[GregorArturo]

Yeah! I am very glad this discussion is going this way. I wanted to emphasize people to remember the difference between discussion and arguement, and I hope this remains a discussion.

Johnwdoe, I hope you stay in the discussion and keep firm with your beliefs, whatever they may be toward the material at hand. I think for taking a negative position toward the material you have presented your position very effectively, so mad props. Many people we've all probably noticed, have not been able to maintain much civility toward the issue. Because in all honesty, the reason we're dealing with all this BS is because of them. It's hard for anyone to even to begin to consider something like this due to its implication on even the most primitive level of our ego.

Another thing I wanted people to think about was the context of the message, because to me, this is by far the most intriguiging part to the message, as people have focused more on the message at hand and the messenger. The context is definetely the bridge between the two.

Think of the pyschology of the matter. We are dealing with the enemy, directly, for some of us the first time, and maybe the only time ever (IF this is the case). And in that, he is rationalizing his actions in a philosophical sense, which yes, it does make sense in the cosmological scheme of things. Love thy enemy is yes, a good example relating this notion.

Think of how Hidden Hand also presented himself, when he drifted away from his 'job,' and started revealing some of his persona, especially towards the end. Was it part of an act, or is there another subtle clue for us to think about.

This piece is extremely extraordinary in every way shape and form. You can take this and dissect it piece by piece just like one would do with Don McLean's American Pie. It is very intricate in style, presentation, and information.

Throw in some pyschoanalytical skills to look at this piece, along with an emphasis on interpreting literature and historical documents, as we all know we need a healthy level of discernment to understand and weed threw the material. Your intuition is your best friend. If it doesn't resonate with you, then hell, if better not.