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Originally Posted by martian31v
hi mur. i have read all of your posts on this issue, both at avolon and open minds. i think you are confused. as stated above this is NOT a two wrongs makes a right case. (i.e if you punch me in the face, i steal your pussy cat.) this is a human rights issue. all humans have an equal right to existential information. gary was exercising that right. Therfore gary's actions were justified.
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I believe you are mistaken....Govts are not for the rights of the people...they are about control.
There will always be information that is kept from public view, some of it for our own good.
Most will disagree with the above...hell I would have disagreed with it not too long ago.
But just where does one draw the line fighting evil with evil.
Slippery slope where the ends justify the means.
Your theory would seem to imply that it is okay to steal from the rich to give to the poor?
Who defines who is rich.
The UFO community should not sell its soul, become what they despise in the name of disclosure.
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Originally Posted by martian31v
this case is akin to the days when slavery was legal. if a slave escaped, then under the the law of that time he would be found guilty of committing a crime. likewise, gary was escaping from the mental/existential slavery being imposed on him by the u.s government. we are the existential slaves. the u.s government is the existential slave owner. gary is the slave who has escaped and been caught. will the slaves unite on gary's behalf??? or will the slaves bend over to the will of their master??? in seeking the truth of OUR reality, gary has done nothing wrong. history will see gary as a hero. wanna bet  |
Nice try...I applaud the effort to try to tie this to slavery.
To make your case here, you would have to admit that all forms of govt are wrong, any govt, any rule imposes slavery.
The difference between those that opposed slavery and Gary is that the abolitionist felt so strongly about what they were doing was right, they stood and were counted by serving jail time, and even facing death.
Gary has chickened out for his cause.
Gary has no proof of what he saw....I maintain he saw nothing...the biggest secret in the history of the world was not, has not ever been hooked up to the internet.
Truly if he had actually seen anything, you would have never had heard his name.
He may have been looking for proof I don't doubt.
But since he got caught, he has done nothing but use the ufo community because he does not want to face the music.
And the ufo community is using Gary as well, as way to force disclosure.
As near as I can tell, in my opinion, Gary is a loser for not pleading, and the ufo community is a loser for using a loser to promote it's agenda.
There are real heroes in the ufo community, Gary is self imposed pawn.
He is worthy of pity, and that is about it.
PS I have no problem with him serving his time in Britain, if any.