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Old 10-17-2008, 09:33 PM   #29
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Default Re: Blondes,red heads, blue eyes, MK ULTRA, and the fringe

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Originally Posted by GoingToFast View Post
ClarkKent, I am a redhead with green eyes born in Scandinavia are you telling me that I am a stupid easy-manipulated buffoon ore what, I really donīt get which it is in your post. Also, in your post you are categorizing the Nordic ETīs as "Bad blonds/redheads" on what grounds do you make this assumption.
hmmm, this is a complicated subject because much of this information is from Steward Swerdlow who was a MK ultra mind-controlled subjectee. I've listened to several of his interviews and read his books several years back. As I also recall ther was a genetic blood link and type. For example, these particular subjects have psy abilities which are genetically passed down from one generation to the next and I also recall where the origin of the psy ability is supposedly from ET hybridization thousands of years back. That is if I remember what he wrote correctly. So from a genetic perspective one would examine both lineage and psy abilities.

I've also read the Billy Mier info.. beginning back in the early 90s and when I listened to Miriam's take on her ET experience a few things began to click for me. I don't really know if I trust the Plaidians. And I wonder if it was the Plaidians (the Nordic looking aliens who started the genetic altering). And then there is the whole issue as to their real relationship with the Reptiians and the greys. From what we've been told by a number of credible witnesses the greys and Reptilians work together. And I recently listened to a so-called Palaidian message where it does appear that they may also work with the Reptilians. So..I'm now re-evaluating this whole ET situation from several perspectives.. one as my own ET experience, two from the many reports of those who have been "taken" and three, from those who were invited and have total conscious recall like Alex Collier whom I've also personally spoken with.

When discussing mind-control one has to go back to the ultimate beings/creatures/ETs who have mind-control down to a very fine art. From what I've read regarding MK ultra and the personal testimony of a friend who was being groomed to become one of the higher ups of a Satanic group (which did fracture her personality through horrific child abuse and it was her strong spiritual connection to god which got her through all of that), one type of mind control, on the grossest level is done through early childhood "abusive" conditioning. However, the ETs have methods of mind controlled just with telepathy... while the military has all types of gadgets and drugs they can use.

The whole issue of mind control is exceptionally complex because where does one start?

Does one begin with the ETs? Or does one begin with MK ultra? Does one expand into Religion and the role it played? Or does one focus on the cultural context? Does one look at how the media uses mind control for advertising... ? Or does one start with what Stewart Swedlow had to share from his own personal experience.

I do have some very strong opinions which are newly forming about some of this and I'm of the opinion if I were to choose which ETs to be associated with I'd go with who Dr. Greer is connected up with and/or Alex Collier's ET friends.

And I will share that any ET "race" that blocks memories is a group I would not trust. All of the contactees that I've known personally, or read about, who had positive experiences had total conscious recall and were invited, not taken, if they went aboard a ship. For now, mind-control is my rule of thumb regarding what I do know about ETs. If they use it on humans they're up to no good. That is why Miriam's interview was a bit disturbing to me. I felt she was telling the truth, but that she was holding back other information. I also thought it was the Plaidians whom were her contacts and she did describe not remembering info. That was a red flag for me.
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