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laurawalker72 · 11-13-2008, 03:49 PM

Hello,
At the beginning, I had selected around 100 forums. First, I was quite surprised to see how difficult it was to find them but I did it. I kept only around 50 of them. Some forums refused us and finally I was only in 30 forums. I had selected only forums on ufology to respect the ideas of the webmaster and in spite of this some banned me while I had sent only what you read too. It was the case with healthypages.co.uk and a couple of others…
Now I’ve got some very nice and interesting answers or questions that I’m going to offer to everybody this evening. In fact, the idea is that the more you know about this strange case, the better you’ll be able to help solving this strange file. I’ll start then. I’ll either answer inside if it’s long or after the post of someone. I know that for you it’s not classical to mix the answers of different forums, understand that for me the goal is to find answers. I was quite astonished to meet mainly insults and aggression. I don’t protect an idea, I just come to use the knowledge of everybody to solve a problem and I do that inside the style required for that and still, so many have been insulting. I come for answers, I’m not looking for trouble. As an expert on communication, I really worry about the health of our population when I see that. That will be my first technical remark and maybe a first question. Now I start with someone.

psican investigator

Thank you for posting this story. I would love to read more about the details.
It reminded me of a paper or article I came across more than ten years ago.
All I have been able to find out now about the objects are these two exerpts from other articles.

Tony also exhibited a series of colour slides depicting gold cups
and saucers and told us the following story.

Apparently a couple attended a bring and buy market (Tony
declined to tell us where) and bought the items from a strange
oriental looking gentleman for 5 (why is it all I ever find is
broken Commodore 64's and Little Jimmy Osmond tapes!). The couple
told Tony that they felt compelled to buy them even though they
weren't particularly attractive. After enquiring where the
objects originally came from the oriental gentleman told them,
"You wouldn't believe me if I told you."

The couple, we are told, took the cups and saucers home and threw
them in a box in the garage forgetting all about them for five
years. Then, whilst clearing the garage of rubbish they came
across the cups and saucers again and gave them to their child to
play with in order to quiet the child's tantrums. After a while
they noticed that not only was the child calm, he was also
giggling into the cups crying "funny man!".

On closer examination, they found that when the cups are rotated
in bright light, they display, according to Tony Dodd, moving
holographic images depicting the history of the human race!

What's more on closer inspection, images of figures, faces and
silhouettes can be seen "in their thousands". Apparently these
objects are currently being kept in a bank vault and the science
departments of various universities have already had the
opportunity to examine the objects and are baffled (although once
more, Tony declined to reveal exactly who had examined them and
at which universities). Tony also told us that he himself has
examined these objects first hand and seen this phenomena for
himself. Sadly, we were not given the same opportunity, having to
rely instead on rather poor, static slides.

Cups and Saucers

I firstly asked Tony why he should choose to announce such a fundamental
discovery in the International UFO Library, rather than hold a press
conference or similar.

He explained that the artifacts were not his and that they would be the
subject of a forthcoming TV program. The article referred to was simply to
make their existence known to a target audience.

More details on the TV program later.

I then obtained the remarkable story of the artifacts in detail.

The artifacts are owned by 2 "young lads" from Liverpool (I suspect only
one of them actually owns the artifacts) who purchased them from a stall in
a local market. The purchaser(s) had no specific interest in UFOs or
related matters.

I clarified that there are 4 cups and 4 saucers, each of which has the same
properties. They are golden and of a conventional shape and size.

Subsequent details agree with the BBS posting.

I asked Tony how he had come to hear of the artifacts and he replied that
the received an anonymous telephone call in which he was advised that if he
wanted some answers he should telephone a certain number. He did so and
spoke to the person who had purchased the artifacts. On hearing of their
amazing properties, he asked to see them and was invited to do so.

He said that he has seen the cups and saucers at first hand, has witnessed
the holograms which appear when light is shone on them and it was the most
incredible thing he has ever seen.

They seem to contain the entire history of the human race in moving,
holographic images.

Additional information revealed that on realising their incredible
properties the owner(s) contacted the producers of a certain television
program. It is a new series, which I had heard about, and would be an
obvious choice for someone who had no real idea who to contact.

Tony is still in touch with the owner(s) and has been advised that when the
studio lights were shone on one of the artifacts it projected a moving
image of the pyramids being built.

