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Old 10-30-2008, 05:30 PM   #25
ctophil
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Default Re: Ascension=Rapture?

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Originally Posted by Allie View Post
I haven't got a theory as to what might happen. Seems I'm far from alone My modus operandi in all this is to just get my head down, look into myself and do the best I can, where I am at the moment

A friend of mine studied theology and we were recently chatting about the biblical version of the End Times. Interestingly, she told me that in the Gospels, Jesus says that no one will know when they're coming - only God. It's in the same section of the New Testament where Jesus speaks of two people being in the field - one will be taken, the other left; two people being at the press - one will be taken the other left. I looked this up at the time and it's an interesting read which - as my friend suggested - does indicate that we just won't know when it's coming about

Of course, I'm no theological scholar so am more than happy to be corrected by those who know their stuff but a) It seems that perhaps this contradicts some events in Revelations b) if we don't know when it's coming, how would it (and a Rapture) fit into the enigma of 2012? c) - and this is a genuine question to anyone who does accept the word of the bible - why do some religious groups believe the End Times are near, if the Gospels say no one will know?
Hi Allie,

If you read Luke 17, you notice that towards the end, it talks about one being left and the other taken, right? Well, the one taken is actually not a "Saint." It's a wicked person--a person who denies who Yahweh is and have been disobedient his/her entire life. And this will still happen at the end of the tribulation at Yahushua's second coming. Just like in the times of Noah, the wicked will be taken and destroyed. The waters of Noah's time destroyed people. This time, it's pretty much the same thing, minus the waters.

You ask some very good questions. Actually, at the time, no one knew when the coming of Yahushua will be, other than the Father of course. However, in the Book of Daniel, it talks about how in the last days, the mysteries will be unsealed. So yes, some people and Yahushua will know when these things will happen. Again, the rapture that Christians teach is a FALSE doctrine. Don't be deceived. The gospels do talk about how you would know when the end time is near. Matthew 24 is one of them. But the study of the end times get a lot more complicated. You must follow Yahweh all the way to understand prophecy. Another hint is Yahweh's Holy Days. These Sabbath, High Days talk about prophecy of the end times and even after that. You have a clearer understanding of these prophetic events if you observe the High Days and study their significant meaning behind each Sabbatical Day.

-Phillip

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