trichosanthes kirilowii aids cure?

FrostyMcunicron · 09-10-2008, 11:13 PM

a few weeks back i distinctly remember hearing an interview with (the 1 and only) John Lear where he states an extract from the white fungus in which is found on the Chineese cucumber trichosanthes kirilowii reportedly could cure the aids virus if injected (idk exact # but somewhere between 25-35max in 36hours). i looked into this and couldnt find all too much except for a good articles & one weird patent http://www.freepatentsonline.com/5149528.html
along with this one on something known as TAP 29.

"An anti-human immunodeficiency virus (anti-HIV) protein capable of inhibiting HIV-1 infection and replication has been isolated and purified to homogeneity from Trichosanthes kirilowii. This protein, TAP 29 (Trichosanthes anti-HIV protein, 29 kDa), is distinct from trichosanthin [also known as GLQ 223 (26 kDa)] in size, N-terminal amino acid sequence, and cytotoxicity. In addition to three conservative substitutions--namely, Arg-29 to Lys, Ile-37 to Val, and Pro-42 to Ser--a total difference of residues 12-16 was found. TAP 29 yielded -Lys-Lys-Lys-Val-Tyr-, whereas trichosanthin has -Ser-Ser-Tyr-Gly-Val-. Although the two proteins exhibit similar anti-HIV activity, as measured by syncytium formation, p24 expression, and HIV reverse transcriptase activity, they differ significantly in cytotoxicity, as measured by their effects on cellular DNA and protein syntheses. At the dose level of the bioassays, 0.34-340 nM, trichosanthin demonstrates a dose-dependent toxic effect on host cells. TAP 29 displays no toxic effect, even at 100 X ID50, whereas trichosanthin demonstrates 38% and 44% inhibition on cellular DNA and protein synthesis, respectively. These results indicate that the therapeutic index of TAP 29 is at least two orders of magnitude higher than that of trichosanthin. Thus TAP 29 may offer a broader safe dose range in the treatment of AIDS. etc."

http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/articlerender.fcgi?artid=52128

opinions please, If its not scientifically sound do post.

bodzoyfa · 09-11-2008, 12:14 AM

I also saw the same Lear interview and wondered about that. If you've watched any of Cathy O'Brien's interviews, she talks about how she saw many famous politicians receiving injections that were meant to stave off HIV. She said there are cures for all of the epidemics that plague our world. And I believed that before I heard it from her!

FrostyMcunicron · 09-11-2008, 04:46 AM

Agreed; i also went through life believing similar.

majorlee · 09-11-2008, 04:39 PM

any one got any seeds?

Greg10036 · 09-13-2008, 11:22 PM

Clarkia kills HIV and AIDS. The Hulda Clark Program is the name. I recommend Hulda's book "The Cure for All HIV and AIDS". Love and Peace.
Greg

09-10-2008, 11:13 PM	#1
FrostyMcunicron Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: a box in the inner city w. a slight chance of suburbia New Jersey Posts: 160	trichosanthes kirilowii aids cure? a few weeks back i distinctly remember hearing an interview with (the 1 and only) John Lear where he states an extract from the white fungus in which is found on the Chineese cucumber trichosanthes kirilowii reportedly could cure the aids virus if injected (idk exact # but somewhere between 25-35max in 36hours). i looked into this and couldnt find all too much except for a good articles & one weird patent http://www.freepatentsonline.com/5149528.html along with this one on something known as TAP 29. "An anti-human immunodeficiency virus (anti-HIV) protein capable of inhibiting HIV-1 infection and replication has been isolated and purified to homogeneity from Trichosanthes kirilowii. This protein, TAP 29 (Trichosanthes anti-HIV protein, 29 kDa), is distinct from trichosanthin [also known as GLQ 223 (26 kDa)] in size, N-terminal amino acid sequence, and cytotoxicity. In addition to three conservative substitutions--namely, Arg-29 to Lys, Ile-37 to Val, and Pro-42 to Ser--a total difference of residues 12-16 was found. TAP 29 yielded -Lys-Lys-Lys-Val-Tyr-, whereas trichosanthin has -Ser-Ser-Tyr-Gly-Val-. Although the two proteins exhibit similar anti-HIV activity, as measured by syncytium formation, p24 expression, and HIV reverse transcriptase activity, they differ significantly in cytotoxicity, as measured by their effects on cellular DNA and protein syntheses. At the dose level of the bioassays, 0.34-340 nM, trichosanthin demonstrates a dose-dependent toxic effect on host cells. TAP 29 displays no toxic effect, even at 100 X ID50, whereas trichosanthin demonstrates 38% and 44% inhibition on cellular DNA and protein synthesis, respectively. These results indicate that the therapeutic index of TAP 29 is at least two orders of magnitude higher than that of trichosanthin. Thus TAP 29 may offer a broader safe dose range in the treatment of AIDS. etc." http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/articlerender.fcgi?artid=52128 opinions please, If its not scientifically sound do post.

09-11-2008, 12:14 AM	#2
bodzoyfa Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: east side Posts: 109	Re: trichosanthes kirilowii aids cure? I also saw the same Lear interview and wondered about that. If you've watched any of Cathy O'Brien's interviews, she talks about how she saw many famous politicians receiving injections that were meant to stave off HIV. She said there are cures for all of the epidemics that plague our world. And I believed that before I heard it from her!

09-11-2008, 04:39 PM	#4
majorlee Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 60	Re: trichosanthes kirilowii aids cure? any one got any seeds?

09-13-2008, 11:22 PM	#5
Greg10036 Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 144	Re: trichosanthes kirilowii aids cure? Clarkia kills HIV and AIDS. The Hulda Clark Program is the name. I recommend Hulda's book "The Cure for All HIV and AIDS". Love and Peace. Greg

09-11-2008, 04:46 AM	#3
FrostyMcunicron Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: a box in the inner city w. a slight chance of suburbia New Jersey Posts: 160	Agreed; i also went through life believing similar.