Other extraordinary claims include images of extraterrestrial lifeforms,
the grays (greys), as they are commonly known.

Also, when a light was shone on a plate, at an angle which projects the
image onto a wall, the image continued on the wall for some 2 days
afterwards. When one of the artifacts was taken outdoors in bright
sunlight, 2 images of ancient kings appeared. In the bright sunlight, the
images grew to a height of approximately 6 feet.

It seems that the more powerful the light source, the larger the image.

The artifacts are kept in a vault and only travel under secure conditions.

They have supposedly been examined by scientists and one of the plates has
been cut in an attempt to understand the technology therein. Tony wasn't
sure where they had been examined but thought it was one of the London
museums, possibly the Natural History Museum.

If you examine the plates under a magnifying glass you can see thousands of
minute images.

They have allegedly been dated as being approximately 5000 years old and
contain what appears to be Hebrew writing.

Sotheby's, the auctioneers, have been contacted and have examined the
artifacts.

Tony said he was not keen to handle the artifacts again as he had been
seriously ill for 2 weeks after he had touched them. It may have been a co-
incidence, however, he understandably did not wish to take such a risk.

When the artifacts are left out for some time, black spots begin to appear
on the windows of the room they are in.

Tony then produced 2 photographs of a cup displaying holograms. Somehow, I
just knew I wasn't about to see the most remarkable thing I could imagine.

And I was right.

The photographs were slightly out of focus, consistent with the
photographer (I wish I had asked who it was) having focused too close with
a non macro lens. You could certainly see what appeared to be a light
emanating from the artifact, however the image was unclear. A huge, but not
unexpected, disappointment.

Further Developments

It was imperative to investigate these remarkable claims further and I
traced the television station who were allegedly broadcasting the program
on the artifacts.

I established the name and telephone number of the production company who
were producing the series and having explained that I was simply attempting
to verify information already in the public domain, I received a return
phone call from the program's producer.

I agreed to the producer's request for anonymity and I must also therefore,
at present, make no reference to the name of the production company.

The producer confirmed that the artifacts were indeed to be the subject of
a program in the series.

Understandably, the producer was reticent and was concerned I may be
connected with a rival production company. The producer believes that the
production company has a "scoop" and obviously had no intention of
jeopardising this.

Having explained the background to my investigation and being able to
provide some information which the producer was unaware of, I then obtained
some further insight into the nature of the artifacts.

The producer is a very sceptical person and was not entirely convinced of
the nature of the artifacts. However, the producer confirmed that when a
light is shone on the artifacts, they do produce what appear to be
holographic images. The quality of the images is variable and some people
seem to see more in them than others. The surface which generates the
apparent holograms appears to consist of thousands of minute images and the
production company was attempting to use cameras with a much higher
resolution, to improve the broadcast quality of the projections.

I asked if the producer would confirm that the artifacts could display
images onto a wall and whilst the producer was reluctant to discuss this
aspect and suggested that I wait until the program was broadcast, it was
implied that this may be the case. It certainly was not denied.

A further claim which was not denied was the report of the television crew
witnessing images showing the pyramids being built. The producer would only
comment that some people believed they had seen certain things.

No doubt all will be revealed in due course but the important point was
being able to establish that these artifacts do exist, whatever they may
turn out to be.

I mentioned Tony Dodd's concern that handling these artifacts had preceded
a serious illness. I was advised that neither the producer nor any of the
production company staff has suffered any noticable ill effects.

As the exact date of the program featuring the artifacts has not yet been
determined, I will post details of the exact date and time when this is
known. It should be during October. If the program is scheduled to be
broadcast outwith the U.K., I will also let you know.
_________________
Ian "NRTS" Harper

Director of UFOlogical studies for Parareseachers of Ontario
www.pararesearchers.org

