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Originally Posted by Anticomuna

Yes, another funny thing is that the aliens all use recycled ancient Egyptian or eastern names. Sfath, Semjase, Quetzal, etc. It sounds like a greatest hits of ancient names.

I think he didn't fake the photos. I think those were Nazis pretending to be aliens. Just check how they talk about Hitler. Basically they say Hitler was good person, a "genius", who was attracted to the dark forces by the Thule society. WTF!

Originally Posted by 371

I think he HAS had contacts with ETs. Whether or not he was/is given false information I don't know, but I think it's a safe bet to say that he's caught what John Lear calls "UFO Disease".

Originally Posted by Joseph

This is also how I feel but I believe that the "cult" that has sprung up around Billy has in many instances been responsible for the muddying of the waters in this case.

Originally Posted by NXS

It is my belief that the Billy Meier case, is indeed, very true. That being said, I do believe there is quite a bit of dis/mis-information surrounding the details, as is with any valid extra-terrestrial claim.... but at the heart of the story, the facts remain.... and that's all that matters.

Originally Posted by trainedobserver

He has some remarkable photographs. However, the "wedding cake" photo is an apparent fake. There are a couple of good write-ups on the problems with that picture that can't be ignored. Sadly ... the "wedding cake UFO" is a real problem.

Originally Posted by astronaute

Lets stay real, all his videos are faked, he made those "ET crafts", they are attached to a string. Just observe how the wind make it move laterally

Watch those videos and tell me you still think it's not fake :

http://www.steelmarkonline.com/video_and_8mm.htm

cheers

Originally Posted by trainedobserver

I agree, the motion of the craft says "Suspended from a string." Much like the motion of all "UFO Fleet" videos which tell us they are "balloons".

Originally Posted by franciejones

I have watched many of his interviews
Bought the DVD
What threw me was when he said that the aliens have 4 wives.....sounds like people to me. If they were advanced and so concerned about population control why in the world would they need 4 wives? Plus the pictures of those "ray guns" were just ridiculous. lol
He could be telling the truth, but if so, I am certain some of his own "spin" or additions to the truth were thrown in the mix. Just my opinion of course though.

Originally Posted by efields

As one who spent time reading the large format Gennisis Books and having read the The Ten Bids and much of his material.. This has to be the mother of all UFO cases. I think 90% of the info is spot on. Some of the info Billy might have colored. or he may have been suplied erroneous info from his contacts..WHATEVER, WHEN YOU READ THE SCALE OF THE INFO, AS WITH THE LAW OF ONE, YOU GET A HIT THAT THIS IS NOT MADE UP BOLDERDASH but most definitely off world information IMHO. And my God those Photos...

Originally Posted by Midnight Oil

Well some realtime photographer friends of mine(proffesional photographers working on photography only) were in the region couple of years back, they thought they should pay his place a visit since they were doing some magazine shooting sessions in Switz. Anyways to make it short, they said they were stunned when they saw the bigger pictures of the UFOs hanging on the walls of the facility. They said it was nearly impossible to fake them with the tecnho available at the time they were taken. They were absolutely speechleess and had no doubt about their authenticity. These people are pro photographers... I'll have to take their word for it since I have no funds to make the visit to the place myself.(about the pics ofcourse, not the written material. The written material speaks for itself for me)

Like I said before, his story and pictures has been colored by ,who the heck knows by whom, so heavily to the point that whole case looks hoax to many people. Thats why Billy is so ****** and gives no more interviews, but I hope PC nails it.

Originally Posted by Rebel4Life

do you have proof of this or is this just your opinion? I for one have done my research and in my opinion there is other life forms out there and we have been manipulated all throughout history...this cycle shall never break until pple will realize what is going on.

Originally Posted by Zelong

What was a farmer in Switzerland doing with these high quality movie cameras and still cameras, it looks to me it was his Hobby and after experimenting with negatives and stuff,look what I made.

Zelong.

Originally Posted by JohnWdoe

What made me believe it was a hoax was finding out about how the Nazis built UFO's, how easy would it be for them to fly to his place? quite.

He says he was contacted by Sfath (sp?) as a child and that to me must have been big for him, was it really people from our solar system or beyond? you decide... but remember we could easily do it!

What it comes down to is excepting our truths and realizing if the evidence out weighs the story we must step down with humility, sadly many of the ufo cults (the real ones) have invested so much time into human lore.

The reality is we are not alone but jeeze it was kind of sad to pull the veil away and see more humans standing about, would i be the bad one to simply not believe and forget about it? or is it your problem you believe?? simply put my beliefs are not damaging to me if aliens came and it was faked id be okay but ****** off the masses were tricked.

This is the same feeling i get with Billy he says the visitors are Pleiadians but if we had the funding and technology we ALL could easily fake it.

