his teacher at school, and somehow also arranged to have himself selected as one of the initial "ambassadors" to Earth, to counter what a rival faction of Zetas had begun to do, which was to infiltrate in the third dimension the consciousness of Earth's predominant military force and power structure in general - the better to acquire souls in the development of their own world, and in contravention of the galactic elders' dictum known as the "Prime Directive" both fictionally and in practice.

Sometime after the arrival of this "ambassador" that Chi'el'ah was considered to be, two sets of treaties came to be recognized by the earthlings' supreme council (known first as MJ-12, then the CotM that MJ-12 was folded into) in charge of the relationships between the rival Zetan factions and themselves. Then we have the matter of how Chi'el'ah supposedly in 1973 was aboard a zetan craft that abducted one Dan Burisch, aged 9 at the time. According to what Chi'el'ah told Dan in the mid-1990s, he did this on his way back to 1953 in Kingman, AZ where he was initially captured along with his crashed craft after which he conveyed much information to his human captors once they developed a special climate for him to exist in, the so-called "Clean Sphere" and "Ambassadorial Suite" in S-4, a facility within or at minimum connected to the so-called 'Area 51'.

By the time Dan, who had taken part in a covert acclerated doctorate program ordered by Edward Teller at SUNY that culminated in 1989 in order to become well-versed in microbiology, officially "met" Chi'el'ah, under orders to research a cure for his (Chi'el'ah's) neuropathy, it was the mid-1990s and he was able to communicate to Chi'el'ah telepathically, so that only he (Dan Crain, as he was known then) was privy to what Chi'el'ah told him. Or so he thought. We know that officially, Chi'el'ah also told MJ-12/the CotM certain 'things' as well....things that could have been planted in "ancient writings" or "prophecies", things about the existence - or non-existence - of a "large winged planet", such as the one even Dan B. admitted would arrive, though he preferred to refer to it as an "ovoid energy mass" if memory serves me correctly (geez, I'll probably be crucified if I got a date or name wrong here or there; this is off-the-cuff here so respectful corrections are welcomed, but the gist is the same). Do we know everything Chi'el'ah told Dan B.? No, not even the information that would have an impact on our world were we to learn the extent of it. Do we know if what Chi'el'ah told Dan B. is truthful? No, because so far none of it has panned out. If there is proof of a "Ganesh Particle", then there should be proof of its existence, proof that can be accepted by those among us schooled in the discipline and even the onlooker of average intelligence. Even if we aren't allowed to replicate it, to harness said particles.

Now let's look at the evolution of Dan's approach to Nancy Lieder. When I first asked him about it, officially, he said that "Nancy is correct; PX is out there....but it's more akin to an oval mass of energy". That was in Nov. 2003. Then, in May of 2005, when Dan was being "allowed" limited interaction on the Golden Thread - then in its Stargate Forum period - I re-posted a ZetaTalk article, "Two Camps", in reaction to the polarization between the site Kate had begun (EaglesDisobey.org, now known as WyzWyrld) initially as a tribute to Marci before she came to disbelieve both Dan and Marci. Dan emailed me privately in encouragement of said ZetaTalk. We didn't talk too much about it, because I knew it would be a sensitive subject because of what other 'insiders' were saying.....in Dan B.'s world, the MAJ he was working with were 'good guys' and Chi'el'ah was if anything "STO - Service To Others". In Nancy L.'s world, Chi'el'ah was a mole, a traitor, a turncoat who had wormed his way into being the point-person for a group of Zetans in order to betray them. Or so they claim today. They claim Dan B. is "telling it like it was told to him", not intending to mislead anyone, and kept alive in his mistaken notion that he's doing good things for humanity by not calling for full, public, open and transparent hearings on the subject of the Coverup. In their view, their former comrade has told Dan a lie that's based on a theoretical truth - if a certain majority of inhabitants are of sufficient spiritual development, a world can "graduate" to a higher dimension. The "transformation" of a world, to such an existence, is even now ongoing, but it won't be occurring for those that put Dan B. up to his shenanigans and justify it by their "ends justify the means" balderdash. THOSE folks are being brought down, will be brought down, to a level where they can't escape justice no matter their elaborate plans based on dreams of "zero-point energy" they still think they can reverse-engineer from alien craft......based on their knowledge of bases on the far side of the Moon they can escape to (the ones air-brushed out of NASA photos) and possibly even places on Mars.....based on their well-stocked bunkers, on their control of military power and financial instruments....and instead of feeding hungry and homeless people for the sake of appearance, he should be quietly arranging for funding of windmill turbine factories, schools for teaching the making of beef jerky, animal husbandry....assembly plants for water filters.....buildings in the relatively safer areas that could withstand category 5 storms....etc.

So did Dan push Chi'el'ah through a 'stargate' in what amounted to a spherical baby-carriage in Dec 2003 and "live to tell about it"? Why did he leave then, and not before or after? Timing? MAJ personnel turned their heads away at the opportune moment? Nancy L.'s zetans calls those accounts "a pack of lies", and Dan B.'s zetan called her bunch a collection of "rogues", who "had humanity's worst interests at heart", and whose message would cause enough to worry and panic over the possiblity of a poleshift so that they would actually precipitate the event! They arrogantly and vehemently denounce the other's paradigm, in effect validating the opponent. At least that's what he was suggesting as 2006 wore on after he was officially "divided" and given his team of ex-MAJ thugs and retired black-ops agents and sock-puppets. But as late as mid-2006 he had still been sincerely answering "I honestly don't know" when it came to whether he knew if "Planet X" existed or not. Where is that intellectual honesty now?

And as of this writing, even as the inauguration of Barack Obama takes place on all the cable news channels, the illegitimate Rancher & Angler regime is still in power, and I wouldn't guarantee that any last-minute attempts at martial law would fail. They may be hiding it well, but privately MJ-2[retired?!?] is seething with the reality power is slipping through his fingers and he'll be lucky to leave DC without a tarring and feathering. Once the transition to power is complete, we'll know much better how any 'Disclosure' or timeline will be revealed; until then, I only see more and more quakes, more volcanoes erupting, more severe weather, more economic collapse, in short, more of the conditions under which it will be necessary to have prepared. And that's even without mentioning the ongoing chemtrails, which were once again being laid down heavily here early last week, and the fact the Moon is definitely out of place. Is this part of the "Timeline 2" hologram shown the privileged Dan B.? Is all of this part of the version of reality he's selling where any honest debate is tantamount to wishing disaster to strike? Do his statistics show a lessening of anomalous earth-changes and events? What does his "timeline" show for the justice due the rascals he once (if not still) worked for? Is everyone so happy that Obama has ascended to the Oval Office that they'll forget all about the crimes committed by officials of the former administration? Or will he decry all attempts at "justice" as "looking backward", etc? In short, can Dan Burisch stop calling the people of this forum names and describe as fully and truthfully what his latest "timeline" shows? I'm always willing to listen, as most readers are, but there is so much sanctimony and negative attention directed this way from the SNEDs cartoon characters that it's no surprise the reader is turned off.

We need full congressional hearings to get the full range of truth out into the "public data stream". In short, transparent, fulsome examination and accountability. Anything less is a cop-out, no matter how many sandwiches and bowls of soup SNEDs passes out tailgating from their Hummers. And yes, something will done about it in the weeks and months after this coming Tuesday, when Rancher vacates the Residency. Big Dick n' Dadmiral won't be at the helm anymore, even as they manuever behind the scenes. Hallelujah!

Dondep