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Originally Posted by GregorArturo
I keep an open level of discernment with any information, but with this, you also need to take in account the context and ALL of this information that is presented. A very important thing to understand in the material are these three notions from the Hidden hand Material:
1.) The messages of the Sixth Density Soul Group 'Ra' is the most accurate information in your mainstream circulation at this point in time. It is approximately 85-90% accurate, from what I have seen.
2.) Another difficult issue with channeling, is that you can start off recieving a Positive entity, and if you are not very perceptive in your discerment and careful in your protection when identifying an incoming channel, you can get a Negative one that pretends to be positive, but gradually slips in more and more misinformation, having gained your trust. The ones that give you precise dates and times are nearly always ones to avoid. Positive entities will not give a date and time. Negative ones will do, so they can set you up for a fall. Once you're tricked into predicting dates and times, and they don't happen, they've succeeded in putting out the Light of your message, as no one will see any credibility in you.
3.) Hidden Hand's notion throughout the entire piece to NOT believe everything and keep discernment with information as a priority.
I myself have not come across or heard of the Cassiopaean material until the past few weeks in the Avalon forums. I have heard of the Ra material for quite sometime mentioned on and off the internet through many different sources. Reason being, the popularity of the latter is because it resonated more with people as they saw it spoke much more truth [supposedly]. And with that popularity also translate over to what may come to attention to say Hidden Hand, and probably didn't because it didn't resonate as much with his people, if his people even exist. Psychoanalysis is in store to fully understand this writing, not just fact matching, along with most pieces of writing.
And with that notion, according to Hidden Hand, factually and philosophically, THE INFORMATION WILL NOT LINE UP PERFECTLY.
If you look solely within each material, Hidden Hand's and Ra's, and ignoring their relation to any other material (outside factual information), Hidden Hand is more consistent in his facts, well I have discovered several inconsistencies within the work of Ra, as in some of the Ra material contradicts itself. My conclusion is that Hidden Hand is rather accurate in his 85%-90% remark to the material.
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Hi Gregor -- Thanks for your opinion on this material, and the stimulating conversation. No matter where HH is really coming from, it is entirely possible that there is some valid material in his exposition -- if we ever hear from him again, I am open to being surprised and more impressed than I have been so far. For now, here are my two main concerns regarding the points you make above.
First, the three points you list are absolutely valid in terms of being important criteria by which to judge a purported source of information. Assume for the sake of argument that you were someone who wanted to fake this kind of information (for whatever reason -- psy-op, boredom, whatever), and were pretty well-versed in this kind of literature. There are certain key things that you would pick up to tell people that would make you seem credible, such as 'keep what resonates with you', 'it doesn't matter to me if you believe me or not', 'giving specific dates is a sign of a corrupt channel', and so on. These are trust-inspiring because they are either true or indicative that material is being placed before ego, but the key point is that they can also be learned as 'talking points'.
The second is that internal consistency doesn't necessarily indicate reliability -- as a matter of fact, in the event of a hoax, you might expect that the hoaxer would want to get their story straight and be very, even conspicuously consistent. What I am more concerned about is consistency across sources, although I know that its an issue that can get thorny really quickly.
Also, although the average person out there (even in this community) might not have heard about the Cassiopaean material, if what HH says is true, then he is a member of an ultra-high bloodline family with (at least partly) alien genetic material and undoubtedly incredible resources at his disposal -- it just seems unlikely that there wouldn't be a database that he and his family has access to that wouldn't collect exactly this type of information as it appeared, since it is congruent with the paradigm he is working within and presumably a threat to the greater Luciferian agenda.
Just as a point of interest, here are pertinent passages in both the Ra and Cassiopaean material that reference Lucifer. First, from the Ra material:
'Let us illustrate by observing the relative harmony and unchanging quality of existence in one of your, as you call it, primitive tribes. The entities have the concepts of lawful and taboo, but the law is inexorable and all events occur as predestined. There is no concept of right and wrong, good or bad. It is a culture in monochrome. In this context you may see the one you call Lucifer as the true light-bringer in that the knowledge of good and evil both precipitated the mind/body/spirits of this Logos from the Edenic conditions of constant contentment and also provided the impetus to move, to work and to learn.'
This *could* be consistent with the material from HH. Next, from the Cassiopaeans:
'Q: (L) Where did the souls come from that entered into the bodies on the planet earth? Were they in bodies on other planets before they came here?
A: Not this group.
Q: (L) Were they just floating around in the universe somewhere?
A: In union with the One. Have you heard the Super ancient legend of Lucifer, the Fallen Angel?
Q: (L) Who is Lucifer?
A: You. The human race.
Q: (L) Are the souls of individual humans the parts of a larger soul?
A: Yes. Close. The One. All who have fallen must learn “the hard way.”
Q: (L) Are you saying that the act of wanting to experience physical reality is the act of falling?
A: You are members of a fragmented soul unit.'
One more interesting tidbit is that the Cassiopaeans themselves describe the Ra material as 63% accurate (and their own close to 90%).