The post about being green was not aimed at anyone... if it was at anyone it was at me
I drive the lowest emissions vehicle bar a full electric vehicle or a push bike Honda developed the Insight car with a CO2 rating of 85g/km back in the late 90's and lauched it in 99. With what I'm uncovering the only reason to ge off grid seems to be to ge out of the money mens control. Up until recently I've wanted to build an eco house and get off grid... I am sure I ould but to be honest I do not want to do all that and have it washed away by a tidal wave

in 2012 or sooner.... I think working on yourself and being good is probably better than being 100% green.
Here is the Peak Oil Theory vs. Russian-Ukrainian Modern Theory:
http://www.lewrockwell.com/crispin/crispin11.html