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RaKaR · 10-08-2008, 02:21 PM

I completely agree with your view, Kameraden.

I have to say that the reactions coming in as well as the general mood on this Forum, are for me a Steady Source of Hope and Inspiration.
We are indeed Co-creators; we can change ourselves and the World, for, once again, the Reality is but what we choose, decide, think and do/or refrain from doing.
What is once done, could also be undone.

Allow me to tell you about my views of the World and the evolution they have lately been subject to.

I have always felt that there is something fundamentaly wrong with the World and our Attitude towards one another, ourselves and Mother Nature.
I just could not put the finger on it.
The information i have gathered(through my own readings, the official media and more recently here at camelot/Avalon, the latest being the revelation/exposure from Mr Benjamin Fulford - Interview, 6 Sept. 2008.) had made me somehow bitter.
In relation to the information from Mr Fulford, i just could not imagine that Humans, People just like you, me and all the others, could quietly sit and mastermind wars, intrigues of such scale and gravity; take steps which would effect the lives and well being of millions and the entire planet, for that matter, while we go about our daily business and nothing seems to be done to stop that.
Here is my reaction on the thread dedicated to this matter:

"Thanks for your insights and for sharing my view - and indignation!
Those are Heartbreaking revelations, indeed!
If at least 1% of these disclosures/exposures has any ground, then these politicians should be held accountable and judged for crime against their own People and Humanity at large. Period!
I mean, what are the ordinary, righteous, hardworking and reasonable American Citizens doing? How could they let their country be hijacked in such a way and dragged in all sort of sordid conspiracies?!Does the Senate, or the Congress know about such things?The mean media?Those people have to be stopped!
I would like, however, to put my post into some context and clarify a couple of points, in order to make any further discussion on this issue somehow productive.
Some might say that i singled out the USA.
I acknowledge that also other countries are involved in such machinations(see Mr Benjamin fulford ), but i focused on the USA here, for the presented document goes mainly about the responsibility and implication of elected officials and others from that country.
Secondly i put a rather heavy accent on the USA for what they are on this Planet, that is, the first world power with unmatched weight and influence in the international arena and on the state of global affairs.
My stance is that the USA, because of their economic, political, financial and military power should also bear some sound Moral Responsibilty and display Ethical Leadership in the ways they operate - instead of justifying and carrying out their major international activities with the motto of "protecting their INTERESTS", they could as well pursue the defense and promotion of the, objectively, JUST, RIGHTEOUS and BENEFICIAL TO ALL.
For there is nothing so unjust, subjective and narrow as 'own interests' at this stage.
They should show and embody the example that would be followed, an attitude that positively inspires others; for the bigger, the stronger, you are, the heavier your responsibility also.
There are certainly some objective( indifferent to our limited, subjective wishes) factors - as the Laws of Creation Itself - to be taken into consideration, but the reality, the world we live in and the current state of things are what we ourselves created; they are but the results of our thoughts, choices, decisions and deeds.
What is created by us, Humans, can also be removed, changed, adjusted by us. In all necessity.
Once we realize that we are on the wrong course, we all have the obligation to work to improve things.
Such effort begins by and within each individual, certainly, but i remain also convinced that some Enlightened Leadership from a country with such a big influence as the USA, would help and accelerate the process - it might as well be just enough if the USA do not thwart the whole thing.
And finally, I specially wondered about Americans and their, in my eyes, passivity in the face of the conduct of their country, because they have the privileged position of being Citizens of the First Democracy of our World and this fact, it seems to me, casts a special responsibility on them. For they freely choose those who lead the leading country of the world and they have the legal tools to controle and hold their politicians accountable.
American Citizens could also set the Example to follow, inspire others into standing up and taking their Destiny, their Future in their Own Hands.
This is at least the way i see things.
overpolulation is in my view a relative concept:
The number of Human Beings currently of Earth could be seen as a state of overpopulation in the specific context of the current mode of production - of should i rather say, 'exploitation' of this Planet and its resources - that is, this wild, agressive Capitalism driven by greed alone.
Were the goods, other life sustaining commodities, the product we ourselves produce or gain directly from Earth, our aims in this existence spiritually more elevated(instead of the sole accumulation of money and material items), there would be no question of overpopulation; for Mother-Earth is able and willing to take care of her Children - and does still do so.
But in the current structure, our number puts lots of stress of Earth and its resources, for everyone wants still more and more and, as we all know, there are no limits to the 'accumulation fever' and greed has by definition no boundaries.
Besides, Humans are not the only inhabitants of this Planet.
There are other Life Forms having the same rights to be and to develop, Life Forms, which are dear to Earth as well as we do: Flora, Fauna.
We are building factories and other human production facilities on lands, that should normally be reserved to agriculture; destroying forests, polluting water and air...
Flora and Fauna are being persecuted by us; i read recently in a scientific paper(i do not recall the name) that honey bees are disappearing in horrifying huge numbers and sorts(and we all know the great role they play for the balance of our eco-system); the ice is dramatically melting(due in part to human irresponsible activities, like atomic and nuclear weapons tests onderground and in the atmosphere!!!)...
A couple of months ago, two ice-bears swam the whole way to the west coast(fjords) of Iceland, hungry and in despair, for there is no more ice they could live on.
They were shot down.

