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Originally Posted by kasiopeiia
Francie, I understand your pain, I used to be just like you. Look at it this way, we all chose to be where we are, at this time. The people who suffer are suffering because it it their karma. The best thing to do is to be detached, because there's nothing you can do about it, and there's nothing you should do about it. Compassion is good, too much compassion isn't. If it destroys you, then it isn't. ...
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Hello,
WOAAH!
I'm sorry Kasiopiia, but I felt the strongest need within to reply to your post.. and I mean NO harm, conflict or offence with my post to you... but am trying to understand why you have arrived at these beliefs and made these comments.... and to maybe offer you a possible different perspective/spirtual understanding to consider ... as I am , to be honest, quite shocked/astonished by what you have said.
A great many people misunderstand the true essence of the law of Karma, and it often gets thrown around as some kind of "catch-all" explanation/rationalisation/justification for a lot of things which ARE unjust and plain wrong/dark in this world, and which COULD be prevented or helped.
Can I ask you.. how does anybody really know for truth that people on this earth who are suffering (be it through starvation/thirst/war/torture/abuse or whatever else) are in that situation because they somehow 'deserve' it or "chose" it, under the grand scheme of "Karma" ??
With the best intention in the world.. I would like to learn what spiritual beliefs/values you hold.... if you want to share them some more.. so I can try to understand why/how you believe/made the statements you did?
I do find your comments deeply concerning and saddening to be honest. I do believe that there is a natural and spiritual law of cause and effect, and I do believe in an ultimate Divine Justice, and that we are all responsible and need to learn, but perhaps my view of how this system of balance and consequences works is just very different to your view of the natural/Divine/Cosmic laws ?
For me, to believe that people "chose" to come here and suffer, is a personal perception. A personal conjecture, not a statement of fact. My inner feeling is, that even if some souls did/do actively "chose" to come here to suffer, does that still absolve us of any/ALL responsibility to help them?? Maybe, just maybe, they "chose" or perhaps "agreed" to come here and suffer, to provide us the opportunity to learn the way of compassion / connection / grace / humility?? Perhaps they 'agreed' to come here and suffer to provide humanity a service?? I don't know to be honest, but I do know that as long as I have a heart and soul and breath in my lungs, I could not share your views and go along with the there's "nothing you should do about it" view.... sorry but that just feels so so wrong, for me.
Can I ask you.. please.. from a place of love.. to take some time to really think about your words and beliefs... to find your place of inner quiet and peace.. and reflect on your words/beliefs (maybe ask for any Higher guidance if you are comfortable with this?) and check in with your own soul if these statements you have made are things you REALLY believe as true..??
I felt such a wave of sadness inside when I read your words...
"The best thing to do is to be detached, because there's nothing you can do about it, and there's nothing you should do about it." ?
I truly don't wish to enter any level of confilct with you... I just feel deeply uncomfortable with your statements, as they seem a very easy way to absolve all responsiblity we humans have to help and care for eath other... and even in some ways feel like a way of 'blaming' those who suffer.
Quoting simple "Karma", even if from misunderstanding, is a very easy way to just wash your/our hands of any sense of unity/connection/responsiiblity for each other etc. It feels like a rather frighteningly easy and simplistic way to try to justify/excuse the often cruel, selfish, ignorant and dark ways that some humans have behave (and have throughout history).
And I also feel it goes against every spiritual truth about forgiveness.... and non-judgement....
if you personally were faced with a starving 5 year old, or their mother, would you honestly hold to your statements made here and be able look that child/mother in the eye and say.. "You chose to come here. Its your Karma!" ????
Please think about this more deeply... even if you hold the belief of Karma as such a simplistic cut and dried system of 'deserving punishment', surely at the same time a part of you must wonder... no matter what any soul may have/may not have done in their previous incarnations (or even this one), the truth is they ARE in THIS incarnation, and are working through their KARMA, just as we ALL are, every one of us.... and the most deply helpful and powerful thing we can do is to forgive and help each other... not judge them, turn our backs and wash our hands of any responsiblity??
How will your views/actions of other people's Karma affect YOUR Karma in the next lifetime?
Your last sentence: "Compassion is good, too much compassion isn't. If it destroys you, then it isn't."
.... oh my... what can I say here.... except I feel such deep sadness to read this being stated... especailly here on this forum.
Is it even possible to have "too much" compassion? Too much LOVE? Is compassion a commodity/scarce resource, limited or rationed out to only the most deserving or something?? Do you truly feel that too much compassion (love) can "destroy" a person/soul???
I respectfully ask you, to consider for a while, if you've really thought about and felt all your statements/beliefs through? I mean... really taken the time to check... for instance.. check inside yourself if your beliefs make your soul ultimately feel lighter/happier? And what the ultimate consequences of you belief system are/could be??
I humbly ask you to look inside .. and maybe stay open to reconsidering your views ...
Blessings