[Myplanet2]

Cliff said in the Rense interview the other night, that with the issuance of the bailout money, that a sequence has been set in place that can't be stopped, and we're just going to have to ride it out.

George also said in one of his updates on Urbansurvival.com, that it might not be some big catastrophe, but rather that it's likely simply to mark a change which when looked back on in retrospect, will be seen to have set the whole debacle off.

The passing of the bailout seems to fit that bill, and it happened fairly close to the 7th.

They've repeatedly said that they could be off by a day or two in either direction.

If that bailout had been defeated in congress, some big investment casinos would have gone belly up in rather quick succession, but that's the market taking care of business. The losses would have taken place where they belong. The greedy gamblers pocket books. But they've now been paid off for their criminality, and the US tax payers are saddled with debts they can never pay, compounded by the fact that they are starting to realize that fact, and the confidence is shattered, which is the only thing that can buoy the markets. Confidence.

So I'd say somthing has indeed taken place which will change the landscape for good, and will be there to be seen by any and all as the trigger for the global colapse.