[Fredkc]

"some people here on avalon believe that Obama is actually what he says he is..."
Yeah, and
"McCain is a maverick"
and for the entire length of this campaign, the only thing I hear when either one has opened his mouth is:
Clang! Clang! Clang! Clang!
Clang! Clang! Clang! Clang!
Clang! Clang! Clang! Clang!

it was my BS-Meter.
Pulling up direct quotes, before and after statements, facts, voting records, and there has not been a single item that has had a glimmer of an effect on folk on either side of this.

America lost the last grip on its soul and never felt a tug.