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raulduke · 11-25-2008, 08:59 AM

Thanks Bill, Kerry, and Anchor,

You guys all make alot of sense and seemingly differ only slightly.

I'm fairly young but I'm old enough to have learned first hand that rules (let's say morales) are indeed very helpful if not entirely necessary in order to interact in postive directions.

This is the first forum I've ever been a member of so I'll have to take Anchor's word regarding forum culture, but this how I see it:

I'm a big boy and I can think for myself quite well I believe. I'm very open minded, but i'm tough as well (I played rugby too bill, and american football, and yes rugby is indeed nastier/tougher

) so I know when to stand up to a bully. I'm not at all personally atatched to any of this information (although I do agree w/ some bits more than others of course). And lastly I know when to walk away from a fight, (when a discussion has turned into a fight of course).

I think ideally we could have any behaviour allowed here and the degenerate behaviour would simply fade once that sort of behaviour was ignored.
Of course there will always be those who are looking for a fight rather than a discussion, and people's attatchment to their causes cloud their normal morales, and they may begin to think that the ends justify the means. They just want others to believe what they do. I really think staying unatatched to these specific "truths" can be very helpful in determining the validity of said "truth" (for one's self of course). It's a simple matter of finding a point at which there is no recourse but to agree to disagree, and then try to move forward. Some members seem to have agendas that would like to see generally accepted by all, so they must constantly promote/defend what they advocate and it can lead to degenerate behaviour at times, and that imo is when mods must intervene. I like discussions and I detest fights.

I stand on the sidelines to watch this game play out, and there are too many sides to choose from, so I am my own side whenever I jump in to play, but i root for us all.

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Now on a feedback topic (I was going to start a thread w/ this idea but I think this might work better here):

The real logistical probelm w/ the subscription fee (as I see it) is the initial barrier presented to potential new members. It's been said and I agree that it is less likely that a passer by w/ some (potentially) good info, will get past that initial barrier of $ (even 12$) to post.

An initial free month has been suggested and I think that's a good idea too, but that still bars people who simply can't (or won't) pay to post.

So here's my idea I think it's pretty good:

I can basicly only afford to give two (minimum) subscriptions worth (24$) when the time comes. I have no one in particular that I would like to nominate so I would like to donate the other 12$ to some new potential member.

My idea is that (after the $ switchover) any excess $ donated past the minimum subscription fee for all active members, be divided by twelve and that many free memberships awarded (first come first serve style).

Any donation funds will still go to B and K of course but there could just be a pool of a new potential free mebership for every twelve dollars donated.

I would love it that my money could go to help B and K and help someone get a membership and voice their opinions, ask questions that concern them, or get out some relevant info.

I think this is a really good idea. Anyone else?

Thanks again for all you guys do Bill and Kerry.

And A. thank you for all you have done as a mod. I'm glad to see that you're staying w/ us. I really do appreciate your level head.

RELENTLESS RUTHLESS POSITIVITY

11-25-2008, 08:59 AM	#13
raulduke Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: USA Posts: 454	Re: Avalon forum feedback Thanks Bill, Kerry, and Anchor, You guys all make alot of sense and seemingly differ only slightly. I'm fairly young but I'm old enough to have learned first hand that rules (let's say morales) are indeed very helpful if not entirely necessary in order to interact in postive directions. This is the first forum I've ever been a member of so I'll have to take Anchor's word regarding forum culture, but this how I see it: I'm a big boy and I can think for myself quite well I believe. I'm very open minded, but i'm tough as well (I played rugby too bill, and american football, and yes rugby is indeed nastier/tougher) so I know when to stand up to a bully. I'm not at all personally atatched to any of this information (although I do agree w/ some bits more than others of course). And lastly I know when to walk away from a fight, (when a discussion has turned into a fight of course). I think ideally we could have any behaviour allowed here and the degenerate behaviour would simply fade once that sort of behaviour was ignored. Of course there will always be those who are looking for a fight rather than a discussion, and people's attatchment to their causes cloud their normal morales, and they may begin to think that the ends justify the means. They just want others to believe what they do. I really think staying unatatched to these specific "truths" can be very helpful in determining the validity of said "truth" (for one's self of course). It's a simple matter of finding a point at which there is no recourse but to agree to disagree, and then try to move forward. Some members seem to have agendas that would like to see generally accepted by all, so they must constantly promote/defend what they advocate and it can lead to degenerate behaviour at times, and that imo is when mods must intervene. I like discussions and I detest fights. I stand on the sidelines to watch this game play out, and there are too many sides to choose from, so I am my own side whenever I jump in to play, but i root for us all. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Now on a feedback topic (I was going to start a thread w/ this idea but I think this might work better here): The real logistical probelm w/ the subscription fee (as I see it) is the initial barrier presented to potential new members. It's been said and I agree that it is less likely that a passer by w/ some (potentially) good info, will get past that initial barrier of $ (even 12$) to post. An initial free month has been suggested and I think that's a good idea too, but that still bars people who simply can't (or won't) pay to post. So here's my idea I think it's pretty good: I can basicly only afford to give two (minimum) subscriptions worth (24$) when the time comes. I have no one in particular that I would like to nominate so I would like to donate the other 12$ to some new potential member. My idea is that (after the $ switchover) any excess $ donated past the minimum subscription fee for all active members, be divided by twelve and that many free memberships awarded (first come first serve style). Any donation funds will still go to B and K of course but there could just be a pool of a new potential free mebership for every twelve dollars donated. I would love it that my money could go to help B and K and help someone get a membership and voice their opinions, ask questions that concern them, or get out some relevant info. I think this is a really good idea. Anyone else? Thanks again for all you guys do Bill and Kerry. And A. thank you for all you have done as a mod. I'm glad to see that you're staying w/ us. I really do appreciate your level head. RELENTLESS RUTHLESS POSITIVITY Last edited by Karen; 11-25-2008 at 09:19 AM.