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Originally Posted by ENdJOY

you are quite right, but your understanding of "myth" may need to be updated

"I did not create a myth; I translated a Tributary Zone into a sensory data stream that can catalyze the human thalamocortical system to awaken its innate connection to the Genetic Mind. I refer to it as a mythology only because I must convey -- in good conscience -- that the material is not completely factual."

When he could no longer sustain the charade, James admitted that the WMM is not completely factual. He was heavily pressured to do so by public disbelief but he didn't go far enough. His good conscience still sleeps while he maintains that his source is anything but a perusal of the religious and metaphysical literature of the world and all the conspiracy theories we've all read. Conscience slumbers on while James maintains that he remote viewed the nuts and bolts of his story, claiming them as 'fictional accounts' of 'factual occurences'. And: "aquired info" of "factual scenarios". He remote viewed the 'factual occurances'? By James' account, apparantly so but mind you it was no ordinary "remote viewing'. It's a type of RM that is virtually unique to James. As are all his other extraordinarly unique powers.

Originally Posted by ENdJOY

Question 8: If the WingMakers story is both truth and fiction, how are we to discern which is which? If the identity of the WingMakers is quite authentic (i.e. true), how can it also be myth (i.e. fiction)?

Buddha stated: "All reality is a myth. Myth becomes ever nearer to reality. "The quality of one's discernment is proportional to their ability to accelerate their movement to the Sovereign Integral state of consciousness. A system of philosophy like the WingMakers requires a high-level of discernment, and it is therefore teaching on multiple levels simultaneously by intermixing truth and fiction.

"All reality is a myth to the 'egoic mind' while all farce occupies it's fancy.
Reality - what the 'egoic mind' thinks is myth - is revealed as one awakens to Buddhic Mind."

Yes, a high level of discernment is required to know WMM as it really is. Same goes for many other religious and metaphysical materials because they do teach on multiple levels simultaneously, sometimes mixing truth with fiction too. But two things about this:

First, it appears to me that the reason you frequently repeat the necessity for high discernment is because you're really saying; "If you have any objection whatever to the WMM then you simply are not discerning enough. You're just not going deep enough. Those of us who have no objections are the most discerning. So let me repeat again, you do need a high level......."

That is the constant rejoinder used to deal with all objections: "You are the problem. There is no problem with the WMM."

Well it can sometimes be the case when dealing with concepts of truth that greater depth of perception is needed to discern them. But when one has gone within and discerned the origin of the concepts in the WMM, including the truths and the lies then one cannot be swayed by the repetition of your continual admonishments. While the admonishment is not out of place in a scenario where truth is presented it is just mind control when associated with half-truths, lies and plaigerised truths used to sell a bigger lie.

A few of your statements for example:

"This material is not meant for the weak of mind or lazy of heart."

"It is extremely challenging on many different levels, discernment being one of them."

"There is a significant amount of information encoded into the art and music that bypasses the conscious mind."

If anyone has any objections at all to any aspect of the WMM we are dismissed as:

"weak minded"

"lazy hearted"

"not up to the challenge"

"undiscerning".

"attacking James" .... etc

Do you know that all music is encoded with information that bypasses the conscious mind? Some of it will shred the subtle bodies, while others can take you to sublime states. In that state there is a 'significant amount of information' available. Same goes for some art.

Once again the WM Music and Art is presented as singularly unique in that regard just like so much of James info and personal powers. We'd be toast without him.

But back to the point i began earlier from this quote: .... the WMM requires a high level of discernment and it is therefore teaching on multiple levels simultaneously by intermixing truth and fiction.

Much of the religious and metaphysical literature (+ art and music) is teaching on multi-levels simultaneously and does require high discernment, i agree. We do not need to overly concern ourselves with splitting fact from fiction if they serve each other well and are well intentioned. But mixing truth with half-truths, palaigered truths, false claimed events 'remote viewed', lying about conspiracy "facts", psuedo science and unprecedented unique personal powers is a totally different matter. So let's not characterise all objections to the WMM as merely objecting to reasonable artistic license. My own objections certainly have not been confined to that.