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http://movies.yahoo.com/news/movies....ern-bankers-ap
Oliver Stone: Hitler 'enabled by Western bankers' (AP) ![]() BANGKOK - Adolf Hitler was a psychopath and a monster but rose to power thanks to big business leaders and other supporters who appreciated his vow to destroy communism and control workers, Hollywood filmmaker Oliver Stone said Monday. Stone, who is working on a 10-part documentary on the 20th century titled "The Secret History of the United States," said the German dictator was "enabled by Western bankers" and managed to "seduce" Germany's military industrial complex. "Hitler is a monster. There is no question. I have no empathy for Hitler at all. He was a crazy psychopath," Stone told reporters in the Thai capital. "But like Frankenstein was a monster, there was a Dr. Frankenstein. He is product of his era." Stone was in Bangkok to give a lecture to high school students on the role of film in peace-building as part of a visit organized by the Vienna-based International Peace Foundation. He said the aim of his documentary, which two historians are helping him with, was to offer a fuller understanding of the 20th century and how some of those lessons may be relevant to President Barack Obama in 2010. "What has America become? How can we in America not learn from Germany in the 1930s," the Oscar-winning director asked. Earlier in the day, Stone told about 300 students that his 1991 movie "JFK," was his most controversial to date and that the United States remains in denial over the possibility that someone other than Lee Harvey Oswald could have assassinated John F. Kennedy. Stone said exploring alternative theories over the JFK assassination remains too sensitive for those in the media or academia who "would be endangering their careers and their position." "To this day, many key Americans in power are in total denial about this story," Stone said. "They don't even want to know about the possibility that he was killed by someone other than Lee Harvey Oswald. It is a national fairy tale." "JFK" ridicules the Warren Commission's conclusion that Oswald acted alone and suggests a massive conspiracy. Stone's film centered on a theory by New Orleans District Attorney Jim Garrison that a CIA-led mutiny killed the president and the plotters walked away unscathed. Garrison's theories went to court in 1967, but Clay Shaw, the alleged "evil genius" behind the assassination, was acquitted. Stone said Monday he thought it was "a good thing" to revisit the JFK assassination. But he came under fire from the historians and film reviewers who contended Stone had fudged facts, invented characters and elevated speculation to truth to support his burning belief that the killing was a high-level government conspiracy. "It's an amazing story and I did it," Stone said. "I thought I would be respected for it, and I was lambasted in the establishment press. I was called a myth-maker, a propagandist. I didn't see it coming. I thought the Kennedy murder was safe." Stone is famous for several other movies, including the Vietnam War films "Born on the Fourth of July" and "Platoon," which won four Oscars, including best picture and best director. |
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Nazi King
Saturday January 16, 2010 at 10 pm ET/PT on CBC News Network But unbeknownst to this infamous couple, the night before the ship docked, President Roosevelt had instructed FBI chief J. Edgar Hoover to launch what was to be an extraordinary covert intelligence exercise, one that had to fool both the exiled royals and the American secret service agents guarding them. The final FBI report, recently released under the U.S. Freedom of Information Act, running to 227 pages, reveals that the Duke and Duchess of Windsor harboured pro-Nazi sympathies and that Edward was earmarked by Hitler as a potential puppet king if Hitler defeated Britain. http://www.cbc.ca/documentaries/pass...2009/naziking/ A LOT of people have ALWAYS got it. |
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i often ask myself....
What will Knowing, Do....? |
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Hitler's name has taken on a life of it's own. He was allegedly a monster that murdered 6 million people. A staggering number which forensics cannot confirm. I never actually met Hitler, thankfully, but I do get the feeling he was more of a pawn than a monster by just a little independent thinking.