Hello and thank you very much for such a nice and precise answer. Unfortunately if we know about some side effects we don’t know so much about the object itself. Still we have a picture, which is very clear, available for anyone one who wishes to see it. It looks more like a simple strange disk. Still, from what we know I can find some similarities, mainly about the recording of humanity’s evolution. We know for sure that with this object the man who was coming to Melanie’s house could see the past in great detail. We don’t know how. We know for sure that it was one of his reasons to come to her house and stay with the disk a very long time, very often. We also know that the man who found this disk was more or less slightly burnt on the chin. After the disc was gone, as I already explained, Melanie’s health declined. She also explained that the man who used to come was the same one that she met before and at that time he was blind. Afterwards, he was still blind but could move with extreme ease and precision, in spite of this evolution he told Melanie that he was still blind but could see “differently”. The case that you presented is maybe linked. It would be very interesting to see the evolution of your file and of ours. The disk was found in Ireland. Let me know about the evolution and let me know if any further information you can read on my post can help you precise the link if there’s one.
Thank you very much indeed.
Laura

THABOY : first of all, welcome Laura, it's a pleasure to meet.
This is a fascinating story, I don't have any more information, but I'd like to ask you what army this was, the American, Britain, Irish or maybe even another one? That disk may be the evidence for extraterrestials, so if I might be able to help with something (that would suprise me because I'm not a specialized scientist and not even totaly grown up) but you know where to find me. And one more thing: do you know where the disk, or in what country it has been found?
And for the dutch friends among us:
als ik iets moet vertalen zeggen jullie het maar

FRANK MAAKT EEN PAK BIJ DE TAFEL
Hello and thank you for your nice answer. Well.. you must understand that on some aspects even if we aren’t directly concerned we are careful. That’s why we prefer hiding the origin of the army who attacked this man, still I can tell you that it was in Europe. Concerning the country of the discovery as I said above it was in Ireland. As for the help, thank you for spreading this story as much as possible so that finally someone somewhere knows something about this and allow us to meet the owners of this disk and do some serious tests.
All the best, sorry but my dutch is very limited.

...I've Edited your original Topic/Theme/Page, to break it up. It is, as you say quite lenghty. But it's something quite interesting, & I'd hope members would chime in here with their curiosities/opinions/comments/etc.
Can you say/do you know...WHERE in Ireland this artefact was found originally? Would help us searching for clues at the right places?
This intrigue could tie in to MANY of our own explorations and experiences. So, we thank you for your efforts to 'Get the message out'...and to gather interest in your research. Best of luck from ALL of us here.
Please keep us 'updated' on finds, and as SETH says...developments. We'd also ask that your fellow researchers/team feel free to submit their independent thoughts/comments on 'what this means' in general...and of course any specifics which might expand our appreciation of your Topic.
All best regards/'Sweeps' Fox

hello, very nice welcomes and very good questions. As I said above I don’t have all the information, still Melanie wrote that the artefact was found in the countryside in an Irish stone circle. At the origin, Melanie understood that the stone circle was found with a logic that she didn’t follow but she had clearly understood that the place to dig was in compared to where the eye of the white horse was compared to stonehenge. I hope I make myself understood. They made calculations between the size of the stone circle and stonehenge to calculate in comparison where the eye of the white horse was in Ireland. Now we don’t know which stone circle they have been working from. What we know to is that they left a place which was full of other things. They wanted to go back after but they never did. Now, to be honest all this has been known via the explanations of Melanie, so, she might be wrong. I’m sorry, until now, that’s all we have.
All the best and thank you very much.
Laura.

...You might start working with this 'FORUM' by answering some of the questions (Where was this artefact found in Ireland?) asked of you the first day. Members here don't want 'SKETCHY' material. MOST of us have had our own very personal/insightful 1st hand experiences/observations/& encounters with ET's and their crafts. You may want to be more 'Open' regarding this 'Small scientific team'. Have any of you had any 'Close Encounters'...to begin with?

We don't mind co-operating in a stubstancial/revealing/investigative Project, but we sure as Hell don't want to be used/pandered to/...condescended to.

We are also not here...to help you write your book. You may want to break up your long paragraphs here, in your writing on the Forum, as demonstration that you're able to 'Write' and communicate.

I'll await your next 'session' with us...and see if you're able to better define your purpose, and to get in the spirit of what WE do here. This is all 'in the way' of establishing a better grounding/baseline/& mutual understanding.

