That was a great tirade Force4 and you are right on. Its one thing to read about sustainability. Its another thing to think about sustainability. Quite another to plan to be sustainable and a whole different ballgame to impliment it. I have made a start, but thats all it is at the moment. A start. Also being self-sufficient takes time. Times that we take for granted in a convenience society. Milking the cow takes half an hour, that includes feeding the pig, the pet lamb and the hens. Also dealing with the milk, making butter, cottage cheese sour cream etc. Gardening takes time also. Im not moaning. I live on a farm and would be doing most of these chores anyway. Ive just added a few more in light of the coming predictions. And yes, I take your point about romanticing the old days. The old days were +++++y hard Im sure. Until I started taking some "action" the whole idea of sustainability overwhelmed me, but as I took the actions towards it, other ideas came to me and now Im on a bit of a roll. The group in my area who are awake and planning share ideas and technologies of solar wind etc. I dont invision being without electricity and conveniences for too long, but Im preparing to be for a period