Looking at simple facts: 1) "Hitler's" bones have recently been discovered via DNA testing to be that of a woman. So, Hitler's remains are proven not to be his. (we have no idea what really happened to him.) 2) Jews were never made into human soap or lamp shades as our own government claimed. 3) Hitler opened relocation training camps for Jewish settlers going to Palestine (Israel) to trian them for the harsh conditions of the middle east in the 30's. 4) Hitler sent supplies via Nazi vessels to Palestine for the settlers. 5) Only other flag allowed to fly during Nazi Germany was the "Israeli" flag of the Zionist movement. 6) Hitler was sent into the Workers Nationalist Party (Nazi Party) to disrupt it by the government. 7) Hitler was found guilty of treason and sentenced to death by the government for leading the Nazi party instead of disrupting and disbanding them. 8) Allegedly he became very popular during his trail for his radical racist view and miraculously pardoned. (say what!) 9) Hitler didn't actually right his own book. He allegedly had dictated it to an enlisted man under his command while sitting in a Russian prison during ww1. (interesting. I wonder if he even read it?) 10) Hitler's parents were Austrian. He grew up around Jews in Austria. He considered Austria his homeland not Germany. 11) It is believed he had contracted syphilis during his ww1 days. Was being treated with a combination of highly toxic drugs. 4 shots per day. (Forensic science examined his dr's diary to conclude this) 12) 150,000 Jews served in the Nazi military. 13) Blacks also served in the Nazi military. I do not have the numbers. 14) The Red Cross had ample access to the concentration camps through out most of the war and prior to the war. They found no evidence of mass executions. They were allowed to bring prisoners care packages and did find a typhus outbreak and disinfecting chambers. The Red Cross could account for 250,000 dead from disease. They were prevented from continuing the care packages at the end of the war due to dangerous conditions. 15) scholars can only verify 1% of the Jewish holocaust survivor's claims. Many Jews who claimed to have been in the holocaust have been proven flase for many were never in Germany at the time of the holocaust. Many used the holocaust as an avenue to sell books, ect. 16) The Russians announced the 6 million dead Jews numbers with no evidence to back up the claim. 17) Forensic testing for gas residue in Auschwitz cannot confirm the gas chamber was ever used as a gas chamber however, they can confirm the disinfecting chamber with residue testing. It is believed the "gas chamber" was indeed a air raid shelter as German nazi's clammed after the war. 18) The major camps also had swimming pools and stages for plays. They are not on the tours but are in the camps even today. 19) Nazi is slang for nationalist. 20) Nazi and allies both agree that much of the starvation found in the camps in the end of the war was due to lack of supplies being shipped to the camps. This was a direct result of allied bombings that disrupted supplies. 21) The camp prisoners were showered, heads shaved and clothing destroyed due to typhus outbreak as an attempt to control the disease. 22) Logistic analyst of the 6 million dead claim proved that the death camps needed to be running non stop for a longer period of time than that of given history accounts for. 23) Recent expeditions for "long lost death camps" have come up empty handed. 24) Recent searches for huge mass graves have also come up empty handed. 25) One of the first targets the Germans secured was middle eastern oil. 26) Hitler revoked all German citizenship for Jews in the 30's and started relocation to Palestine. 27) a number of German innocent "Jews" who survived the war were relocated to Israel and upon arrival changed there names. (Strange of you ask me.) 29) though Japan had attacked Pearl harbor our forces were heavily concentrated on Europe first. And the middle east. 30) Germany declared war on the USA after we declared war on them. Not before. 31) Japan and Germany had no intention of taking out mainland USA for they feared the armed citizens. "A rifle between every blade of grass" as the Japanese put it. 32) Japan bombed pearl to keep us out of the war. (Guess that kind of back fired on them.) 33) In the 30's the government had already begun a research project to gauge mass media mind control using the radio. it was called the Princeton Radio Project. Remarkably Germany had also done a similar project and worked with the USA on this task. 34) Mass media media mind control is also known as "sales and advertising." 35) The German's actually measured the responses to the masses via radio, music and incorporated findings in Hitler's speeches. 36) Those techniques have been incorporated into mass media in every major country today. Knowing there is a mass mind control program that has been ongoing for decades why on earth would anyone believe official accounts anymore? |
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Are those quotes from the latest Neo-nazi gazette? What a load of bollocks.
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