A strick Scientific/Academia approach doesn't work that well with folks who've had a wealth of excitement/emotional trauma/and multiple experiences with UFO's/Et'S. Just helping to set you straight about a certain necessary sensitivity but also Humor...as 'The Freeing Tool'. Thanks/'Sweeps'

As I said before I’m quite surprised of so much aggression, but it’s your right, this forum is yours and you do whatever you want. That is called power. Enjoy it. Maybe you have understood that I’m working in many different forums and countries because I don’t know where exactly to look for. So, I go a little bit everywhere at the same time to succeed. There’s nothing aggressive or vindictive in that. I’ll always be late to answer, because I cannot be everywhere at the same time. Unless of course, I start to concentrate more on one special forum. Right now, you must understand that it is not the case. I threw my net everywhere at the same time.
I’m sorry that we don’t have any first-hand experience of aliens or ufos. Not a long time before Melanie’s death, none of us believed in anything non-scientific. Now, facing the file we have, we are trying to find the answers somewhere else, but once more, I’m encountering a population that is so aggressive, so that means so much in pain, I don’t know what will be possible to achieve . When I say that, it’s not aggressive. I think that this world of ufology is so troubled that the aggression is the answer wanted by those who aggress you. Little personal question to all of you who are so aggressive, aren’t you a little bit manipulated by your opponents?
Thank you for your help.
Laura.

Hi,

This disk sounds a bit like the 'yellow disk' described by Dan Burisch.

Good luck
Peace
Iain

Hi, very interesting! Could you tell me more about this man, I have never heard of him before. This could be of some help.
Thank you.
Laura.

NEW ANSWER FROM THABOY :
So if I understood this all good, The people "owning" the artefact have spread out information all over the world and hopefully also on the internet? Or do I have to make a word with my English teacher?
Hello LauraWalker,

first i have to excuse me for my bad english, i hope you can understand what iám about to write. So, i got a question for you and i really hope that you answer it in the next days. How does the box look like? Maybe you can post a picture of it so that we can see more details about that mystery box!? And you said that there is a disc within the box. Do you know some signs or anything else of the disc?

And my last question is, how can we help you and of corse your team to find these things?

It would be great if you respone my questions soon.
With kind regards,

Scythe

It’s a pleasure to answer you. I never said that the box was mysterious. It was a safety box; completely human. I said that we have pictures of the disk itself if you wish to. Now to help us, I’m using the internet to try meeting someone who knows something or someone. My colleagues don’t agree with me. They find my system too classical but one never knows. It could be a way to find something to start more serious investigations.
Thank you for your kindness.
Laura.

* Hm i would like to see this pictures from this Disc and all what u have.

Yes, no problem, I’ll look after that and I’ll send them to you. Soon coming.

First i would ask you to write a New text ... i can't read anything and get a headache from it
Hmm is it me or do i smell trolls ?

Well it is an interesting STORY but nothing more for me now...

Thank you anyway. Laura.

I gotta wait for evidence....
Let me know if you need anything I can offer.
* Hi Laura
I hope you don't mind me translating your text in German. It's for a better understanding to those who don't understand much English. Thank you for your comprehension. Your story is indeed very interesting. And some more Evidence like pictures would be great.

No problem for translation, it’s even very kind of you. I’ll send pictures to you as well and anything else you need. It’s fair, I’m asking for everybody’s help, no problem to give a maximum.
Laura.

* Hello Laura and welcome to the Paraportal!
This Story is very interesting, and like everyone else here i would be very pleased when you could give us more information like pictures and stuff. And i have a question about the testament of andreas mother: Did she write something about this disc in her testament? I know she couldnt write it directly but maybe with another description or so
I would be glad to hear new information from you

Sincerely yours, Chupa

hello,
thank you, yes, maybe I didn’t make myself understood clearly on this point. Melanie didn’t dare speaking about this story when she was alive, so she wrote everything down. That’s how we know so much, at the same time, that’s why we know so little and are stuck today.
Laura.

hello laura,

your search is over. i have the disk.

best regards

acceptor
it’s not mine, but I’d love to do some experiment on it so if you could lend it to me… you know what? Happily, in science we aren’t like you in ufology, otherwise, we would still be using stones.
Best regards.
Laura.

I’m sorry for everybody if I give a general answer, but understand that like that I let everybody know about everything and at the same time I’m not keen on the internet. I’m just trying to use it in a special way. I must say that with the many insults I received, I doubt now about the efficiency of the web. Last year, I was in England to go and see some Crop Circles. I expected to see many people there but I was astonished to see nearly no one. Is it possible that mankind has lost any kind of interest in everything but the stock market? I knew that before but to that point… my God, I’m really scared.
Hoping that my way to work doesn’t bother you too much. There’s an English proverb that says “two heads are better than one” so, I thought “about 1 or 2 million”, but maybe I was wrong. I don’t know.
We’ll see…
All the best to all of you all over Europe.
Laura.