So, friends, we bear a lot of guilt here.
Let's try to make amend for some of it."

I was hence only casting blame left and right.

Regarding the visions of Dr. Bill Deagle and the subsequent financial turmoil, i wrote the following:

"The system seems to be melting by the hour.
Yes, it might be painful and challenging; it might bring uncertainty and despair.
But this would just last for a while, one lifetime at best - and what is a single life time in front of the Eternity each of us is, carries and embodies?!
And then again, what does this 'dying' system mean to us? - is it that dear to us?
Are we part of it? Do we really want it to be and to continue to operate the way we know it does - and would?
Are we for exploitation and enslavement; for the lost of all sense of measure and righteousness?
For the silence of all Values and Principles?
For greed and indifference?
For the methodic destruction of Mother Earth?
For our total Spiritual sinking?

Certainly not.
"Let the Deads bury their Deads!"
We bear the Future. We are The Future!

One way or another, i certainly won't be mourning the death of the BEAST.

Wild Capitalism is in big trouble, so what?! - or, to speak with the words of the honorable member Steve_A:'Bill Deagle'!!!(Big deal!)

Cheer up and let's build The Future! - let's Carry the Bill!(Kerry and Bill)."

Pretty mixed , isn't?!

Then i saw 'Zeitgeist: Addendum' and everything literally changed.
I now feel only some caring pity even for those who, in my view, brought us in this tragic situation.
I have understood that we all share some degree of responsibility and i am ready to assume mine.
I am not running head on into some 'utopia'. 'Zeitgeist' did just wide open a window which has always been half closed within myself.
I have done a lot of thinking.
I live a life one could call average satisfactory - i have a degree in Philosophy and i am currently a third year law student; i am fluent in French, Russian, Dutch and German - i just feel that something fundamental is missing in all this.
I am now planning to know more about agriculture.

The times ahead are truly exceptional.
There might be some sufferings. Fear, despair and uncertainty hang in the air.
I do know something for sure though, and that is, that We ultimately create our own Destiny, for our True Essence is stronger, finer than the possible mere temporal and physical transformations. Our Astral Self is Infinite.

I am looking forward to the Future i will consciously, actively and by virtue of choice be part of.

