[doodah]

I'm not sure I've quite got the picture of what a free and open forum is like. Is that like godlikeproductions? So we can call Kerry (or anyone we choose) a f**k*ng fat assed bitch if we want to under the banner of free expression? If those words make some people mad, so be it; if they are hurtful, so be it? I'm just asking. This is not my personal style at all, or my preferred way of communicating.

It's not disagreement or radicalism that is at question. Heck, I'm a radical myself. I seek truth. I've gone my own way outside the norm for a long time, in my quiet way, with a lot of people thinking me quite weird, stupid even. So being radical is not the issue. And no one objects to disagreement, but the "manner" of disagreement does seem to be in question. Have I understood the issue correctly? Some of us seem to want boundaries we call manners, respect, etc. but others consider those ideas restrictive. Didn't we lose Henry Deacon because of unrestrained freedom of expression?

Well, just for instance, with all due respect, let me give an example of a change of vibe: I find this whole ****headed discussion absolutely f**k*ng stupid and worthless. It's because "freedom" and "lack of restraint" have become confused that the world is in such a s***ty mess right now. You, Ms. Cassidy, exhibit the moral confusion that keeps rational thinking tied in knots. Get your head on straight, you DUMB ASS!!!!

[Do I believe what I just said in that paragraph? Some of it, yes. Not everything that can be done should be done. Would I EVER have expressed it that way, except for purposes of demonstration here? No. To me, the energy is brutal and very low...but some people like to fight.]

Whatever happens here, I hope Camelot has not been negatively impacted by disagreements on Avalon, and I hope both of these sites continue. And no, I don't think Kerry is a dumb ass, but I disagree with her to some degree.

With only the best wishes to Bill and Kerry ...