11-13-2008, 03:49 PM	#15
laurawalker72 Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 20	Re: Investigation into an alien artefact Hello, At the beginning, I had selected around 100 forums. First, I was quite surprised to see how difficult it was to find them but I did it. I kept only around 50 of them. Some forums refused us and finally I was only in 30 forums. I had selected only forums on ufology to respect the ideas of the webmaster and in spite of this some banned me while I had sent only what you read too. It was the case with healthypages.co.uk and a couple of others… Now I’ve got some very nice and interesting answers or questions that I’m going to offer to everybody this evening. In fact, the idea is that the more you know about this strange case, the better you’ll be able to help solving this strange file. I’ll start then. I’ll either answer inside if it’s long or after the post of someone. I know that for you it’s not classical to mix the answers of different forums, understand that for me the goal is to find answers. I was quite astonished to meet mainly insults and aggression. I don’t protect an idea, I just come to use the knowledge of everybody to solve a problem and I do that inside the style required for that and still, so many have been insulting. I come for answers, I’m not looking for trouble. As an expert on communication, I really worry about the health of our population when I see that. That will be my first technical remark and maybe a first question. Now I start with someone. psican investigator Thank you for posting this story. I would love to read more about the details. It reminded me of a paper or article I came across more than ten years ago. All I have been able to find out now about the objects are these two exerpts from other articles. Tony also exhibited a series of colour slides depicting gold cups and saucers and told us the following story. Apparently a couple attended a bring and buy market (Tony declined to tell us where) and bought the items from a strange oriental looking gentleman for 5 (why is it all I ever find is broken Commodore 64's and Little Jimmy Osmond tapes!). The couple told Tony that they felt compelled to buy them even though they weren't particularly attractive. After enquiring where the objects originally came from the oriental gentleman told them, "You wouldn't believe me if I told you." The couple, we are told, took the cups and saucers home and threw them in a box in the garage forgetting all about them for five years. Then, whilst clearing the garage of rubbish they came across the cups and saucers again and gave them to their child to play with in order to quiet the child's tantrums. After a while they noticed that not only was the child calm, he was also giggling into the cups crying "funny man!". On closer examination, they found that when the cups are rotated in bright light, they display, according to Tony Dodd, moving holographic images depicting the history of the human race! What's more on closer inspection, images of figures, faces and silhouettes can be seen "in their thousands". Apparently these objects are currently being kept in a bank vault and the science departments of various universities have already had the opportunity to examine the objects and are baffled (although once more, Tony declined to reveal exactly who had examined them and at which universities). Tony also told us that he himself has examined these objects first hand and seen this phenomena for himself. Sadly, we were not given the same opportunity, having to rely instead on rather poor, static slides. Cups and Saucers I firstly asked Tony why he should choose to announce such a fundamental discovery in the International UFO Library, rather than hold a press conference or similar. He explained that the artifacts were not his and that they would be the subject of a forthcoming TV program. The article referred to was simply to make their existence known to a target audience. More details on the TV program later. I then obtained the remarkable story of the artifacts in detail. The artifacts are owned by 2 "young lads" from Liverpool (I suspect only one of them actually owns the artifacts) who purchased them from a stall in a local market. The purchaser(s) had no specific interest in UFOs or related matters. I clarified that there are 4 cups and 4 saucers, each of which has the same properties. They are golden and of a conventional shape and size. Subsequent details agree with the BBS posting. I asked Tony how he had come to hear of the artifacts and he replied that the received an anonymous telephone call in which he was advised that if he wanted some answers he should telephone a certain number. He did so and spoke to the person who had purchased the artifacts. On hearing of their amazing properties, he asked to see them and was invited to do so. He said that he has seen the cups and saucers at first hand, has witnessed the holograms which appear when light is shone on them and it was the most incredible thing he has ever seen. They seem to contain the entire history of the human race in moving, holographic images. Additional information revealed that on realising their incredible properties the owner(s) contacted the producers of a certain television program. It is a new series, which I had heard about, and would be an obvious choice for someone who had no real idea who to contact. Tony is still in touch with the owner(s) and has been advised that when the studio lights were shone