Regards,

RaKaR
www.futureofmankind.co.uk

10-08-2008, 02:21 PM	#20
RaKaR Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 285	Re: What we are supposed to do I completely agree with your view, Kameraden. I have to say that the reactions coming in as well as the general mood on this Forum, are for me a Steady Source of Hope and Inspiration. We are indeed Co-creators; we can change ourselves and the World, for, once again, the Reality is but what we choose, decide, think and do/or refrain from doing. What is once done, could also be undone. Allow me to tell you about my views of the World and the evolution they have lately been subject to. I have always felt that there is something fundamentaly wrong with the World and our Attitude towards one another, ourselves and Mother Nature. I just could not put the finger on it. The information i have gathered(through my own readings, the official media and more recently here at camelot/Avalon, the latest being the revelation/exposure from Mr Benjamin Fulford - Interview, 6 Sept. 2008.) had made me somehow bitter. In relation to the information from Mr Fulford, i just could not imagine that Humans, People just like you, me and all the others, could quietly sit and mastermind wars, intrigues of such scale and gravity; take steps which would effect the lives and well being of millions and the entire planet, for that matter, while we go about our daily business and nothing seems to be done to stop that. Here is my reaction on the thread dedicated to this matter: "Thanks for your insights and for sharing my view - and indignation! Those are Heartbreaking revelations, indeed! If at least 1% of these disclosures/exposures has any ground, then these politicians should be held accountable and judged for crime against their own People and Humanity at large. Period! I mean, what are the ordinary, righteous, hardworking and reasonable American Citizens doing? How could they let their country be hijacked in such a way and dragged in all sort of sordid conspiracies?!Does the Senate, or the Congress know about such things?The mean media?Those people have to be stopped! I would like, however, to put my post into some context and clarify a couple of points, in order to make any further discussion on this issue somehow productive. Some might say that i singled out the USA. I acknowledge that also other countries are involved in such machinations(see Mr Benjamin fulford ), but i focused on the USA here, for the presented document goes mainly about the responsibility and implication of elected officials and others from that country. Secondly i put a rather heavy accent on the USA for what they are on this Planet, that is, the first world power with unmatched weight and influence in the international arena and on the state of global affairs. My stance is that the USA, because of their economic, political, financial and military power should also bear some sound Moral Responsibilty and display Ethical Leadership in the ways they operate - instead of justifying and carrying out their major international activities with the motto of "protecting their INTERESTS", they could as well pursue the defense and promotion of the, objectively, JUST, RIGHTEOUS and BENEFICIAL TO ALL. For there is nothing so unjust, subjective and narrow as 'own interests' at this stage. They should show and embody the example that would be followed, an attitude that positively inspires others; for the bigger, the stronger, you are, the heavier your responsibility also. There are certainly some objective( indifferent to our limited, subjective wishes) factors - as the Laws of Creation Itself - to be taken into consideration, but the reality, the world we live in and the current state of things are what we ourselves created; they are but the results of our thoughts, choices, decisions and deeds. What is created by us, Humans, can also be removed, changed, adjusted by us. In all necessity. Once we realize that we are on the wrong course, we all have the obligation to work to improve things. Such effort begins by and within each individual, certainly, but i remain also convinced that some Enlightened Leadership from a country with such a big influence as the USA, would help and accelerate the process - it might as well be just enough if the USA do not thwart the whole thing. And finally, I specially wondered about Americans and their, in my eyes, passivity in the face of the conduct of their country, because they have the privileged position of being Citizens of the First Democracy of our World and this fact, it seems to me, casts a special responsibility on them. For they freely choose those who lead the leading country of the world and they have the legal tools to controle and hold their politicians accountable. American Citizens could also set the Example to follow, inspire others into standing up and taking their Destiny, their Future in their Own Hands. This is at least the way i see things. overpolulation is in my view a relative concept: The number of Human Beings currently of Earth could be seen as a state of overpopulation in the specific context of the current mode of production - of should i rather say, 'exploitation' of this Planet and its resources - that is, this wild, agressive Capitalism driven by greed alone. Were the goods, other life sustaining commodities, the product we ourselves produce or gain directly from Earth, our aims in this existence spiritually more elevated(instead of the sole accumulation of money and material items), there would be no question of overpopulation; for Mother-Earth is able and willing to take care of her Children - and does still do so. But in the current structure, our number puts lots of stress of Earth and its resources, for everyone wants still more and more and, as we all know, there are no limits to the 'accumulation fever' and greed has by definition no boundaries. Besides, Humans are not the only inhabitants of this Planet. There are other Life Forms having the same rights to be and to develop, Life Forms, which are dear to Earth as well as we do: Flora, Fauna. We are building factories and other human production facilities on lands, that should normally be reserved to agriculture; destroying forests, polluting water and air... Flora and Fauna are being persecuted by us; i read recently in a scientific paper(i do not recall the name) that honey bees are disappearing in horrifying huge numbers and sorts(and we all know the great role they play for the balance of our eco-system); the ice is dramatically melting(due in part to human irresponsible activities, like atomic and nuclear weapons tests onderground and in the atmosphere!!!)... A couple of months ago, two ice-bears swam the whole way to the west coast(fjords) of Iceland, hungry and in despair, for there is no more ice they could live on. They were shot down. So, friends, we bear a lot of guilt here. Let's try to make amend for some of it." I was hence only casting blame left and right. Regarding the visions of Dr. Bill Deagle and the subsequent financial turmoil, i wrote the following: "The system seems to be melting by the hour. Yes, it might be painful and challenging; it might bring uncertainty and despair. But this would just last for a while, one lifetime at best - and what is a single life time in front of the Eternity each of us is, carries and embodies?! And then again, what does this 'dying' system mean to us? - is it that dear to us? Are we part of it? Do we really want it to be and to continue to operate the way we know it does - and would? Are we for exploitation and enslavement; for the lost of all sense of measure and righteousness? For the silence of all Values and Principles? For greed and indifference? For the methodic destruction of Mother Earth? For our total Spiritual sinking? Certainly not. "Let the Deads bury their Deads!" We bear the Future. We are The Future! One way or another, i certainly won't be mourning the death of the BEAST. Wild Capitalism is in big trouble, so what?! - or, to speak with the words of the honorable member Steve_A:'Bill Deagle'!!!(Big deal!) Cheer up and let's build The Future! - let's Carry the Bill!(Kerry and Bill)." Pretty mixed , isn't?! Then i saw 'Zeitgeist: Addendum' and everything literally changed. I now feel only some caring pity even for those who, in my view, brought us in this tragic situation. I have understood that we all share some degree of responsibility and i am ready to assume mine. I am not running head on into some 'utopia'. 'Zeitgeist' did just wide open a window which has always been half closed within myself. I have done a lot of thinking. I live a life one could call average satisfactory - i have a degree in Philosophy and i am currently a third year law student; i am fluent in French, Russian, Dutch and German - i just feel that something fundamental is missing in all this. I am now planning to know more about agriculture. The times ahead are truly exceptional. There might be some sufferings. Fear, despair and uncertainty hang in the air. I do know something for sure though, and that is, that We ultimately create our own Destiny, for our True Essence is stronger, finer than the possible mere temporal and physical transformations. Our Astral Self is Infinite. I am looking forward to the Future i will consciously, actively and by virtue of choice be part of. Regards, RaKaR www.futureofmankind.co.uk Last edited by RaKaR; 10-08-2008 at 06:54 PM. Reason: Additional thoughts