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Shakesbeer · 10-12-2008, 06:57 PM

Jaby - Yeah I really hope they didn't mess with the astronauts as much as it sounds like they did. Take into account the possibility of a secret space program already running too and all of them turn into even more courageous of people then we originally thought.

Hoagland at first thought that maybe the visor with the gold filter might have blocked out the view any kind of glass structure while there. But when he researched it he found out that the filter actually increases the blue spectrum which would be primarily where the glass would reside in. It's after that is when he started looking into the astronaut's recall of the moon. He found that Mitchell isn't the only one who has trouble recalling his time on the moon. Even Neil Armstrong doesn't talk about it, or to anyone very much for that matter. Hoagland brought up a quote in the book often that Armstrong said during one of the Apollo 11 anniversaries that was something to the effect of : there are wonders undreamed of [out there] for those who can get past truth's protective layers.

That being said, if that NAlexi video turns out to be true, I wouldn't doubt it. If not, it is a well done video. I guess one way to tell if it's a hoax or not would be to compare the astronaut in the video's suit and see if it's consistent with Buzz Aldrins I would presume if it was Armstrong filming(or vice versa).

Has anyone seen any good research done on that video Jaby linked?

Patti - yeah it sucks if it's true. But you hear the stories about MK Ultra & the research they did and it seems highly plausible they could have muddied up their memories during debriefing.

Chinderland - It sounds like they did in fact have a fake moon landing production at different times for various reasons. I guess some of the astronauts themselves recreated part of their moon landing for a book or something. Hoagland also talks about how the execs from JPL started the rumor about the landing hoax the day the landing happened at the press center at NASA.

Either way, I can't imagine why they would put a glass structure on faked version of a moon landing especially if the goal of such a campaign is disinformation & that's exactly where research has been pointing. Why would they help the cause out like that? It just doesn't make sense unless someone is trying to prove that the entire story is disinformation. Fine some one can claim that, but either way there's some serious "geological anomalies" on the moon & mars that warrant true scientific investigation with a completely transparent and public information pipeline.

Ant0ni081 - Thanks a lot, I'm hoping others will download the images and do this themselves too. "Disclosure" is about the global consciousness making this stuff "real", so the more people who have first hand knowledge in these subject, the closer we all get.

As far as the head goes...here ya go!

Here's the notorious AS17-137-20997 AKA Shorty crater, aka Data's head, aka C3PO's head. This image was really hard to work with. I would love to come in contact with a higher resolution version that I am working with(2340x2364 @ 300ppi can't remember where I dl'ed it from though). I still was able to get a good amount of detail out of the image I think.

Here's a low resolution version of the original downloadable version:

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If you're wondering where the head is, it's just to the bottom right of the reticle.

Here's a closer crop of the head area:

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You can see the object in question right in the center now.

Here's a detail shot of the face with slight level adjustment:

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The pixel compression is really factor when dealing with this image. After this version I started using a slight gaussian blur to help filter out the interference pattern and maybe help distinguish detail of the object versus the background/noise.

Here's a detail shot of the face with the curves & brightness adjusted:

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In this shot you can see a bit of the red lip that Hoagland illustrates in the book with with Color Fig. 28 in the book.

For the hell of it, I embossed the last image too to see what I got:

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Kind of interesting...

Here's a better look at the red lip using the color channels to enhance the detail:

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It was hard to pull up that much information on the red lip as Hoagland put it. Maybe with a higher resolution image as the object is fairly small in the field of view it would allow for sharper magnification and more color info in general.

Either way that's the head!

AS12-46-6826 is still pretty mind boggling to me. It looks like there is some kind of angle change on that image too. It sort of looks like there is a 30 degree slant away from the camera with the "structure" being a flat topped building.

10-12-2008, 06:57 PM	#8
Shakesbeer Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: socal Posts: 114	Re: Independant Recreation of Hoagland's work: +1 more Moon Anomaly Jaby - Yeah I really hope they didn't mess with the astronauts as much as it sounds like they did. Take into account the possibility of a secret space program already running too and all of them turn into even more courageous of people then we originally thought. Hoagland at first thought that maybe the visor with the gold filter might have blocked out the view any kind of glass structure while there. But when he researched it he found out that the filter actually increases the blue spectrum which would be primarily where the glass would reside in. It's after that is when he started looking into the astronaut's recall of the moon. He found that Mitchell isn't the only one who has trouble recalling his time on the moon. Even Neil Armstrong doesn't talk about it, or to anyone very much for that matter. Hoagland brought up a quote in the book often that Armstrong said during one of the Apollo 11 anniversaries that was something to the effect of : there are wonders undreamed of [out there] for those who can get past truth's protective layers. That being said, if that NAlexi video turns out to be true, I wouldn't doubt it. If not, it is a well done video. I guess one way to tell if it's a hoax or not would be to compare the astronaut in the video's suit and see if it's consistent with Buzz Aldrins I would presume if it was Armstrong filming(or vice versa). Has anyone seen any good research done on that video Jaby linked? Patti - yeah it sucks if it's true. But you hear the stories about MK Ultra & the research they did and it seems highly plausible they could have muddied up their memories during debriefing. Chinderland - It sounds like they did in fact have a fake moon landing production at different times for various reasons. I guess some of the astronauts themselves recreated part of their moon landing for a book or something. Hoagland also talks about how the execs from JPL started the rumor about the landing hoax the day the landing happened at the press center at NASA. Either way, I can't imagine why they would put a glass structure on faked version of a moon landing especially if the goal of such a campaign is disinformation & that's exactly where research has been pointing. Why would they help the cause out like that? It just doesn't make sense unless someone is trying to prove that the entire story is disinformation. Fine some one can claim that, but either way there's some serious "geological anomalies" on the moon & mars that warrant true scientific investigation with a completely transparent and public information pipeline. Ant0ni081 - Thanks a lot, I'm hoping others will download the images and do this themselves too. "Disclosure" is about the global consciousness making this stuff "real", so the more people who have first hand knowledge in these subject, the closer we all get. As far as the head goes...here ya go! Here's the notorious AS17-137-20997 AKA Shorty crater, aka Data's head, aka C3PO's head. This image was really hard to work with. I would love to come in contact with a higher resolution version that I am working with(2340x2364 @ 300ppi can't remember where I dl'ed it from though). I still was able to get a good amount of detail out of the image I think. Here's a low resolution version of the original downloadable version: ________________ If you're wondering where the head is, it's just to the bottom right of the reticle. Here's a closer crop of the head area: ________________ You can see the object in question right in the center now. Here's a detail shot of the face with slight level adjustment: _______________ The pixel compression is really factor when dealing with this image. After this version I started using a slight gaussian blur to help filter out the interference pattern and maybe help distinguish detail of the object versus the background/noise. Here's a detail shot of the face with the curves & brightness adjusted: ________________ In this shot you can see a bit of the red lip that Hoagland illustrates in the book with with Color Fig. 28 in the book. For the hell of it, I embossed the last image too to see what I got: ________________ Kind of interesting... Here's a better look at the red lip using the color channels to enhance the detail: _______________ It was hard to pull up that much information on the red lip as Hoagland put it. Maybe with a higher resolution image as the object is fairly small in the field of view it would allow for sharper magnification and more color info in general. Either way that's the head! AS12-46-6826 is still pretty mind boggling to me. It looks like there is some kind of angle change on that image too. It sort of looks like there is a 30 degree slant away from the camera with the "structure" being a flat topped building.