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Old 11-28-2008, 11:11 PM   #81
recallone
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Default Re: What is 2012? (or "The Great Harvest")

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The 51% thing comes from Ra and also Hidden Hand. I have measured that this amounts to a calibration of around 330 on Hawkins scale (which is well within 4th density vibration). The majority is still below 200. Most people that will "make it" are already from higher densities. They are Wanderers. But some "humans" will also make it. But the number is low.
So, we're being measured as a means of deciding who is harvestable and who is not? I'm sorry, but this doesn't vibe for me.
It sounds a little too much like the sheep and the goats judgment from the Bible.

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recallone:

No source is beyond anything. No source has "all the answers" (except Source perhaps), I agree totally. But every source or "piece of information" has its place somewhere on Hawkins scale, as does anything vibrating in Creation. There are no "lies" as opposed to Truth. Truth is all there is, it includes everything. But with various levels of distortions according to the Scale. In the below 200 stratum Truth is turned upside/down and inside/out (black=white etc). Above 200 the perspective of Truth is progressivly more and more "restored" until it is set completly right again in the top of the scale.
Can you explain to me what, exactly does the above highlighted text mean? When spirituality double-speak is employed, I've got to ask myself - What is the message they're trying to get across? In this case, I feel like its a case of the emperor's clothes. It's slippery enough to prevent anyone from getting a really solid grasp on it, yet lofty-sounding enough along the yin and yang lines to give it credibility - especially in the minds of people who are looking for the answers to come from someone else. To say that everything fits within this scale that Hawkins developed is presumptuous in nature as it assumes his theory is without its' flaws, and short-sighted as it only takes into consideration one perspective. What's more, I have a hard time resonating with the idea that our spirituality can be measured at all. Feels almost like a contest of sorts.

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It's easy to "discredit" any source by picking out a simple quote from its rightful context. I don't see the Op Terra material as a "threat" to personal responsability. That impression only comes from that quote in isolation which renders it meaningless to discuss it further as it has nothing to do with the totality of their message.
As I said, I don't automatically 'discredit' an offering in its' entirety simply because I've found something that doesn't jive with my current definition of truth. But I'm also not going to allow that one thing of incongruousness to insert itself into my beliefs as fact. In convincing people that a Federation ship will show up to evacuate the chosen ones, there is definitely an element of personal responsibility being excused. It's all been decided before this incarnation sounds too much like predestination to me. What everyone needs to appreciate is the manner in which disinformation is issued. The majority of the information issued from a disinformation source is spot on with what is accepted in these types of forums. However, slight deviations are issued (once the trust of the reader has been established) to misdirect. Anything that labels one group as superior or inferior, in my eyes - is misleading. Please understand that I'm not labeling any of these sources as knowing disinformation agents. I don't know any of them. However, sensitives who channel information don't necessarily know who exactly they're getting their information from. They can relay only what is being told to them, the source of which - again - is reported as it's told. It's like picking up the telephone when it rings...only there's no caller ID. You don't know who you're talking to. There have been enough whistle-blowers shedding light on psy-ops and alien alliances for all of us to know better than to simply trust information that is channeled merely because it is channeled.


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What you do not quote is this:

All those (humans and Wanderers) who incarnated with a goal of making graduation must work on themselves and go through a very difficult process of transmuting lower level vibration into higher level. This is taking personal responsability. What happens in the end (if it is a "lift off" or another kind of transport does not matter).
I don't have any doubts that we are going through a major change and that another JOLT is most certainly on the horizon. In this manner, the text is aligning itself with a commonly accepted truth. However, I don't feel its a matter of You were either chosen, or you weren't - but one of recognizing the illusory nature of this paradigm and distancing yourself from everything that seeks to attach you (and your ego) to it.

The ego wants to hold onto the past and the future, but wants nothing to do with the NOW. The ego is what will cause so many so much pain when that moment of shift is upon us. The ego deals with the false definition of self as determined by the individual's success and possessions. The ego is attached to the means in which it manipulates energy from others through control dramas. For those of you unfamiliar with Control Dramas..

1. “Poor me” control drama: People play the victim and appealing for sympathy. We give energy to this drama by feeling bad for the person and taking the person’s side. It’s the opposite of positive thinking.

2. “Aloof” control drama: It’s like having an air of mystery about oneself and using that “mystery” to get the attention, wonder, curiosity of people around them. It’s a certain snobbishness which seems to say “I am above you all.”

3. “Interrogator” control drama: People ask a lot of questions and pronounce judgements on others. They are critical, self righteous, questioning all the time, sarcastic, sceptical and even undermining.

4. “Intimidator” control drama: People threaten and instill fear to get energy. Violence is often accompanied by this drama.

These control dramas are used by the ego to enforce the Maya, the cosmic delusion. Transcending them is essential in the ascension process. When that moment of clarity presents itself, and there are no more lies to hold up the illusion - there will be a terrific tug-of-war happening within every one of us. For those overly attached to the drama and the ego - they will likely go mad. For those who are aware of it and have been doing the work to rise above it and are expecting this cleansing, will understand what is happening and make the shift. The fourth dimension, I should add - is a temporary new residence. Just as many other alien beings have the ability to navigate various dimensions, so shall we. 5th dimension will become par for the course for those that understand what is to come and are less about the individual as they are about the whole. There is no one person on this earth who has more or less of an advantage. We're all here right now because we all chose to be here right now.

Enforcing the idea that some are meant to be saved and others are meant to die doesn't gel with me. I fully embrace that there is no true death, so pursuing that line is unnecessary, but I refuse to believe that I am subject to some cosmic game of roulette whereas my fate has already been determined. I am a God. So are all of you. We are all one in the same. Conduct yourself accordingly and stop waiting for a God outside of yourself to save you.

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This being said, I understand the sincerity in your post, and it is appreciated as a reminder that we cannot put our trust into anything but ourselves. Thanks a lot!
Thank you for receiving this with the energy that it was intended. I was kind of holding my breath about it a little bit, but ultimately - I decided that I would want a different perspective if I was operating from only one, and so I felt compelled to write. This is all about discovering what we already know - we're merely uncovering the truth. Without attaching to any of it, we're free to discard all of it when clearer, more complete truth presents itself. Look to no one for answers, look within. Just as many of us have come to realize that our old religions weren't necessarily inaccurate so much as they were incomplete, so too must we look upon the offerings of today as having the potential to be tainted, whether knowingly or not. Trust your own vibration to lead you. If something doesn't resonate with you, don't just fall in line with others that are stamping it as TRUE - allow the messiah inside of you to make that determination.

Peace and light
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