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martian31v · 10-16-2008, 04:15 AM

hi all. i have to disagree with richard t on his latest point "you cannot change the system without the individuals changing themselves", especially relative to the zeitgeist position.

you cannot separate the individual from the system, nor the system from the individual. they exist symbiotically. the system emerges from the individual, while the individual evolves from the system. we are all products of the system(s) we create. thus, (we) individuals will/do create systems, which will inevitably change ourselves as individuals. i believe this is the central argument in the zeitgeist addendum, which is sound and valid.

10-16-2008, 04:15 AM	#64
martian31v Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 63	Re: Zeitgeist Adddendum - A Critical Analysis (for the sake of balance) hi all. i have to disagree with richard t on his latest point "you cannot change the system without the individuals changing themselves", especially relative to the zeitgeist position. you cannot separate the individual from the system, nor the system from the individual. they exist symbiotically. the system emerges from the individual, while the individual evolves from the system. we are all products of the system(s) we create. thus, (we) individuals will/do create systems, which will inevitably change ourselves as individuals. i believe this is the central argument in the zeitgeist addendum, which is sound and valid.