on one of the artifacts it projected a moving image of the pyramids being built. Other extraordinary claims include images of extraterrestrial lifeforms, the grays (greys), as they are commonly known. Also, when a light was shone on a plate, at an angle which projects the image onto a wall, the image continued on the wall for some 2 days afterwards. When one of the artifacts was taken outdoors in bright sunlight, 2 images of ancient kings appeared. In the bright sunlight, the images grew to a height of approximately 6 feet. It seems that the more powerful the light source, the larger the image. The artifacts are kept in a vault and only travel under secure conditions. They have supposedly been examined by scientists and one of the plates has been cut in an attempt to understand the technology therein. Tony wasn't sure where they had been examined but thought it was one of the London museums, possibly the Natural History Museum. If you examine the plates under a magnifying glass you can see thousands of minute images. They have allegedly been dated as being approximately 5000 years old and contain what appears to be Hebrew writing. Sotheby's, the auctioneers, have been contacted and have examined the artifacts. Tony said he was not keen to handle the artifacts again as he had been seriously ill for 2 weeks after he had touched them. It may have been a co- incidence, however, he understandably did not wish to take such a risk. When the artifacts are left out for some time, black spots begin to appear on the windows of the room they are in. Tony then produced 2 photographs of a cup displaying holograms. Somehow, I just knew I wasn't about to see the most remarkable thing I could imagine. And I was right. The photographs were slightly out of focus, consistent with the photographer (I wish I had asked who it was) having focused too close with a non macro lens. You could certainly see what appeared to be a light emanating from the artifact, however the image was unclear. A huge, but not unexpected, disappointment. Further Developments It was imperative to investigate these remarkable claims further and I traced the television station who were allegedly broadcasting the program on the artifacts. I established the name and telephone number of the production company who were producing the series and having explained that I was simply attempting to verify information already in the public domain, I received a return phone call from the program's producer. I agreed to the producer's request for anonymity and I must also therefore, at present, make no reference to the name of the production company. The producer confirmed that the artifacts were indeed to be the subject of a program in the series. Understandably, the producer was reticent and was concerned I may be connected with a rival production company. The producer believes that the production company has a "scoop" and obviously had no intention of jeopardising this. Having explained the background to my investigation and being able to provide some information which the producer was unaware of, I then obtained some further insight into the nature of the artifacts. The producer is a very sceptical person and was not entirely convinced of the nature of the artifacts. However, the producer confirmed that when a light is shone on the artifacts, they do produce what appear to be holographic images. The quality of the images is variable and some people seem to see more in them than others. The surface which generates the apparent holograms appears to consist of thousands of minute images and the production company was attempting to use cameras with a much higher resolution, to improve the broadcast quality of the projections. I asked if the producer would confirm that the artifacts could display images onto a wall and whilst the producer was reluctant to discuss this aspect and suggested that I wait until the program was broadcast, it was implied that this may be the case. It certainly was not denied. A further claim which was not denied was the report of the television crew witnessing images showing the pyramids being built. The producer would only comment that some people believed they had seen certain things. No doubt all will be revealed in due course but the important point was being able to establish that these artifacts do exist, whatever they may turn out to be. I mentioned Tony Dodd's concern that handling these artifacts had preceded a serious illness. I was advised that neither the producer nor any of the production company staff has suffered any noticable ill effects. As the exact date of the program featuring the artifacts has not yet been determined, I will post details of the exact date and time when this is known. It should be during October. If the program is scheduled to be broadcast outwith the U.K., I will also let you know. _________________ Ian "NRTS" Harper Director of UFOlogical studies for Parareseachers of Ontario www.pararesearchers.org Hello and thank you very much for such a nice and precise answer. Unfortunately if we know about some side effects we don’t know so much about the object itself. Still we have a picture, which is very clear, available for anyone one who wishes to see it. It looks more like a simple strange disk. Still, from what we know I can find some similarities, mainly about the recording of humanity’s evolution. We know for sure that with this object the man who was coming to Melanie’s house could see the past in great detail. We don’t