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Originally Posted by RubyTuesday
Nobody is being attacked by me though I certainly feel attacked. I find it appalling that you think it's okay that only people who can pay should be able to post unless they resort to asking for charity. I think it's elitist and a sad way to be. It also saddens me that so many were/are unable to see any other way to raise money than to charge people to post thus shutting out ideas from anyone who can't pay and as well as those who refuse to participate in the OLD PARADIGM of pay to play. Step outside your box, the air is fresher out here. Read my posts again. All of them. I'm all for donations and helping B & K. I truly respect what they have done and look forward to the future- but I won't contribute to the elitism energetically. It's bad karma and doesn't feel right. Enlighten yourself a bit, it's a good feeling.
I have read the rules and guidelines. I know that under a paid subscription that I would pay to post information to help others and in return those posts belong to PA as their property. Interesting.
Please don't stick your words in my mouth. You have no idea what I'm thinking or why I'm standing up right now. It is FOR the people who won't have a voice. It's for a forum that would suffer if it went paid because there are MANY people here who refuse to participate. All these cool threads you read with all the great ideas- many of those contributors will be gone and have said so already. Many others will just be lurking, never posting or sharing valuable information here- it will go elsewhere.
I'm not ranting, it's called a discussion. Conflicting ideas does not equal ranting. It's how we grow and learn. Look at post histories before you make empty accusations. You might want to look at the thread that Karen started before jumping on people you know NOTHING about and see that some of us have willingly offered to DONATE more than enough to cover our membership and more. And for future reference, it's more mature to express your opinions without using foul language. It's also smart to get your facts straight before calling someone out.  |
Well said Ruby.. I full agree with you on so many points you make here...
and it's exactly this same low-level/low-tone attitude and downright rudeness being spouted by certain mods (and a few 'in the clique' members) to members on here that prompted my post on PA weeks ago (in repsonse to Astropsyche's thread asking if this forum is "Elitist?").
I took a bit of a bashing for expressing my concerns in that post about Elitism.. and I also apologised publically as I thought possibly I had misunderstood people's intention.. but on reflection.. ... having seen the events and the posts coming from the "controllers" at/of PA (certain mods, and certain members, and also one or two comments from Bill himself in recent posts).. I'm now feeling that my initial gut/heart instincts were spot-on.. sadly.
I didn't have much to contribute except my few personal experiences, I didn't sign up to this forum with any ego or agenda.. just to make come contacts with like minded souls/hearts... life is short.. mine especially so.. and I am incredibly saddened that a group of people with such a level of awareness of what is going on in this world, can behave in such a nasty, dismissive and personal-attack way to others, many of whom are NOT trouble makers, whiners, babies, destructive in intent, or free-loaders... as has been suggested, amongst all the other snipes, swipes and derogatory comments by some mods.
If this is the sort of "vibe" the Ground Crew clearly has.... then I really do feel that whatever transpires on earth in the coming years/2012 etc, even if by some miracle I am still alive on earth by then, I'd be happier to GO than to survive/stick around to find myself in the company of people who behave like this, who think of/treat/speak to others in such appalling fashion.
The 'ordinary' people ARE this forum. They ARE the information. PA mods and 'leaders' might have shown more awareness/foresight to have realised and respected this a little more.
I know times are tough, for LOTS of people.. and they are only going to get tougher.. and tougher.. and money WILL be history in the not too distant future!
I know funds are needed for Proj C work. But the story keeps switching around as to what the funds are for exactly.. and that is confusing people in itself! Now we're being told (this thread!) it's for food and shelter for Bill and Kerry. ? . I feel for you if that is the case. I have been homeless. Lost my home/car/most possessions/personal belongings etc. And I have had NO food on the table.. more than once in my life.. and NOT through any action/inaction of my own either. it is NOT a nice place to be in for anyone. I spent 20 years working long hours in senior/Management roles, internationally. I was generous with my salary in helping others. And had a 'solid gold' nest egg, financial security for life, or so I thought.
I lost everything from a turn of fate that came from nowhere... and it is not pleasant or easy. I know there are others who have experienced the same, or even worse than I did. Man God/Divine Creator surely does work in mysterious ways! But hey.. I've survived. AND learned a lot too about how to survive (legally and honestly) with no money, no bank account, etc. I've NEVER asked anybody for money in my life. Nor taken 'charity', much less 'pity'. Even when I had "nothing" and was scared of what the day ahead would bring, I still gave of myself, of my heart, of my friendship and love/care.
I still have next to nothing, in material terms, but it doesn't stop me giving. To be down to your last cash note and freely donate it or share it with someone TRULY less well off... that is what will help this world ascend/survive... not scrabbling or going against your principles/integrity/values to "get" some more...
Anyway.. there's little point my continuing, especially as I can already sense the sort of reactions/responses that will come forth to my post... sadly.
Peace to all..... Please God .. one day, please God, let there be peace among all.....