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Originally Posted by Moonbaby
It is definitely one or the other. Pure communism for the world would be great, everyone would have what they need to sustain a well balanced life while passing through this world...
Obama thinks that 'redistributing the wealth' will change the world. Unfortunately he is either just naive or worse yet, more corrupt that the current administration. I would like to think he is naive but that is difficult based on this guys past associations (ala Resco.) So if Obama gets in, you can bet your bippy that we are going to get a royal screwing...
While I make less than the threshold that Obama says will get tax increases, companies are going to go offshore to produce...
McCain is the least of the two evils....
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Communism started with the Ludite Christian movement in England. Karl Marx observed it, performed intellectual discourse upon it and formed the Marxist movement. Lenin, Trotsky, and Stalin adopted different forms with varying degrees of fascist violence to create Soviet Russia. China did the same thing. Mao killed ten million people. Stalin killed 25 million people, mainly by starving them to death. Communism is the stratification of goods and services at different social levels. Beaurocrats receive the largest stratification, which is why, under communism, everyone tries to get a government job in order to obtain more goods and services. But all is controlled by some form of highly centralized Politburo, which is always destined to implode upon itself because everybody is crawling over each other to get to the top of the beauracracy, expanding it exponentially. Submit the fall of the USSR as an example.
Socialism is government control of the private sector with loss of personal property rights. The bailout is pure socialist movement. Buying up mortgages by the government is socialist. Buying up CDS is pure socialist. You are allowed to own, but only at the whim of the government in order to shore up the consumer base and productivity. Bailouts and 'wealth redistribution' are socialist instruments. The end result is always equal outcomes, which stifle creativity, productivity, and inspiration to achieve something better. Submit 'Joe the Plumber' as an example. Socialism puts a cap on personal achievement except at the top. Most all countries in the world have a form of socialism called social democracy, one person, one vote, with class stratification to keep their version of Wall Street seperate from the private sector, secured by a parlimentarian form of government to insure that the private sector remains in check. Usually a monarch or two are involved. Submit Great Britian, France, and Germany as prime examples.
Fascism is the division of society into three sections- the principles, the agents, the government. The agents do all the work, the principles receive all the handouts, and the government runs everything. There are elements of social democracy sprinkled within Fascism to give it a friendly face, initially. Eventually, the government aquires more principles than agents and has to feed an ever-expanding handout bubble. This type of governing shares similarities with communism and socialism. It's main feature is an Iron Fist. Cite Nazi Germany and Italy during WW2 as examples.
Social democracy is one person, one vote. Depending on how radical a social democrat is determines how far this type of government descends into any or all the lego pieces of any of the above mentioned types. Social democracy relies heavily on class action, class dispute, ethnic dispute (which it relables as racial dispute), class warefare (caused by graduated taxation) and many other things to basically keep a population riled up and arguing with each other, keeping the people distracted, so that social democrats can create a problem which only they can solve (which is the true nature of all government). Since the bailout, the US has become a true social democracy.
Constitutional Republic is what the US origially started as. Inspiration for the US Constitution can be traced from the Magna Carta, to the Pilgrims compact, to the Articles of Confederacy (forerunner of the US Constitution). In a constitutional republic, there are checks and balances in the form of a triumvirate government- executive, legislative, judicial. A constitutional republic is a representative form of government found in the bipartite legislative branch, which consists of the House of Reps and the Senate. The House makes laws, the Senate debates them. (Did you notice the bailout happened the exact opposite?) Only in the House of Representatives is there a parlimentarian formate. Nowhere else. Only in the House do they decide legislature one person, one vote. They represent their people in a constitutional republic. Sixty years of case law, statuatory law, omnibus law (which is what the bailout is) have marginalized the republican (not the party) base of the US constitution. You hear the talking heads say the US is a nation of laws. In a constitutional republic, the constitution is based upon common law. In a democracy, the constitution is based upon an ever expanding body of case and statuatory law, subject to reclassification and change at any time for any reason.
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