OK let me just jump back because something was said that I HAVE to bring awareness to.
The first patch in the pictures of Zorgon's post... You can see along the top of the inner circle the letters D A R P A.
http://www.darpa.mil/
This is the 'Real Deal' Kerry, and Bill. Look into this, please. Though DARPA claims to have been founded in the late 1950s, it was formed by the DOD(Department of defense, which was formed right around 1947.)
I know this belong in a different thread, but I'm hopping this will piggy back on this threads popularity, also that patch really shook me a bit.
Bill or Kerry, if you contact me personally I will give you more info on source of information.
Please please please I urge you all to take a gander at darpa.mil they are that laboratory that receives 'suggestions' on how to make technological 'break troughs'
-Lythocrist