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Old 10-11-2008, 01:39 PM   #17
raulduke
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Default Re: Zeitgeist Adddendum - A Critical Analysis (for the sake of balance)

Hi guys. I'm back after a brief rest. I could not sleep w/ this wieghing on my mind.

nivosh,
I was planning on addressing you point by point, but I realised that this would only serve to further muddy the waters.
Instead I would like to address the two most imortant points (IMO) of your post that can be found in the quotes below.

1.
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Originally Posted by nivosh View Post
WE NEED A TOTAL CHANGE OF THE SYSTEM, NOT JUST A FIX OF THE OLD ONE!
Agreed. But rest assured that the PTB will not simply step aside because we all want them to. It seems to me that Zietgiest Addendum dances around the notion (w/o ever addressing it) that in order for their utopia to exist: something very huge has to rock society so hard, as to deconstruct it completely. And then we could begin building this utopia.

Well trust me, the PTB are banking (no pun intended) on this something going their way and remaining on top in the wake of its aftremath.
I want a utopia too, but wanting one will not help. We must operate in their system (reality) in order to bring it down.


2.
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Originally Posted by nivosh View Post
We do not have a free will!
This confuses me. Without free will, how can you expect to change the system?

Free will, I suppose, is a subjective term. You can educate yourself to the best of your abilty in order to make a decision. By the same token you can (regarding the same decision) rely on nothing but how you feel. Or you can combine the two and then decide. This is free will to me.

A selfless act is beautiful, in part, because it not forced. The option to do nothing or even to do evil is present.

We do have free will. It can be hi-jacked, but only so long as we remain ignorant.
If you belive that we do not have free will, then all is lost.

Sincerely, nivosh, I am interested to hear you clarify your opinions on these subjects, if you do not mind.


peace.

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