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Old 10-29-2008, 04:04 PM   #67
GregorArturo
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Default Re: Hidden_Hand a hoax

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Originally Posted by shijing View Post
I think that there are several things about Hidden_Hand's information that indicate that it is hoaxed. Hidden_Hand is obviously familiar with the Ra material, from which he plagiarizes much of his content and upon which he builds -- it is very surprising that he has never heard of the Cassiopaean material, since it generally fits the Ra material hand in glove and is in general more damning of the power elites than the Ra material ever was, and one would expect someone of Hidden_Hand's purported caliber to at least be familiar with this material.

More to the point, I have noted the following inconsistencies with the Ra material just off the top of my head, and there are probably more:

1. Hidden_Hand says that 4th Density is the highest density at which one can maintain an STS polarity, but the Ra material repeatedly describes Carla Rueckert as under the attack of a 5th density STS being in the latter part of the series

2. Hidden-Hand says that the Lucifer social-memory complex originates from Venus, but in the Ra material, it is said that that is Ra's origin. Can both social-memory complexes originate from the same place? Even if that is possible, it is strange that Hidden_Hand didn't clarify since he claims that Lucifer and Ra are 'good friends'.

3. Hidden_Hand says of the Orion group, "They exist within their Group Soul Complex, mostly as a group of discarnate entities, within the Astral Planes of the planets they visit." The Ra material descriptions of the Orion group are at odds with this, indicating that it consists of a majority of 4th density STS in bodily form (including the need to use ships), and a minority of 5th density STS (which Hidden-Hand has claimed does not exist, see 1. above).

4. Hidden_Hand's description of Yahweh as the Earth-logos is completely at odds with both the Ra and the Cassiopaean material, both of which describe Yahweh as a foreign, alien entity (in the Ra material, Yahweh refers to a group of beings -- I would have to double check about that in the Cass material) who interacts with humanity at a mid-point in its history. Yahweh has not been with humanity from the beginning, certainly not in the sense of being the Earth-logos.

These are just some of the more egregious discrepancies. I think that Hidden-Hand's material resonates with some people because there are some core truths mixed in (this is all a game, we are actors in a great drama, etc), but his little speech at the end about how he has grown fond of the posters on ATS, while meant to be endearing, ends up making me embarrassed for him by the transparency of this common emotional ploy. All in all, I think this is a hoax from beginning to end, and was probably not done by anyone of real significance in an insider sense. I am of course interested in everyone else's opinion.
I keep an open level of discernment with any information, but with this, you also need to take in account the context and ALL of this information that is presented. A very important thing to understand in the material are these three notions from the Hidden hand Material:

1.) The messages of the Sixth Density Soul Group 'Ra' is the most accurate information in your mainstream circulation at this point in time. It is approximately 85-90% accurate, from what I have seen.

2.) Another difficult issue with channeling, is that you can start off recieving a Positive entity, and if you are not very perceptive in your discerment and careful in your protection when identifying an incoming channel, you can get a Negative one that pretends to be positive, but gradually slips in more and more misinformation, having gained your trust. The ones that give you precise dates and times are nearly always ones to avoid. Positive entities will not give a date and time. Negative ones will do, so they can set you up for a fall. Once you're tricked into predicting dates and times, and they don't happen, they've succeeded in putting out the Light of your message, as no one will see any credibility in you.

3.) Hidden Hand's notion throughout the entire piece to NOT believe everything and keep discernment with information as a priority.

I myself have not come across or heard of the Cassiopaean material until the past few weeks in the Avalon forums. I have heard of the Ra material for quite sometime mentioned on and off the internet through many different sources. Reason being, the popularity of the latter is because it resonated more with people as they saw it spoke much more truth [supposedly]. And with that popularity also translate over to what may come to attention to say Hidden Hand, and probably didn't because it didn't resonate as much with his people, if his people even exist. Psychoanalysis is in store to fully understand this writing, not just fact matching, along with most pieces of writing.

And with that notion, according to Hidden Hand, factually and philosophically, THE INFORMATION WILL NOT LINE UP PERFECTLY.

If you look solely within each material, Hidden Hand's and Ra's, and ignoring their relation to any other material (outside factual information), Hidden Hand is more consistent in his facts, well I have discovered several inconsistencies within the work of Ra, as in some of the Ra material contradicts itself. My conclusion is that Hidden Hand is rather accurate in his 85%-90% remark to the material.
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