Why do they fake it? Psyops are used to warm us into the concept of other life forms so i would be very keen on who and what they tell you, when the day comes you will know... we are not alone.

Originally Posted by goody8504

there is no doubt in my mind that billy has been in contact with people since he was a young boy. however, i also know that just because these people exist doesn't mean all if the information they give billy is true. it could be they have their own agenda, but i won't speculate.

Originally Posted by J_rod7

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The 'Case' of the Billy Eduard Albert Meier Contacts IS Incontrovertibly Genuine, the most well Documented, and Studied of all Known.

Other 'Cases' which are also Genuine, such as the Crashes at Roswell, N.M., the Betty and Barney Hill Contact in N.H., and a small handful of Others, Pale in comparison. They have produced nowhere NEAR the Evidence, the HUGE Volumes of InterActive Discussions between Billy and the ETs - of which Billy has produced Copious recorded Notes. The Spiritual Teachings given to Us from the Pleiades (Who call themselves Plejarens), Will Literally take a LifeTime to Learn.

Do You Wonder WHY the Black-Ops People of so Many Governments have tried EVERY Dis-Information Trick in the Book, attempting to cast Doubt on this Case? It is Precisely because those same governments and their Agents KNOW the Billy Meier 'Case' IS TRUE, REAL, and GENUINE CONTACT

To Examine for Yourself, click onto the website at:
http://www.theyfly.com/

There, You will find an ABUNDANCE of Contact Notes, Bulletins, Spiritual Teachings of Creation, and much More. As was said by Member RaKaR, it will a LOT more than 5-Minutes to properly Assimilate the Knowledge You will find at this Site. Also, for those who want to dig even Deeper, There is a Good Selection of Books and DVDs available for sale from the same Site. I Highly recommend the DVD titled: The Silent Revolution of Truth.

Happy Sailing

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Originally Posted by RaKaR

Quoting Member Utopiated:
"It's the ultimate UFO case in my opinion - it takes months of research to get what's going on not just 5 mins online looking at pretty UFO images and laser guns."

Indeed, it would take several Life Times to explore the Depth and the Extent of the Information being provided by Mr Meier.
I also think that it would be fair to say that only a Person armed with Open Mind and Reason could get to the Bottom of the so-called 'Meier Case'.

I, for one, am rationality and definitely convinced it is the Big One.


Knowledge and Wisdom.

RaKaR
www.futureofmankind.co.uk

Originally Posted by utopiated

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Belief is the wrong term!

You cannot look at the B.E.A.M. case on a true/false basis as old-time U-Fool-Ogy likes to do.

It's the ultimate UFO case in my opinion - it takes months of research to get what's going on not just 5 mins online looking at pretty UFO images and laser guns.

The Meier case contains the prime example of layered, covert and prank-Star[sic] like disinformation and most of all PLAUSIBLE DENIABILITY. These layers have been added by both the human-like ETs and the intelligence agencies.

Anyone who spends time on the case will see how the various agencies [acting from London in the 70s/80s] were far more scared of this case than the likes of Roswell because it was pretty hard to penetrate and due to the quality of the images and video.

Also you can tell the case has merit - The Paracast boys and pseudo "image ANALyst" Jeff Ritzman have been trying to debunk the case for over a year and failed dismally. They now try to not bring it up at all - how can a hoax generate so much tension for 2 decades??

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Originally Posted by Sarahmay

He's got pictures and videos of the crafts. They are extremely high quality, and a farmer in Switzerland would not have the technology in the 1970's to fake them.

But, I don't believe Meier's predictions that were given to him by the Plejarans...they just don't ring true.

So, I believe the pictures are real, but some of the info provided is suspect.

Originally Posted by Anticomuna

I want to believe just like the next guy. But there are many strange things about it. First, why do the aliens communicate only with Billy himself? They shouldn't go around talking with everybody, but at least with the members of the group he has formed they should.

This story wouldn't be controversial if the ETs just showed up for the press and let them know that Billy is legitimate. Why don't they do it?

I don't see why we should "believe" in something like that. Either you know or you don't.

Billy Meier provided more evidence than any other contactee, so if he is false then all others are likely to be even more false. But I just can't accept all the secrecy and self-aggrandizement around it.

I was wondering if Billy's ETs were really Nazis pretending to be ETs.

Originally Posted by Midnight Oil

I believe the case is for real, but it has been colored by the PTB so much that now it is unbelivable for the first time researcher.

Originally Posted by Reuters

Hi Fellow Avalonian's,


I was just wondering how many people here believe the Billy Meier Case >?< Cast your Vote & Posts !

Hi All,

I'm Not Sure If You Guys Noticed But "CHECK OUT THE THREAD / POST NUMBER" ! Coincidence ?

On The Day I Was Going To Make This Thread Something Occurred That Postponed It !



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