URGENT Coal Mine or Cave !!

[Pomguymguy]

So What Do We Know ?
There have been pole shifts before - North becomes South - South becomes North. We are connected to the magnetic fields of the earth and as the shift takes place we "feel" something inside of us happening !

Ancient civilizations were wiped out ! - Ancient knowlege has mostly been hidden from us till now - and as we piece it ALL together we get the bigger picture. How many of those ancients had all the knowlege? Was is just the select few - e.g. the elders who knew of their potential power ?

Clif High's theory is based on human potential - out collective language in future time lines = our collective human language (thoughts in the first place)
George Green follows a simular theme, basically.

So instead of many of us scratching around in the dirt like fowl, looking for something that maybe not there - could we not all concentrate our thoughts on the OUTCOME from the next imminent SHIFT. Then we get to manifest the future time line, seeing the majority of this planet coming through all this.

We HAVE THE POWER - The time line we want to go down is entirely our choice. Okay, if you want to go and hide out in a cave or coal mine, go for it !

But have we not all been hiding for so long - it is time to wake up and take full control of your own inbuilt link to the "Universal One" or "God" or whatever you call IT.

Come you you hundred monkeys - Thoughs truly are things - it all starts with a thought (be it positive or negative) it ALL creates and it is all ENERGY

[RubyTuesday]

Nice post and totally agree.

[unloadedgunn]

It is very east to simplify the current reality most are experiencing. It is very true that we all create own realities on the micro level, and that large groups have come together and actually "meditated" the crime rate down in a major city. There is definitely power in prayer/meditation/thought, and power in numbers. With roughly 1.1 billion Catholics in the world that power is scary indeed. In my well researched (30 years) opinion, the Catholic church is one of the most evil, corrupt institutions the world has ever seen. It has been designed to the EXACT OPPOSITE of what one might think. To deny ones birthright, to distance one from the divine, to implement a rigid hierarchical system of "go betweens" between the laity and the godhead. Can we individually change the wholesale perversion of this great institution? No way. All we can do as individuals is opt out, AND until the number of spiritual people and the level of intensity of their beliefs become as strong as these negative influences, good luck. You can choose to be happy today and live in love and acceptance, but part of that acceptance better be an acceptance that this paradigm is here, and until we (those on our own individual spiritual paths) reach critical mass we will have little/no influence over the outcome. If this all sounds cynical, that's because it is.

[pineal-pilot-in merkabah]

like green says that is ok to do but it wont have a big effect since the people who know what is going on and how we and the earth operate in time space ect , are few. agree with unloadedgunn. we must make our radiant zones and be the remnant that suvives the holocaust. thats why we are here. not save humanity in general because its fast asleep and doomed, but to save what we can that is good about humanity and move forward with that.

when there are only people like us left on earth 500 milllion then only our consciousness will be effecting the earth so then we will have a bigger effect. 6 billion people are about to have a massive load of negative energy and emotion forced upon them. the best countries equiped to deal with this will be india ect. much more spiritually advanced as a whole than western countries. this is why we are the ground crew is it not. are we ready to accept the spritualm physical and mental challenge. I AM

[Brinty]

Originally Posted by unloadedgunn

. . . . the Catholic church is one of the most evil, corrupt institutions the world has ever seen.

While I agree whole heartedly with that view, I would just like to point out that the word "church" has three meanings: it is a building - it is a group of people meeting for religious purposes - it is the hierarchy of a religious order.

I believe that it is in the last of these meanings where the corruption can be found. The sheep in the flock, (the second meaning) can't be blamed for the sins of the shepherd.

[unloadedgunn]

I don't agree Brinty. The religious appologists and the moderates are just as much to blame for our state of affairs as the Arch Bishops and Popes with their ritual child abuse blood sacrifices etc. Because the MASS NUMBERS of the laity give them the power. There is MASSIVE power in thought/prayer/intention and these masses of "sheep" as you so aptly call them, are not without blame for our reality. Read "The End of Faith" great book.

[Brinty]

Originally Posted by unloadedgunn

I don't agree Brinty. The religious appologists and the moderates are just as much to blame for our state of affairs as the Arch Bishops and Popes with their ritual child abuse blood sacrifices etc. Because the MASS NUMBERS of the laity give them the power. There is MASSIVE power in thought/prayer/intention and these masses of "sheep" as you so aptly call them, are not without blame for our reality. Read "The End of Faith" great book.

While I agree with you in principle unloadedgun, I still feel that there is a subtle difference in the guiltiness of those who knowingly lead others down the wrong path, and the witless ones who haven't got the will to question what they are told to do. If this guilt could be given a monetary value as a measure, then the guilt of the top echelon in the church would be in hundreds of dollars, while the flock would be priced in cents.

Mind you, when I come to think of it, there are a hell of a lot more flock than shepherds so the total value of cents could come close to the cost of shepherds. So in the long run I'll concede that you could be right.

[unloadedgunn]

Amen Brother

[Merlyn]

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Pomguymguy and others,

Ineresting you posted you message look at the thread over
on Camelot forum posted a few hours ago...

"Famous Scientist and Bill and Kerry"

http://projectavalon.net/forum/showthread.php?t=5072



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[solitaryman]

To UNLOADEDGUN I can feel your hathred transpires through your words but If you study the history of all the religions you will find evil not only the catholics have a bad history.Monks warriors and assasins in buddhism and hindouism,muslims and protestants.ect.I feel you are more like loaded gun and ready to shoot any catholic.Don't answer back to my posting ,I am not interested in rhetoric dicussion. "The essential is invisible to the eyes"

[unloadedgunn]

Solitaryman...

