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NOWIAM · 10-11-2008, 12:39 PM

This video was VERY compelling. But I would contend with a couple of issues in it and also make a comment if I may.

1. Although a “resourced based economy” sounds promising, “technology” would not be the only valuable commodity that humans wield. We must be careful in limiting personal or social value to only materialistic things. There are other potentially shared values which can be realized. Of course I realize the problems that have arisen in history with non-tangible based “values” which reside beyond scientific observation and consensus. But what I am speaking about is not beyond social sciences and certainly not limited to mere beLIEf.

2. I don’t agree that religions only value is in “emotional” solace for its believers. However, I should state that I feel the core of the Zeitgeist argument is against the institutionalization of spirituality, which is “religion”. And they have clearly demonstrated in both of their videos major problems with religious “beLIEf” systems. So, let me just say there are indeed practitioners of religions and others forms of non-institutionalized spirituality who EXPERIENTIALLY recognize numerous values beyond mere “emotional” appeasement.

3. Economics isn’t my strong point so I’m curious. Since the “power elite” can create “fiat” money (money created out of thin air backed by no substance), why couldn’t they just one day increase the value of gold (etc) to be equal with their paper (or digital) money?

10-11-2008, 12:39 PM	#20
NOWIAM Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 41	Re: Zeitgeist Adddendum - A Critical Analysis (for the sake of balance) This video was VERY compelling. But I would contend with a couple of issues in it and also make a comment if I may. 1. Although a “resourced based economy” sounds promising, “technology” would not be the only valuable commodity that humans wield. We must be careful in limiting personal or social value to only materialistic things. There are other potentially shared values which can be realized. Of course I realize the problems that have arisen in history with non-tangible based “values” which reside beyond scientific observation and consensus. But what I am speaking about is not beyond social sciences and certainly not limited to mere beLIEf. 2. I don’t agree that religions only value is in “emotional” solace for its believers. However, I should state that I feel the core of the Zeitgeist argument is against the institutionalization of spirituality, which is “religion”. And they have clearly demonstrated in both of their videos major problems with religious “beLIEf” systems. So, let me just say there are indeed practitioners of religions and others forms of non-institutionalized spirituality who EXPERIENTIALLY recognize numerous values beyond mere “emotional” appeasement. 3. Economics isn’t my strong point so I’m curious. Since the “power elite” can create “fiat” money (money created out of thin air backed by no substance), why couldn’t they just one day increase the value of gold (etc) to be equal with their paper (or digital) money?