know how. We know for sure that it was one of his reasons to come to her house and stay with the disk a very long time, very often. We also know that the man who found this disk was more or less slightly burnt on the chin. After the disc was gone, as I already explained, Melanie’s health declined. She also explained that the man who used to come was the same one that she met before and at that time he was blind. Afterwards, he was still blind but could move with extreme ease and precision, in spite of this evolution he told Melanie that he was still blind but could see “differently”. The case that you presented is maybe linked. It would be very interesting to see the evolution of your file and of ours. The disk was found in Ireland. Let me know about the evolution and let me know if any further information you can read on my post can help you precise the link if there’s one. Thank you very much indeed. Laura THABOY : first of all, welcome Laura, it's a pleasure to meet. This is a fascinating story, I don't have any more information, but I'd like to ask you what army this was, the American, Britain, Irish or maybe even another one? That disk may be the evidence for extraterrestials, so if I might be able to help with something (that would suprise me because I'm not a specialized scientist and not even totaly grown up) but you know where to find me. And one more thing: do you know where the disk, or in what country it has been found? And for the dutch friends among us: als ik iets moet vertalen zeggen jullie het maar FRANK MAAKT EEN PAK BIJ DE TAFEL Hello and thank you for your nice answer. Well.. you must understand that on some aspects even if we aren’t directly concerned we are careful. That’s why we prefer hiding the origin of the army who attacked this man, still I can tell you that it was in Europe. Concerning the country of the discovery as I said above it was in Ireland. As for the help, thank you for spreading this story as much as possible so that finally someone somewhere knows something about this and allow us to meet the owners of this disk and do some serious tests. All the best, sorry but my dutch is very limited. ...I've Edited your original Topic/Theme/Page, to break it up. It is, as you say quite lenghty. But it's something quite interesting, & I'd hope members would chime in here with their curiosities/opinions/comments/etc. Can you say/do you know...WHERE in Ireland this artefact was found originally? Would help us searching for clues at the right places? This intrigue could tie in to MANY of our own explorations and experiences. So, we thank you for your efforts to 'Get the message out'...and to gather interest in your research. Best of luck from ALL of us here. Please keep us 'updated' on finds, and as SETH says...developments. We'd also ask that your fellow researchers/team feel free to submit their independent thoughts/comments on 'what this means' in general...and of course any specifics which might expand our appreciation of your Topic. All best regards/'Sweeps' Fox hello, very nice welcomes and very good questions. As I said above I don’t have all the information, still Melanie wrote that the artefact was found in the countryside in an Irish stone circle. At the origin, Melanie understood that the stone circle was found with a logic that she didn’t follow but she had clearly understood that the place to dig was in compared to where the eye of the white horse was compared to stonehenge. I hope I make myself understood. They made calculations between the size of the stone circle and stonehenge to calculate in comparison where the eye of the white horse was in Ireland. Now we don’t know which stone circle they have been working from. What we know to is that they left a place which was full of other things. They wanted to go back after but they never did. Now, to be honest all this has been known via the explanations of Melanie, so, she might be wrong. I’m sorry, until now, that’s all we have. All the best and thank you very much. Laura. ...You might start working with this 'FORUM' by answering some of the questions (Where was this artefact found in Ireland?) asked of you the first day. Members here don't want 'SKETCHY' material. MOST of us have had our own very personal/insightful 1st hand experiences/observations/& encounters with ET's and their crafts. You may want to be more 'Open' regarding this 'Small scientific team'. Have any of you had any 'Close Encounters'...to begin with? We don't mind co-operating in a stubstancial/revealing/investigative Project, but we sure as Hell don't want to be used/pandered to/...condescended to. We are also not here...to help you write your book. You may want to break up your long paragraphs here, in your writing on the Forum, as demonstration that you're able to 'Write' and communicate. I'll await your next 'session' with us...and see if you're able to better define your purpose, and to get in the spirit of what WE do here. This is all 'in the way' of establishing a better grounding/baseline/& mutual understanding. A strick Scientific/Academia approach doesn't work that well with folks who've had a wealth of excitement/emotional trauma/and multiple experiences with UFO's/Et'S. Just helping to set you straight about a certain necessary sensitivity but also Humor...as 'The Freeing Tool'. Thanks/'Sweeps' As I said before I’m quite surprised of so much aggression, but it’s your right, this forum is yours and you do whatever you want. That is called power. Enjoy it. Maybe