I know I do not need to respond to your post, but I choose to do so anyway. I have no hatred towards Catholics. And when it comes to my disdain for all things religious, I am a an equal opportunity guy. I group all major dogmas with the catholics, including Judaism, Islam, and all protestants churches as well. I also have no shortage of disdain for those who would try to tell me what am thinking or feeling.

PEACE

[Pomguymguy]

Thanks for that Merlyn - Taken on board

Pineal-pilot-in-merkabah - Surley if we follow that line of thought who knows ! because the 500 million will be slaves to the NWO anyway ! Green says we only need to wake up a few, not all of the 6.8 billion (and rising)

Sure, it will send massive shockwaves through the planet.

Unloadagunn - Yes the Catholic church is all part of the massive manipulation of society - and so it continues.

Brinty - spot on - we just need to wake up a few more. I know a devout Christian family here in Oz - Mum is 70+ with 3 sons, all married and ALL 'Born Again' - the youngest son aged 40 is out on his soapbox every Saturday morn - with bible in hand "repent you sinners' etc ! How do you wake them up ?

I feel for the "Diggers" and other war vets who will have to come to terms with the fact that it was all false - there was no enemy on the end of their gun sights - The true enemy was sitting back and enjoying the 'Game'

I read recently about pre- WW2 in the U.K. When there were doorstep deliveries of milk in pint bottles. The sparrows learnt how to open the milkbottle tops and get at the cream. When the war broke out the deliveries stopped. When the deliveries stared again, 6 years after the sparrows returned and carried on, getting the cream again. But all the previous sparrows had died years before - so who passed on the information ?

So guys and galls what are WE ALL here for at this moment in time ?

[THE eXchanger]

Originally Posted by Brinty

there are a hell of a lot more flock than shepherds so the total value of cents could come close to the cost of shepherds. So in the long run I'll concede that you could be right.

opps, i need to post in my message

it i$ the flock, that allows the shepherd's to have an easy ride through life

perhaps, it is time for the flock to stop supporting them !!!

once a long time ago,
someone came up with an idea,
to put white arm bands on the slaves,
that, way, they would stand out,
they changed their minds on this idea,
since, the ones with the bands,
would then see, that, they were the majority...
and, it would be much easier for them to see,
who didn't have bands-and, take them out !!!

[THE eXchanger]

Originally Posted by Pomguymguy

So guys and galls what are WE ALL here for at this moment in time ?

To find out...
when you go to sleep,
ask, your essence/or higher self (or, what i call, your Missing Capstone)
to come to you,
and, to tell you that in your dreams

brightest blessings
susan
the eXchanger

[Carol]

On one level I have given up preparing for a pole shift. Should that happen, I figure god will sort out where I need to be. For example, we did prepare for Y2K. Moved to 5k foot level in the mountains. Buried a 40 container into the hillside filled with storage supplies and long term food for some type of cataclysm. Now here we are 3,000 miles away on a speck of an island that has an active volcano on it. I actually feel safer here because of how people relate to one another and are seen as an extended family then on the mainland where we were under constant bombardment of overhead chemtrail spraying.

I've come to the conclusion that there is no such thing as a safe place should a pole shift occur. So it isn't worth it to me to worry about this or give it too much attention.

However, I do like to prepare for other types of situations where there would be no power, where water needs to be stored and where food is also stored. These are the types of actions any normal person would think of when living in hazardess areas with power outages due to storms that are almost everywhere on the planet. I do tend to think about how the financial world is imploding and am very curious as to how this will all come down.

However, I talked with my mother who is 85. She tends to be somewhat stoic saying she lived through the depression in the 30s, has watched the markets go up and down and has very little concern about world events other then her water pipes broke because it snowed last night. I really like how she stays focused on her day to day life, goes to church, visits my dad's grave and leaves a decorative pumpkin on it for the fall season, helps her friends and just is living her life fully.

I think we are meant to do what we can to be self-sufficient as our parents, grand-parents and great grand-parents were. That seems to me a worthy goal. They had good values, were friendly with their neighbors, helped each other out and shared what they had.

A cole mine or a cave.. ? A pole shift will also result in 300 mile per hour winds, massive earth quakes and tsunamis. Only god knows where we will be. One can plan and end up someplace not even close to the santuary that was prepared.

Subsequently, I'm at the point where it is best to do what is necessary. Download info on how to live without electricity.. have the basics and just flow with gods will... the Hopis say this is the time to let go of the rivers edge, flow to the middle and see who is there alongside you. This is a time of letting go and letting god. It is a time of reconnecting to ones inner-spiritual self and intuition. It is also the time to take that leap of faith and trust in god that at the right time... we will fly.

I suspect some will tansition into the 5th dimension while those who neglected their inner spiritual core may be stuck in the 3rd dimension for the pole shift. Who is to say what will be... certainly not I.

[burgundia]

Yes, let's all concentrate on the POSITIVE!Peace of mind, positive thoughts, no fear, no hate, no any negative emotions. Who knows, maybe it's thanks to the people like us, that we haven't had anything really horrifying happen to earth and us yet. Let us continue this way....