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Old 11-20-2008, 03:30 AM   #28
Steven
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Default Re: What is 2012? (or "The Great Harvest")

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Originally Posted by Sanat View Post
Hi Steven. Glad you have joined us. Perhaps what you say is correct. Allthough it would be kind of a bummer to be cought up in a cycle of thousands of years in 3rd density when you in reality have already "graduated" from it. I don't know. I would like to recommend this read to you though:

http://www.operationterra.com/Messages/index.html

If you liked the Handbooks and the Allies of Humanity I think you will very much appreciate this...

I am not sure what you mean when you say Hidden Hand talks about himself and his people and also RA. Please be more specific as I would like to understand. Some truth will always be hidden of course. Often because the full truth would confuse more thant it would help mankind in their limited perspective. I am not sure I get exactly what you mean about Hidden Hand and RA with regards to what you say: "What he said about himself and his people did not sound true and genuine to my humble feelings." Thanks for your thoughts though. Always appreciated!
Thank you Sanat for your answer and for the link, I'll read it soon.

I'll explain a bit further my thoughts. First, about ascension. The Universal Laws of Love, Freewill, Attraction, Deliberate Intention, Allowance, Balance/Harmony are wheels of the Divine Order. They govern the consciousness world (I purposely do not use the word dimension here).

Freedom is never to be granted nor the sphere of influence one may possess. This is why there is a risk in the act of incarnating. We, Humans, incarnate in a body where the act of incarnating provokes a "forgetting" due to our brain limitation. A lot of Knowledge has to be remembered. If one does not remember enough and do not follow what he/she remembers one risk to be caught in this victimhood consciousness until he ascend, and this may take time. Now, many simple things are remembered with ease, the most fundamental are, but often, are not followed. Love is one, Freewill is another. All of us deep down inside Know that it is fundamental, but the challenge is to put them in practice. And we all, without exception, are continuously under the vigilance of the Universal Laws of consciousness.

On the other hand, incarnating here at this moment is important for the whole Universe and for one soul/extension. The experience acquired will grant greater opportunities. Their is a great risk and a great reward if success is accomplished. We are here to assist in the ascension and we will do it with success.

Now about Hidden Hand. Forgive me if I don't use quotes and drastically impose my subjective view. I'm talking with my "feelings" to summarize. You may not see it like me and it's very welcome, I'm just giving you my humble view of it. My point of view is in the fact that there is an Intervention going on Earth by several races of aliens. Hidden Hand overall words give the image of "jailers" of a "prison" full of "prisoners". That they are here to keep the control of the prison but they may provides "tools" to help one to get free. Only with this, I look at it under the Universal Laws and see a pattern of oppressor-victim-savior at hand. Among many very sharp information, this pattern comes out like the last taste of all his posts. That is why I said He might say many truth, but he doesn't about his real purpose. They are here to help us to stay as low as possible, we are resources to them, nothing more.

Great thread Sanat! It help us to become.

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