you have understood that I’m working in many different forums and countries because I don’t know where exactly to look for. So, I go a little bit everywhere at the same time to succeed. There’s nothing aggressive or vindictive in that. I’ll always be late to answer, because I cannot be everywhere at the same time. Unless of course, I start to concentrate more on one special forum. Right now, you must understand that it is not the case. I threw my net everywhere at the same time. I’m sorry that we don’t have any first-hand experience of aliens or ufos. Not a long time before Melanie’s death, none of us believed in anything non-scientific. Now, facing the file we have, we are trying to find the answers somewhere else, but once more, I’m encountering a population that is so aggressive, so that means so much in pain, I don’t know what will be possible to achieve . When I say that, it’s not aggressive. I think that this world of ufology is so troubled that the aggression is the answer wanted by those who aggress you. Little personal question to all of you who are so aggressive, aren’t you a little bit manipulated by your opponents? Thank you for your help. Laura. Hi, This disk sounds a bit like the 'yellow disk' described by Dan Burisch. Good luck Peace Iain Hi, very interesting! Could you tell me more about this man, I have never heard of him before. This could be of some help. Thank you. Laura. NEW ANSWER FROM THABOY : So if I understood this all good, The people "owning" the artefact have spread out information all over the world and hopefully also on the internet? Or do I have to make a word with my English teacher? Hello LauraWalker, first i have to excuse me for my bad english, i hope you can understand what iám about to write. So, i got a question for you and i really hope that you answer it in the next days. How does the box look like? Maybe you can post a picture of it so that we can see more details about that mystery box!? And you said that there is a disc within the box. Do you know some signs or anything else of the disc? And my last question is, how can we help you and of corse your team to find these things? It would be great if you respone my questions soon. With kind regards, Scythe It’s a pleasure to answer you. I never said that the box was mysterious. It was a safety box; completely human. I said that we have pictures of the disk itself if you wish to. Now to help us, I’m using the internet to try meeting someone who knows something or someone. My colleagues don’t agree with me. They find my system too classical but one never knows. It could be a way to find something to start more serious investigations. Thank you for your kindness. Laura. * Hm i would like to see this pictures from this Disc and all what u have. Yes, no problem, I’ll look after that and I’ll send them to you. Soon coming. First i would ask you to write a New text ... i can't read anything and get a headache from it Hmm is it me or do i smell trolls ? Well it is an interesting STORY but nothing more for me now... Thank you anyway. Laura. I gotta wait for evidence.... Let me know if you need anything I can offer. * Hi Laura I hope you don't mind me translating your text in German. It's for a better understanding to those who don't understand much English. Thank you for your comprehension. Your story is indeed very interesting. And some more Evidence like pictures would be great. No problem for translation, it’s even very kind of you. I’ll send pictures to you as well and anything else you need. It’s fair, I’m asking for everybody’s help, no problem to give a maximum. Laura. * Hello Laura and welcome to the Paraportal! This Story is very interesting, and like everyone else here i would be very pleased when you could give us more information like pictures and stuff. And i have a question about the testament of andreas mother: Did she write something about this disc in her testament? I know she couldnt write it directly but maybe with another description or so I would be glad to hear new information from you Sincerely yours, Chupa hello, thank you, yes, maybe I didn’t make myself understood clearly on this point. Melanie didn’t dare speaking about this story when she was alive, so she wrote everything down. That’s how we know so much, at the same time, that’s why we know so little and are stuck today. Laura. hello laura, your search is over. i have the disk. best regards acceptor it’s not mine, but I’d love to do some experiment on it so if you could lend it to me… you know what? Happily, in science we aren’t like you in ufology, otherwise, we would still be using stones. Best regards. Laura. I’m sorry for everybody if I give a general answer, but understand that like that I let everybody know about everything and at the same time I’m not keen on the internet. I’m just trying to use it in a special way. I must say that with the many insults I received, I doubt now about the efficiency of the web. Last year, I was in England to go and see some Crop Circles. I expected to see many people there but I was astonished to see nearly no one. Is it possible that mankind has lost any kind of interest in everything but the stock market? I knew that before but to that point… my God, I’m really scared. Hoping that my way to work doesn’t bother you too much. There’s an English proverb that says “two heads are better than one” so, I thought “about 1 or 2 million”, but maybe I was wrong. I don’t know. We’ll see… All the best to all of you all over Europe. Laura.