[Circlewerk]

Originally Posted by sammytray

Circlewerk,

A most wonderful description with explanation!
Thank you kindly for your input... This information is 'pinging' with me.

So NO emotion is ultimately the goal?
'isness' is NOT emotion? How or what 'word' can describe 'isness'. (like some would explain it as love) But I have read love is not an emotion.

To feel no emotion, is detachment from the illusion, which allows the observer to be the observer, unconditional, instead of what is observed as if it is real or lasting.
When no emotion is applied to what is happening, perhaps there is a greater vibration, a more honest sensation of connection, beyond judgment, competition or desire. Beyond division.
Can any of us be there long enough, to really feel our unified force? Emotion seems to take us away, back into self-consciousness, " I, me, mine."
We have been so influenced to be emotional, and to trust that these emotions are really us.
"IS," is without definition, it is the great uncertainty, but man has been trying to define it, box it up, for what seems like forever, so that he can have it as known, which is the insecurity of the self-conscious ego, thinking it must label everything.
How can man get comfortable in the unknown, when he has been psychologically built to be insecure there, coupled with an ego that is pumping with desire?
Love, is a vibration of release, it seems..
I cannot say accurately what love is, I think my thinking mind will lessen it's vastness. But if love is desired, if one is lonely, he is further from love the moment desire is introduced.

Even the desire to put a word to the "IS" kills the ability to tap it. Desire takes you out of the vibration all together.

I guess the only way to control emotion...lets say anger is to add love which conquers it. However, where did 'anger' come from? Why should we EVER have that emotion? Maybe a lack of "knowledge"??

I think that the thought to control emotion, is just shifting to another emotion. Which defeats the purpose, no?
It seems that all emotions exist on one scale, and although some may deliver the individual higher frequencies than others, they are still keeping the individual on that scale. Maybe it's about getting beyond the scale of emotion.

And maybe that emotional scale, is the result of a collection of past & future thought, hope, belief, conditioning, division.... which all make up psychological time.
Psychological time, keeps man imprisoned in this experience as a sheep, easily influenced, easily lead away from himself, looking to others for answers.

He is attached in emotion, thinking the experience is real, defining him, instead of being an unconditional observer, allowing each experience to end the moment it does, so that he can unfold in the enormous vibration of uncertainty, where pure action and intuition surface, creating a profound, constant experience.


Is it a ruse? Emotion?


If so, are we playing this trick on ourselves?
Tricky, no doubt..but a trick, a ruse?..are emotions acquired from a source other than us?
If emotions are the result of thoughts, and our thoughts are not always our own, how would the individual recognize his thoughts versus an acquired, recycled thought, which causes emotion too?
This deserves further investigation, maybe.


I know I can 'block' a certain emotion from rising up from the gut but only by 'talking' myself out of it per say. With another emotion!

I understand.
In employing neutrality, I am afforded the opportunity, to see my self-consciousness, the way it tries to attach to an emotion, even if it is a supposed emotional "step up" like from anger to love.
Personally, I simply stop, close my eyes. Realize a breath, and allow myself to be conscious of vibration, that desires nothing.
When I tap unconditional, infinite consciousness, I see that the lower vibrational idea of "me", is what gets caught up in the illusion/desire/time/emotion gig.
Sort of like living in body or out of body.


another thing... creation is focus or intent right? Would you say we 'need' emotion to create whether positive or Negative?

Or is it simply KNOWLEDGE that overides ANY emotion thus creating NATURALLY with OUT emotion?

Original thought vibration, creates. Constantly.
No attachment to what it created now, or now, or right now..
No attachment to whether or not that creation will continue or cease to exist.
Emotion is attachment.
Positive and negative are ideas that have been influenced upon our psyche's, acting as a trap, keeping man in psychological time.
Perhaps everything is nothing, yet we label, because we desire knowledge, but in reality, truth is not fixed.
Perhaps free will does not exist, because man is emotional, based on influenced, emotion based thoughts, rooted in man-made definitions.
I am comfortable saying, I don't know,
yet it's interesting to look into.

Wait one minute... is emotion simply a program we've been inputted with?

lol...maybe??
Or perhaps we're being inputted constantly. Other entities, other dimensions, we acquire thoughts from them, unintentionally & unaware, and rarely does one stop and exercise non-thought, or even question the origin of a thought and whether it is original (vibration) or acquired.

Have you ever told your head to STFU? lol...
The results can be awesome.
Baffling.
Beautiful.


Not long ago, I was talking to my 12 year old daughter about thoughts, emotions..
I asked her if she thought that her thoughts were her own..
Her reply was this..
" I don't know, not always, because sometimes I hear someone talking with an accent, and they're not even female."

Has this happened to you? It has happened to me.
And if left unchecked, those thoughts could become an emotion.
Is there an agenda?
And if so, how productive could emotions be, beyond keeping man stuck in the illusion that psychological time has enabled?

Still just throwing this out there!!

Loving this exchange Sammytray~