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Old 12-08-2008, 06:54 PM   #71
Ashatav
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Default Re: Wingmakers: Fact, Fiction, or Good Story with some truth...

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Originally Posted by milk and honey View Post
The truths that "James" includes in his work are taken from the spiritual teachings of the past. He has obviously read them and the countless commentaries on them. These concepts of truth which he simply re-packages with a few clinical terms of his own are not new or fresh. For thousands of years the spiritual adepts have been teaching that the individual soul (the intelligent fragment in matter of the spiritual- Self) is trapped in the dualistic polarities of the outer-ego (the carnal mind) and that this keeps souls trapped in the mass consciousness (the world) and ever mindless of the higher- Self.

Does that sound familiar? Just transcribe it with all "James" new words, and his own mis-representations and there it is, 'shiny new' "Wingmakers" to help us go "where no man has gone before."

The adepts have known Oneness intimately and taught the Way for ages:

"The kingdom of heaven (the consciousness of Spirit personified) is within you".

"Seek and you will find (your real-Self within)" ...... "Knock and the (inner) door shall be opened (to conscious awareness)" --- Jesus the Christ.

Guatama also taught us to seek the light of Self- knowledge within. He called it Buddha Mind. The Buddha Self must 'cleanse' the dualistic lower-ego from the 'mental poisons' (false concepts) which keep the soul ignorant and stuck in 'worldliness' (the mass consciousness).

Does that sound familiar?

In Krishna's teachings, the same concepts appear .... "Krishna (the teacher) was the higher- Mind and Arjuna (the student) was the soul in matter. Again, the concept that the soul can awaken to spirit. See Krishna (the higher- Self) riding in his carriage with Arjuna. Krishna has a steady hand on the reigns of 4 horses (the 4 bodies of man ) all acting under the direction and superior intelligence of Krishna (the higher- Self).

In this scene the physical and subtle bodies (the 4 horses) have become obedient servants to the higher-Self because the dualistic egoic impulses have been inactivated and stilled. The soul - arjuna - is freed from the pull of the senses and the lower- ego (wild horses) and realises the joy of Oneness with Krishna who steers the horses with consummate ease. The adepts have all delivered the same basic message... Go within and realise the "kingdom", the "Buddha" and "Krishna-consciousness". Different words for the higher-Self..... same solution to the human condition.

Does that sound familiar too?

It should if you've been reading the WMM. But James prefers to play semantic games with the terms 'God, Spirit, Soul, atma' etc which the historically identifiable adepts used in their spiritual teachings. He believes that those concepts originated not in the higher- Mind of the adepts but in what he calls the "Human Mind System". Consequently, he believes they're just another historical deception.

But They're not. Everything James has written about the 'Sovereign Integral' is a carbon copy of the Spiritual-Self / God-consciousness / Buddha-Mind / Krishna- consciousness / Christ- consciousness /Atma / God / Spirit etc etc etc as taught by the historical adepts. Every one of those terms signify the HIGHER- SELF (ie the "brand new" "Sovereign Integral") and like James, the adepts have all taught that IT IS WITHIN OURSELVES NOT SEPARATE OR OUTSIDE OF OURSELVES as James seems to think they did. His failure to discern that, puts him at the level of understanding of a christan sunday school teacher. The other alternative is that he has constructed that straw man only to demolish it. But why?

Because it demolishes virtually every other source of spiritual information which we are likely ever to come across. His denials and dismissals are a weapon of mass destruction designed to set James personally and the WMM apart from virtually everything else in the field of spirituality and metaphysics. Pretty ambitious eh? Everything must be demolished including the US Constitution. The NWO is after all an inevitable step on the path to freedom is it not?

James seems just as confused about ascension, averring that somehow ascension was taught by the adepts as a belief - again the product of the "HMS" - in an external union with an external God source. They never taught that at all, as i've shown.

Jesus ascended. But James misrepresents the concept of ascension. Jesus' soul united with the Christ-consciousness and ascended to his highest Self - the I AM. (the 'Father'). He did not go to an external place. His soul rose to permanent union with his spiritual- Self. He ascended to a 'place' in consciousness.

I realise that James doesn't believe in the version of ascension which he dismisses but he must believe that the adepts share a similar delusion with those modern folk who believe ascension is something that will happen to them as a result of a wave of energy in 2012.

Somehow, after all his misunderstandings James + the WM acknowledge Jesus as a high Spiritual Helper of humanity. Many of the 'alien saviors' like to say that they share the stage with Jesus but i believe the pretense is purely for convenience to cast their nets as wide as possible. Urantia, Nesara, Galactic Federation, semjase group, and many others include him in their line-up and 'ride to earth' on his coat tails. One iron in the fire is Jesus' return to Eath don't forget. The possibilities are obvious.

We can rationalise James' denial of the enlightened adepts' teachings any way we please, yet that is where he got most of his own schpiel. If Jesus, Guatama and others had not realised Oneness with the true- Self they simply could not have concieved, nor expressed so elegantly, the concepts which reveal their self-mastery. All James has done is repackage them and their work without due acknowledgement and then proceeded to invalidate their concepts as merely an ignorant expression of the HMS.

There are several possible reasons why James' 'whole effort is towards taking things away that many still cling to and identify with" but only some are valid. One is "in the moment" to let go of false concepts that keep the soul's attention focussed in the lower- ego, so that one can experience direct awareness of the spiritual-Self. Another is "in the moment" to let go of all concepts of the outer-mind to experience that union with the higher-Self. Yet another reason "James" may be "taking things away that people identify with" is so that he can summarily dismiss the true adepts and their teachings and substitute his own agenda - and those who back him - in their place. That's a lot different to sharing the stage with them and representing their teachings truthfully.

So i wouldn't rush to impute a pure motive to James' WMM when so many obvious problems are evident.

My reading of "james" is that he/she is part of a sophisticated chorus of psy-operatives who are trying to sever this generation from the past. It is also evident to me, from other comments he makes and the stories he invents, that he is part of the campaign to usher in Bush's New World Order. There's enough saccharine there to coat the tonsils of the chorus but it's obvious to me who they are and how they operate. James is just one of the ushers in the NWO theatre. That's his contribution.... fascinating theatre.


Agree, it have to many flaws.



Why believe the first thing who comes from NOWHERE with our eyes closed because it smells nice???


The people believes anything these days who seems aceptable.



Thank you theosophy!



(hahaha in this forum if a person don't believe totally odd things is a strange, me included!)


Cheers!
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