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dataeast · 10-26-2008, 03:24 PM

Hi my first post here, greets...

Occult (which is not a dirty word) groups were as such because the prevailing times made secrecy a necessity. The Golden Dawn, and societies like it were structured in a way that in order to "graduate" the initiate had to be able to demonstrate an understanding of previous "chapters," these teachings may have served diametrically opposed ends depending on the initiates position either in the inner or outer order, but necessary in the sense of a linear process.

Aleister Crowley wasn't a satanist per se, only according to Christians since he challenged the religion's principles (purposefully or not). We are talking about Victorian England after all which was a very conservative period--this is the context. He is no different to a rock star today that rebels against the "system." The Christian ideals cast him in that particular light so it is understandable that societies such as the Golden Dawn did not disclose the inner workings of the order--there is nothing sinister about that. It must be remembered that Satanists are Christians too in that they belong to the same idea of God or religion.

From my understanding of the Golden Dawn, who borrowed and modified rituals from various other "secret societies" such as the Freemasons, the movement was towards the bringing about the New Age, that is, a change in human consciousness which encompassed the idea of the Godhead, or illuminated man/woman, hence the eye on the pyramid which can be read symbolically in one interpretation as meaning the synthesis of dual natures (thesis, antithesis, synthesis). So, symbolically reconciling dualism into one unified vision (the eye) which is the higher state of awareness that see's all.

10-26-2008, 03:24 PM	#32
dataeast Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 114	Re: Freemasonry. Hi my first post here, greets... Occult (which is not a dirty word) groups were as such because the prevailing times made secrecy a necessity. The Golden Dawn, and societies like it were structured in a way that in order to "graduate" the initiate had to be able to demonstrate an understanding of previous "chapters," these teachings may have served diametrically opposed ends depending on the initiates position either in the inner or outer order, but necessary in the sense of a linear process. Aleister Crowley wasn't a satanist per se, only according to Christians since he challenged the religion's principles (purposefully or not). We are talking about Victorian England after all which was a very conservative period--this is the context. He is no different to a rock star today that rebels against the "system." The Christian ideals cast him in that particular light so it is understandable that societies such as the Golden Dawn did not disclose the inner workings of the order--there is nothing sinister about that. It must be remembered that Satanists are Christians too in that they belong to the same idea of God or religion. From my understanding of the Golden Dawn, who borrowed and modified rituals from various other "secret societies" such as the Freemasons, the movement was towards the bringing about the New Age, that is, a change in human consciousness which encompassed the idea of the Godhead, or illuminated man/woman, hence the eye on the pyramid which can be read symbolically in one interpretation as meaning the synthesis of dual natures (thesis, antithesis, synthesis). So, symbolically reconciling dualism into one unified vision (the eye) which is the higher state of awareness that see's all.